REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Police Forum

Police Forum Police Head Mod: Skidmark
Questions & info about the Motor Vehicle Act. Mature discussion only.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-17-2010, 10:27 PM   #1
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
ness_71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: VI
Posts: 1,054
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Excessive Speeding Ticket

I just got my first excessive speeding ticket. I'm 24 and have only had two minimum tickets. One 70 in a 50, and one 115 in an 80 that I got a break on. Those were both over two years ago.
I was apparently doing 122 in an 80. It was stupid, I know. Do I have a chance at getting this reduced? I don't think I deserve to have the "criminal offence" and the driver risk premium, given my previous record. Can I at least get it reduced so I don't get the driver risk premium? I don't mind the fine so much as the bad record. I've never disputed a ticket before. Help please.
Advertisement
ness_71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2010, 10:32 PM   #2
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
ness_71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: VI
Posts: 1,054
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If I can't get the points reduced, and there is a minimum fine for the excessive speeding and they can't reduce that either, how do I dispute it? I don't dispute the fact I was speeding, but maybe not excessively. Do I have to plead not guilty? Or guilty to a lesser offence?

Do I have to dispute the allegation rather than the fine?
ness_71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2010, 10:35 PM   #3
No Duplicate Accounts Allowed
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: BC
Posts: 818
Thanked 70 Times in 28 Posts
if u were speeding excessively, u deserve it.


edit to ur edit.
IF u truly believe that u werent doing 122 and officer didnt use a laser. (if u ask for his notes, he wrote what was used) then u could get it reduced at court.
simsimi1004 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2010, 10:49 PM   #4
I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
 
jlenko's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Burnaby, BC
Posts: 3,564
Thanked 330 Times in 163 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ness_71
I don't think I deserve to have the "criminal offence" and the driver risk premium, given my previous record.
Maybe if you had a clean record.. but you don't.

But since when was excessive speeding a criminal conviction? It's just a ticket, dude.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ness_71
I don't mind the fine so much as the bad record.
Well.. if you don't want tickets, don't go faster than the flow of traffic. It's hard when you're a young guy and think you're invincible, I know.. I was young once too. You will grow out of this... at least, I hope.
__________________
Don't be the next RS.net statistic - If you drink, don't drive. You'll lose your licence, and the rest of us will laugh at you.
jlenko is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 04-17-2010, 10:54 PM   #5
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
ness_71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: VI
Posts: 1,054
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If I read the ICBC site right, one excessive speeding ticket qualifies you for the Driver Risk Premium, which will be the $368 ticket, plus $320 a year for 3 years.

Actually it says "You may have to pay a DRP based on the table below if your driving record shows..."
"May" means... may not??

Could I try contacting the officer to see if he would reduce it to the next bracket under?

Last edited by ness_71; 04-17-2010 at 11:35 PM.
ness_71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2010, 11:04 PM   #6
My homepage has been set to RS
 
4doorVIP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: V.Island
Posts: 2,102
Thanked 165 Times in 62 Posts
That sucks dude. I remember doing 175 in a 90 zone while blowing the doors off gto last summer - cop reduced it to just speeding

Hopefully next time you are as lucky!
4doorVIP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 11:35 AM   #7
I subscribe to Revscene
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,978
Thanked 185 Times in 129 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4doorVIP View Post
That sucks dude. I remember doing 175 in a 90 zone while blowing the doors off gto last summer - cop reduced it to just speeding

Hopefully next time you are as lucky!
And yet people get convicted for 5km over
__________________
Consider reading the research before commenting on photo enforcement: http://thenewspaper.com/

Support Road safety through education, not speed enforcement.
sebberry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 01:14 PM   #8
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: richmond
Posts: 2,837
Thanked 1,490 Times in 570 Posts
You may also have your license put under review. Meaning they could suspend you for having three pointable infractions within a five year licensing period.
So don't drive like a jackass and slow down will ya.
__________________
Rise Auto Salon

11938 95a Ave Delta
I can be reached VIA text @ 778-232-1465

Oil change special $70 5 liters synthetic oil including OEM filter Fender rolling from $45 per fender
Car Audio:
Focal, Morel, Genesis, Clarion, Scosche, Escort, Compustar, GReddy, Blitz, Tomei, Motul, Endless, Defi, Cusco, Nismo + More


We specialize in:
Custom Car Audio
Race/4x4 Fabrication
Forced Induction
Engine Swaps
General Maintenance
Phil@rise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 03:33 PM   #9
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: PR
Posts: 1,140
Thanked 253 Times in 131 Posts
The fine for excessive speeding is not able to be reduced lower than it is for that speed ($368).

If you dispute the ticket in court and the officer isn't willing to negotiate on the ticket, you'll likely be out of luck in terms of fine/points. The quickest fine-reduction-method would be to pay within the first 30 days and save $25 (not much, but better than full price). Or, you can dispute it in court and see what you can do with the justice/office at that time.
__________________
"Never give a match up halfway through. Never say that you do not feel up to it, that your condition is bad, and throw in the towel. Fight to the very end, always looking for your chance to break through." - Kazuzo Kudo
sho_bc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 08:03 PM   #10
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
ness_71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: VI
Posts: 1,054
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm going to try and dispute the allegation and just plead guilty to 21-40 over. I may as well try.. not worth saving the $25 out of $1400.
ness_71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 08:30 PM   #11
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: PR
Posts: 1,140
Thanked 253 Times in 131 Posts
$1400? The whole story was not told, then. What other tickets did you get? It is $25 per charge.

