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a) i can read b) sorry mate and your not my friend, guy |
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I'm having problems figuring this one out, based on what you have posted. You were charged with excessive speed @ $483 = 61 plus k over limit, yet you say the speed entered in court was 150 in a 100k zone? That does not compute. You say the Cop crucified you for no reason and the JP hated you too and smirked at you for no reason other than he loved his authority..so he took your DL? Sounds like there may be some more to this story, ....like another side? |
The initial ticket fine is peanuts compared to the Driver penalty points you'll get 1 month before your birthday. I dispute EVERY SINGLE TICKET NOW! |
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Watch some South Park. :) |
I got an excessive few years back and was just notified this year about the DRP... $320/year for 3 years. I actually lucked out because when I renewed my insurance this year. The agent asked why I don't have the 10+ year drivers discount applied, I just never knew about it. I'm still paying the $320 for 3 years but my insurance rates actually dropped by $350 so it works out even. |
Update: I disputed this ticket, went to court, talked to the cop beforehand, got it reduced to a speeding ticket ($196) In your face. Suckers. |
Interesting. So even though you were originally accused of excessive speed, you were convicted of a lesser charge. With regards to the immediate 7 day roadside impoundment, I've said all along that you may be accused of excessive speed but not convicted of it. The problem with the impoundment is that you effectively pay the penalty based on an accusation, not a conviction. Guilty until proven innocent, right? |
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Before heading into court on the day of, he had a chance to talk to the officer and the officer agreed to reduce the charge to plain speeding if the OP agreed to plead guilty. This happens quite often, if the officer did show up. |
At the end of the day, the OP was convicted of a crime that doesn't come with an impoundment penalty. Despite this, under the new system the OP would have lost his car for a week. |
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Technically, the officer could have been an asshat and not addressed the OP before court. Gone in front of the JP and stated what happened that night and OP could have been convicted of excessive speeding and be given the $XXX dollar ticket that he was originally charged with and still not lose his car for a week since the infraction happened before the impoundment penalty came to be. |
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This is exactly why the impound penalty has come into affect, asshats fighting tickets they are 100% guilty of, and our court system letting them off for it. |
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We have a court system for a reason. To prove guilt or innocence. You don't bypass it because it's an inconvenient nuisance. |
went to the court today and made a deal with the officer before court started. Reduced to MVA 146.1 :) $196 |
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Just a quick question for you guys, since it go reduced to a regular speeding ticket do you still have to pay for the driver premiums from icbc? |
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fuck court.. mine is comming soon. |
Keep in mind when you make deals before traffic court, you're dealing with the Crown Prosecuter, not the Police Officer. Yes its the same person but different roles. Wheeling and dealing before trial is normal in any type of court. Thats what people pay big lawyers for. Just because somebody pleads to a lesser offence doesn't mean they did not commit the original charge offence. Now if they were acquitted of the serious offence, then thats a different story and you may have a leg to stand on |
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But since you can't turn back the hands of time, wouldn't it be reasonable to think that you could have.. oh, I don't know.. perhaps a TRIAL before your sentence is handed down? |
The police are not always honest. I've been pulled over and given tickets over the past 10 years for: -No brake light 1 of 3, at 2am -No signal on right front of car, at 1am -speeding (56 in a 50 zone) -reckless driving (wrong car) -No seatbelt (it was on) -this one's the best one: Excessive speeding on Steveston Hwy, at 130am (I was actually 5km UNDER the limit). Cop threatened at court to "have my ass in a grinder and my license taken away, just like my "racing buddies" (?)" Then had the ticket thrown out for lack of evidence and me filing a report on her. I disputed and won every. single. one. ALL with the PO pleading no evidence. So yes. There ARE ppl who deserve to get pulled over, and cops that are honest. But i've seen more that really don't seem to have anything better to do than be jerks. I'm not saying the OP DIDN'T do what he/she did. But I'm also saying, the cops aren't always doing their job properly either. |
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The worst that can happen is that the OSMV will drop the charge before it goes into court. We WANT to go to court to prove the lack of evidence and incorrect application of the MVA. Oh, there are benefits if they drop it....like the violation is off the record, all impound fees are paid back etc. But, as some of you well know...there is a point to prove! :whistle: |
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