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RCMP bring 'big' guns back into service on Parliament Hill

http://news.sympatico.ctv.ca/home/co...es_guns_100407

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RCMP bring big guns back into service on Parliament Hill

07/04/2010 11:00:37 AM
CTV.ca News Staff

The RCMP will give its Parliament Hill detachment officers some extra firepower, after deciding to bring previously purchased submachine guns back into service.

RCMP Sgt. Greg Cox confirmed to CTV.ca that the Mounties intend to bring their Heckler & Koch MP5 submachine guns back into service as "secondary weapons," pending weapons training for officers. He said the RCMP must also decide on how to store the weapons securely, while also ensuring that they are accessible to officers.

The submachine guns will also be assigned to RCMP staff tasked with guarding embassies and consulates across Canada, Cox said in a telephone interview. They will replace the shotguns currently assigned to these officers as secondary weapons, he said.

Cox said the decision to reintroduce the MP5s was made last year.

He said the submachine guns had been "phased out of service and stored" since 1996, when the RCMP began using 9-mm semi-automatic pistols as their primary weapons.

Prior to being put in storage, the Mounties had been using the MP5 submachine guns since they were first purchased by the national police force in the mid-1980s.

According to the Heckler & Koch website, the MP5 was developed in the mid-1960s and is considered "the world's pre-eminent submachine gun among military and law enforcement users."

The acknowledgement that the RCMP will be beefing up its weaponry on Parliament Hill comes months after an embarrassing security breach that saw protesters scale two parliamentary buildings during a December demonstration.

The protesters also managed to drape banners from the West Block building, while police and firefighters worked to remove them from the property.

Contrary to probably every FPS out there, the RCMP considers 9mm pistols as primary weapons, and MP5's and shotguns as secondary weapons :p

this is when i can say, only in canada.

finally they are pressing "1" instead of "2"

I guess the RCMP needs to do more
b31b6b82
at the beginning of the round

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 6896353)

finally they are pressing "1" instead of "2"

I guess the RCMP needs to do more
b31b6b82
at the beginning of the round

LOL

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 6896353)

finally they are pressing "1" instead of "2"

I guess the RCMP needs to do more
b31b6b82
at the beginning of the round

b83 works and dont forget to ,,,

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 6896353)

finally they are pressing "1" instead of "2"

I guess the RCMP needs to do more
b31b6b82
at the beginning of the round

Hahaha, you nerd. :haha:

Don't forget b86, you'll thank yourself when there's only 5 seconds left to diffuse

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 6896353)

finally they are pressing "1" instead of "2"

I guess the RCMP needs to do more
b31b6b82
at the beginning of the round

The fact I know what you're talking is kind of sad....

F M L

LOL

I think we all know what that means lol

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Originally Posted by Cman333 (Post 6896680)

The fact I know what you're talking is kind of sad....

F M L

LOL

lol was thinking the exact same thing.

b43 ftw.

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The acknowledgement that the RCMP will be beefing up its weaponry on Parliament Hill comes months after an embarrassing security breach that saw protesters scale two parliamentary buildings during a December demonstration.

LOL, either this article is retarded or the government is. Maybe both!

How would having MP5s have solved that, how could these stories be related at all? lol

wth is b32823b38239813nb34b34234v??

http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/w...2/mp5-blog.jpg
don't see why they would need these but whatever; isn't that what the ERT is for?

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Originally Posted by Nightwalker (Post 6896961)

LOL, either this article is retarded or the government is. Maybe both!

How would having MP5s have solved that, how could these stories be related at all? lol

rofl yeah that is pretty retarded

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 6896965)

wth is b32823b38239813nb34b34234v??

http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/w...2/mp5-blog.jpg
don't see why they would need these but whatever isn't that what "swat" is for?

rofl yeah that is pretty retarded

you could be the uk and not use weapons at all. Welcoming change IMO.

shit.. where is the rs cs crew?

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Originally Posted by Nightwalker (Post 6896961)

LOL, either this article is retarded or the government is. Maybe both!

How would having MP5s have solved that, how could these stories be related at all? lol

Their either implying the protesters would've been scared away by the sight of the MP5's, or the sub-guns would have more range to hit and stop the protesters when their high up on the buildings - since all they had before were pistols and shotguns (and tazers) :haha:

But being the RCMP, it's probably because the tazers couldn't shoot high and far enough that they need a new deterrent :haha:

FAIL

they shouldof all upgraded to ump45+silencer/hololgraphic sight

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Originally Posted by Vansterdam (Post 6897048)

FAIL

they shouldof all upgraded to ump45+silencer/hololgraphic sight

except that this isn't a video game.

http://www.css.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/cprc/tr/tr-1995-01.pdf

report from the government about the use of the mp5.