Whenever I give out that many tickets to one person, I make extra sure my notes are top notch for the probable dispute.

And FYI, you can't just chose to plead guilty for the lesser charge & fine instead of the excessive speed. That is something the officer and judge would have to agree to.
__________________
"Never give a match up halfway through. Never say that you do not feel up to it, that your condition is bad, and throw in the towel. Fight to the very end, always looking for your chance to break through." - Kazuzo Kudo
sho_bc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2010, 09:08 PM   #12
Head Mod yo
 
Victoria SiR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: 250
Posts: 8,803
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
It was simply an excessive speeding ticket 122 in an 80 Sho, nothing else. What she is unclear on is the language on the ICBC website.

http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing...s/risk-premium

If you read the third bullet on the chart next to Phase one it says:

"one or more excessive speeding convictions and/or two or more roadside suspensions."

Since this is an excessive speeding ticket, she is asking if this means she will fall under the DRP.

Hope this helps.

And if the peanut gallery has nothing constructive to add, stop shitting up the thread.

Thanks.
Victoria SiR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2010, 05:37 AM   #13
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: PR
Posts: 1,140
Thanked 253 Times in 131 Posts
Thanks for the correction. I wasn't up to date with the new changes ICBC had implemented.

From the wording on ICBC's website, it seems as though there is a possibility of only getting the DRP bill once, twice or every three years, depending on your driving history. How they determine that, I'm not sure.
__________________
"Never give a match up halfway through. Never say that you do not feel up to it, that your condition is bad, and throw in the towel. Fight to the very end, always looking for your chance to break through." - Kazuzo Kudo
sho_bc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2010, 07:05 AM   #14
Head Mod yo
 
Victoria SiR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: 250
Posts: 8,803
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Just an update for others benefits: The excessive fine does result in the additional fines.

One excessive = over 1000 dollars in fines. Even if you currently have no points. Just something to remember.
Victoria SiR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2010, 04:15 PM   #15
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
ness_71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: VI
Posts: 1,054
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Also, starting in 2011 regular offences will be in the DRP program, not just the more serious ones. Which means paying for speeding tickets for 3 years ... no more 3 free points a year.
ness_71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2010, 09:08 AM   #16
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
shenmecar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 8,858
Thanked 2,420 Times in 669 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Victoria SiR View Post
Just an update for others benefits: The excessive fine does result in the additional fines.

One excessive = over 1000 dollars in fines. Even if you currently have no points. Just something to remember.
excessive speeding is $3XX? What else can they charge you for that would result in over $1000?
__________________
2014 Honda Civic Si
shenmecar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2010, 09:29 AM   #17
I bringith the lowerballerith
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: PR
Posts: 1,140
Thanked 253 Times in 131 Posts
all the associated DRP fines given by ICBC
__________________
"Never give a match up halfway through. Never say that you do not feel up to it, that your condition is bad, and throw in the towel. Fight to the very end, always looking for your chance to break through." - Kazuzo Kudo
sho_bc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2010, 11:57 AM   #18
Proud to be called a RS Regular!
 
kuruuze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Maple Ridge
Posts: 147
Thanked 18 Times in 9 Posts
ness_71 i'm similarly aged and to your case as well except i had 0 offenses on my liscence before my first/only offense which happened to be excessive speed. I was charged with excessive speed (150km/hr in i think 100km/hr zone) which was arguable because my car can't even reach up that fast pedal to the floor, i'm lucky when it reaches 130km/hr downhill and it only reaches like 90km/hr up steep hill.

Your best option imo is to just pay the fine. Here's what happened in my case.

Plead my case to cop to lower fine cause i didn't believe it was fair (wanted a lesser charge), car coudln't have gone that fast because it physically doesn't. He was unsympathetic and said no i have to pay full fine and learn my lesson as he had a big smirky grin on his face feeling up his authority. Plead guilty in court and asked for a reduction in fine seeing as how it was my first and only offense, not only did the judge not reduce the fine but they took away my liscence for 1 month saying something about how consequences are to be thought of before actions; leaving me stranded with no way to move my car out of their court parking lot. Yes my liscence was suspended with only 3 points on it they can do that for excessive speed.

In the end my fine was $483 under section 148(1). i just paid off my first extra $320 in the first of the three years. It's not "may" it's yes you have to pay $320 every year for 3 years.

