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Old 04-07-2010, 07:10 AM   #1
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Stress Test Temperature

E3200 3.4ghz @ 1.41v using cheap ass heatsink

too high? what's the temp limit of a 45nm cpu?

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You might want to get a new heatsink
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:38 AM   #3
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CPU tempeature > core 0 & 1? which one should I look at?
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use programs like realtemps and prime 95 and see what the temps are at
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use prime 95 to burn the cpu, and i think anything over 60 is considered hot for a cpu?
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You might want to get a new heatsink
Or just clear the dust out of it. My C2D was running at 50c nominal, then I cleaned out a year's worth of dust, and re-applied thermal paste. Now, it runs about 20c cooler. OEM heatsink/fan.
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You should get another monitoring program. CPU, Core1, and Core2 should be about the same, They are not. There may be an explanation, but you need to find out what is actual. A difference of 21C is too much to make a comment on. 71C is too hot. 50C is OK. Also 12V should not be 5.97V.

Your system temperatures are also too high, so you need more case fans, or take the side off. System temperatures should be a bit over room temperature, like 30C. Your HDs will like it cooler as well.

Running your CPU at around 60C (full load) should be a maximum limit. This is a personal preference.
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You should get another monitoring program. CPU, Core1, and Core2 should be about the same, They are not. There may be an explanation, but you need to find out what is actual. A difference of 21C is too much to make a comment on. 71C is too hot. 50C is OK. Also 12V should not be 5.97V.

Your system temperatures are also too high, so you need more case fans, or take the side off. System temperatures should be a bit over room temperature, like 30C. Your HDs will like it cooler as well.

Running your CPU at around 60C (full load) should be a maximum limit. This is a personal preference.
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I mgiht as well seek advice in this thread as well.

Intel Pentium 4 3 GHz, using Windows XP Pro (Mac re-skin before anyone asks).
Computer was given to me for free, so I'm unsure of the heatsinks being used. ATi Radeon graphics card is also non-functioning/fried, it's running off the mobo graphics driver as far as my computer knowledge goes (moved monitor input to another plug, and it worked again, but a game like CS is unplayable now).

I downloaded that SpeedFan program as well and got these stats.


I already pulled a panel to try and vent the heat on the CPU, but can anyone direct me to a simple solution to cooling it down to those "safe" parameters someone posted?
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simple tasks to do r:
clean out all dusts in case and headsink
reapply thermal paste
make sure case has good air flow, if the case has good air flow, it should work better than having a panel off.
make sure psu fan is clean and not clog with dust as most psu that sits above the cpu heatsink can draw the heat given off by the cpu and blow it out the case.

if all else fails, get some case fans that r quiet and can push alot of air, if i remember right it's the ###CFM rating. the high the number the more air it can push. oh and clean up ur wires inside the case, if u have wires all over the case it can block air flow even if u have proper fans blowing in and out.
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71c is too high for a idle temp. Get a better heat sink it'll help you drop the temp a lot better and make sure you apply those thermal paste. Best effective way to apply them is draw a "X" shape on top of the cpu before you apply the heat sink.

As for CorneringArtist, check if your heatsink is mounted properly, your temp should be around 42c ish for that cpu on idle. Also see if you both can boot into bios and check the temp reading there.
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^ it's 71c 100% load
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I mgiht as well seek advice in this thread as well.

Intel Pentium 4 3 GHz, using Windows XP Pro (Mac re-skin before anyone asks).
Computer was given to me for free, so I'm unsure of the heatsinks being used. ATi Radeon graphics card is also non-functioning/fried, it's running off the mobo graphics driver as far as my computer knowledge goes (moved monitor input to another plug, and it worked again, but a game like CS is unplayable now).

I downloaded that SpeedFan program as well and got these stats.


I already pulled a panel to try and vent the heat on the CPU, but can anyone direct me to a simple solution to cooling it down to those "safe" parameters someone posted?
That temp (60'C) is actually quite normal for the older Prescott P4...
The newer CPUs on the other hand shouldn't exceed 50'C with adequate cooling

And there shouldn't be any performance or stability issue for CPU running under 85'C...it's just that higher temp shorten the lifespan of the processor (from like from 10 years to 8 years)

And the best way to lower your temp w/o replacing the heatsink is probably to put a 80-120mm fan blowing directly over the original heatsink + fan
This usually works on most cases & heatsink -> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...9985&vpn=FB123
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Best effective way to apply them is draw a "X" shape on top of the cpu before you apply the heat sink.
No, cover the whole thing in a very thin, even layer.
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No, cover the whole thing in a very thin, even layer.
each person has their own way of applying thermal paste, best is to follow the thermal paste manufacture's recommendation. if i remember right, arctic silver's recommendation for a c2d was a thin strip across the die, and just lay the heatsink on, which will spread the paste evenly, no need to get messy spreading it urself.
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the thing is, I've pulled off a lot of sinks and seen that the only true way to get it all covered and not risk frying things is to cover it all yourself.
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oops my bad i didnt see the 100% usage bar. 71c should be fine then at 100% load.

Underscore those way of apply thermal compound is old school and it doesn't work that well anymore on today cpu due to having 2 cores and 4 cores. covering the whole thing can lead to air bubbles between the cpu and heatsink. what you want do do is let the heatsink do the spreading for you when you apply pressure to install the heatsink. I've done a lot of cpu installation and trust me the X method provide the best coverage and cooling. The video below show different way to apply the compound. check it out =)

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I'm not sure what this guy is talking about in his description - you need to cover the entire surface to properly dissipate heat. that said, your X method would be a hell of a lot better than a dot/circle or line.
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I never know the spread method will create that much bubble.
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I use my Save-On More card to spread the paste. It takes some practice but I can get it to cover the entire CPU on a very thin even layer.
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