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Old 04-10-2010, 04:44 AM   #1
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Polish President Lech Kaczynski dies in plane crash

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Footage from the scene shows firefighters at work amid the wreckage

Polish President Lech Kaczynski and scores of others have been killed in a plane crash in Russia.

Polish and Russian officials said no-one had survived after the plane apparently hit trees as it approached Smolensk's airport in thick fog.

Poland's army chief, central bank governor, MPs and leading historians were among more than 80 passengers.

They were flying in from Warsaw to mark 70 years since the Katyn massacre of thousands of Poles by Soviet forces.

The BBC's Adam Easton, in Warsaw, says the crash is a catastrophe for the Polish people.

He says Prime Minister Donald Tusk was reportedly in tears when he was told.

Mr Tusk, who runs the day-to-day business of government, has called an emergency meeting of ministers.

A government spokesman said that according to the constitution there would be an early presidential election, and the speaker of the lower house of parliament, Bronislaw Komorowski, would become acting president.

Pilot error?

The Russian emergencies ministry told Itar-Tass news agency the plane crashed at 1056 Moscow time (0656 GMT).Smolensk regional governor Sergei Antufiev told Russian TV that no-one had survived.

"As it was preparing for landing, the Polish president's aircraft did not make it to the landing strip," he said.

"According to preliminary reports, it got caught up in the tops of trees, fell to the ground and broke up into pieces. There are no survivors in that crash."

Polish Foreign Ministry spokesman Piotr Paszkowski said it could be assumed with "great certainty" that no-one had survived.

"We still cannot fully understand the scope of this tragedy and what it means for us in the future. Nothing like this has ever happened in Poland," Mr Paszkowski said.

Polish TV worker Slawomir Wisniewski said he had seen the crash from his hotel near the airport.

"I saw through the fog, the aeroplane flying very low with the left wing pointing to the ground," he said.

"I heard something being broken and then that thudding sound. Two flashes of fire next to each other."

It is unclear how many people were on board. Polish officials said the delegation was 88-strong, while local officials said 96 people had been killed.

Russian investigators had earlier said there were 132 people on the plane.

Russian media carried claims that the plane's crew were at fault for the crash.

"The pilot was advised to land in Minsk, but decided to land in Smolensk," said Andrei Yevseyenkov, a Smolensk regional government spokesman.

Controversial figure

The president was flying in a Tupolev 154, a Soviet-designed plane that was more than 20 years old.

Our correspondent says there had been calls for Polish leaders to upgrade their planes.

As well as the president and his wife, Maria, a number of senior officials were on the passenger list.

They included the army chief of staff Gen Franciszek Gagor, central bank governor Slawomir Skrzypek and deputy Foreign Minister Andrzej Kremer.

World leaders including Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown offered their condolences to Poland.

Mr Kaczynski, who had fewer powers than the prime minister but had a significant say in foreign policy, was a controversial figure in Polish politics.

He had advocated a right-wing Catholic agenda, opposed rapid free-market reforms and favoured retaining social welfare programmes.
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list of some of the people on board:
Lech Kaczynski -- Polish president
Maria Kaczynska -- The president's wife
Ryszard Kaczorowski -- Poland's last president-in-exile
Aleksander Szczyglo -- head of the National Security Office
Pawel Wypych -- presidential aide
Mariusz Handzlik -- presidential aide
Jerzy Szmajdzinski -- deputy parliament speaker
Andrzej Kremer -- Deputy Foreign Minister
Gen. Franciszek Gagor -- head of the army chief of staff
Andrzej Przewoznik -- minister in charge of WWII memorials
Slawomir Skrzypek -- head of the National Bank of Poland
Janusz Kurtyka -- head of the National Remembrance Institute
Przemyslaw Gosiewski -- lawmaker
Zbigniew Wassermann -- lawmaker
Grzegorz Dolniak -- lawmaker
Janusz Kochanowski -- civil rights commissioner
Bishop Tadeusz Ploski -- army chaplain
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Huge catastrophe... Poland must be having an even more rough time right now..

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So the plane overshot the runway by a mile and burst into flames? I didnt really understand why it crashed.
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