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Originally Posted by MyPresIzBlack (Post 6896882)

lol was thinking the exact same thing.

b43 ftw.

b43 would be imba except our government is too poor :(

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Originally Posted by Nightwalker (Post 6896961)

LOL, either this article is retarded or the government is. Maybe both!

How would having MP5s have solved that, how could these stories be related at all? lol

the point is:

if protesters can break into the government buildings, it highlights the security deficiencies... thus, as part of the process to patch some of these security holes, they're upgrading their weaponary as well.

it's not like they're thinking "oh, if only we had MP5s, we could have shot the protesters"... :rolleyes:

ahahaha omg cs. lets play 1.5!!!!!

Oh don't you guys just love where our tax money goes to?

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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane (Post 6897071)

except that this isn't a video game.

http://www.css.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/cprc/tr/tr-1995-01.pdf

report from the government about the use of the mp5.

game or not

ump>mp5

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 6896965)

wth is b32823b38239813nb34b34234v??

It's the series of keys a person playing CounterStrike would press to buy a MP5 smg, extra ammo, and a bullet proof vest & helmet at the beginning of each round. :p

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Originally Posted by hchang (Post 6897245)

Oh don't you guys just love where our tax money goes to?

Unless some of you were paying taxes in 1985, you don't have much to complain about since it's not technically your tax dollars.

Some perspective:

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OTTAWA — The RCMP hopes the return of Heckler & Koch MP5 guns to Parliament Hill and embassy guard duties will go off without a bang.

The Mounties endured an embarrassing episode 24 years ago when, in a four-month period, officers accidentally fired the weapons outside the Ottawa residences of the prime minister, governor-general and U.S. ambassador. One officer shot himself in the thigh.

Things got so scary, the mayor of Rockcliffe Park asked police to keep the MP5s away from the streets.

Another MP5 went off outside RCMP headquarters in Ottawa.

The German-made guns were eventually phased out of service after RCMP officers were issued 9-mm service pistols in 1996.

The force is now planning to bring the MP5s out of storage to arm its protective policing units guarding Parliament Hill and embassies and consulates nationwide with a modified, single-shot "rifle" version of the legendary submachine-gun carried by police and militaries around the world.

The guns are to serve as secondary or backup weapons and will likely be carried in cruisers.

A police officer's usual backup weapon, the shotgun, was fine in the days of bank robberies and high-risk vehicle stops. But its limited firing range and heavy weight make it less than ideal in many situations today, including perimeter containment, room-to-room searches or firing at distant targets.

"With the types of situations that they'll need to deal with — say an active shooter in one of the buildings — a shotgun doesn't really help. You have better accuracy and range with the MP5s," said Sgt. Greg Cox, an RCMP headquarters spokesman.

MP5 training for protective officers could begin as soon as June, though a rollout date for the weapons won't be set until it's decided how and where the weapons will be securely stored, yet quickly accessible in an emergency.

The RCMP first issued MP5s to special constables guarding area embassies and diplomatic residences in April 1986, in response to the 1985 Armenian terrorist attack on the Turkish embassy in Ottawa that killed embassy security guard Claude Brunelle.

The RCMP's misadventures with the weapon began Sept. 23, 1986, when a special constable shot himself in the thigh when his fully automatic MP5 accidentally went off in front of the Rockcliffe Park residence of then-U.S. ambassador Thomas Niles.

Pat Murray, then Rockcliffe Park's mayor, and other village officials informally approached the RCMP and asked that the machine-gun-toting officers guarding the residence be confined to their guard hut a few metres inside the residence's main gate.

"It's a rather bizarre situation in a quiet residential neighbourhood to see a patrolman with a submachine-gun slung around his chest," Murray told a reporter.

Four days after the incident, another officer fired a round from his submachine-gun into the pavement of the parking lot at RCMP national headquarters. The RCMP recalled and tested all MP5s, equipped with safety latches to prevent accidental firings. All were found to be in good working order.

On Dec. 28 of that year, an officer fired through the wall of a guard hut at the entrance to Government House, then-residence of Gov. Gen. Jeanne Sauve, and across from 24 Sussex Drive, home to then-prime minister Brian Mulroney and his family.

The RCMP special constable had just been proudly showing off the weapon to a passing city policeman and an investigation determined he "didn't know all of the mechanics of the weapon."

No charges were laid and all of the officers involved were sent for remedial firearms training. Senior RCMP officers launched a public relations offensive to calm public fears.

During the October Crisis in 1970, a Canadian Armed Forces soldier guarding the Cartier Street apartment of former finance minister Edgar Benson in Ottawa died after accidentally shooting himself in the head with his nine-millimeter submachine-gun.

Bombardier Reginald Perridou was stepping from the cab of a truck, when the weapon became entangled with his walkie-talkie and a bullet was advanced into the chamber and fired.

http://www.theprovince.com/returning...567/story.html

What happened to that CF soldier is tragic.