You landed yourself a $1443 ticket buddy deal with it. Work some Overtime or something. gl hf and GG.
kuruuze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 05:15 PM   #19
RS Lurker, I don't post!
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: vnacouver
Posts: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by simsimi1004 View Post
if u were speeding excessively, u deserve it.


edit to ur edit.
IF u truly believe that u werent doing 122 and officer didnt use a laser. (if u ask for his notes, he wrote what was used) then u could get it reduced at court.
i just got pulled over last night as well, the cop said got me on his radar at 100 in 50, when i was not going no more than 65. On top of that my radar did not pick anything up as well. Should i dispute this or not ?
raj1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2010, 08:07 AM   #20
Banned (BBM)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 16,142
Thanked 627 Times in 368 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ness_71 View Post
Also, starting in 2011 regular offences will be in the DRP program, not just the more serious ones. Which means paying for speeding tickets for 3 years ... no more 3 free points a year.
damn that is really gay
Quote:
Originally Posted by raj1 View Post
i just got pulled over last night as well, the cop said got me on his radar at 100 in 50, when i was not going no more than 65. On top of that my radar did not pick anything up as well. Should i dispute this or not ?
dispute that man
Mugen EvOlutioN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2010, 12:26 PM   #21
Retired Traffic Cop
 
skidmark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Nanoose Bay, BC
Posts: 9,025
Thanked 125 Times in 68 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by raj1 View Post
i just got pulled over last night as well, the cop said got me on his radar at 100 in 50, when i was not going no more than 65. On top of that my radar did not pick anything up as well. Should i dispute this or not ?
Just because your detector didn't warn you doesn't mean that you weren't measured. How do you know you weren't going more than 65? The difference between 100 in a 50 and 65 in a 50 should be so obvious that the officer would know it....
__________________
Have you ever met anyone that would admit to being less than a better than average driver ??

Learn more at DriveSmartBC
skidmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2010, 12:33 PM   #22
look at these diamonds, they shining
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,800
Thanked 1,813 Times in 553 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by kuruuze View Post
ness_71 i'm similarly aged and to your case as well except i had 0 offenses on my liscence before my first/only offense which happened to be excessive speed. I was charged with excessive speed (150km/hr in i think 100km/hr zone) which was arguable because my car can't even reach up that fast pedal to the floor, i'm lucky when it reaches 130km/hr downhill and it only reaches like 90km/hr up steep hill.

Your best option imo is to just pay the fine. Here's what happened in my case.

Plead my case to cop to lower fine cause i didn't believe it was fair (wanted a lesser charge), car coudln't have gone that fast because it physically doesn't. He was unsympathetic and said no i have to pay full fine and learn my lesson as he had a big smirky grin on his face feeling up his authority. Plead guilty in court and asked for a reduction in fine seeing as how it was my first and only offense, not only did the judge not reduce the fine but they took away my liscence for 1 month saying something about how consequences are to be thought of before actions; leaving me stranded with no way to move my car out of their court parking lot. Yes my liscence was suspended with only 3 points on it they can do that for excessive speed.

In the end my fine was $483 under section 148(1). i just paid off my first extra $320 in the first of the three years. It's not "may" it's yes you have to pay $320 every year for 3 years.

You landed yourself a $1443 ticket buddy deal with it. Work some Overtime or something. gl hf and GG.
holy... i feel for you
Drow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2010, 05:44 AM   #23
Banned (ABWS)
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 246
Thanked 34 Times in 18 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by kuruuze View Post
ness_71 i'm similarly aged and to your case as well except i had 0 offenses on my liscence before my first/only offense which happened to be excessive speed. I was charged with excessive speed (150km/hr in i think 100km/hr zone) which was arguable because my car can't even reach up that fast pedal to the floor, i'm lucky when it reaches 130km/hr downhill and it only reaches like 90km/hr up steep hill.

Your best option imo is to just pay the fine. Here's what happened in my case.

Plead my case to cop to lower fine cause i didn't believe it was fair (wanted a lesser charge), car coudln't have gone that fast because it physically doesn't. He was unsympathetic and said no i have to pay full fine and learn my lesson as he had a big smirky grin on his face feeling up his authority. Plead guilty in court and asked for a reduction in fine seeing as how it was my first and only offense, not only did the judge not reduce the fine but they took away my liscence for 1 month saying something about how consequences are to be thought of before actions; leaving me stranded with no way to move my car out of their court parking lot. Yes my liscence was suspended with only 3 points on it they can do that for excessive speed.

In the end my fine was $483 under section 148(1). i just paid off my first extra $320 in the first of the three years. It's not "may" it's yes you have to pay $320 every year for 3 years.

You landed yourself a $1443 ticket buddy deal with it. Work some Overtime or something. gl hf and GG.
Holy shit! OP your best action may be to just pay the fine.
RollingStone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2010, 05:38 PM   #24
Need to Seek Professional Help
 
ness_71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: VI
Posts: 1,054
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by kuruuze View Post
In the end my fine was $483 under section 148(1). i just paid off my first extra $320 in the first of the three years. It's not "may" it's yes you have to pay $320 every year for 3 years.
How did you manage a $483 fine? You would have had to be doing at least 60over the limit, not 50. And if that`s the case, then we are talking about different situations.

And for anyone else who is thinking of posting in here:
a) Read the damn thread first, and
b) I`m not a dude or your "buddy"... sorry.
ness_71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2010, 11:31 PM   #25
No Duplicate Accounts Allowed
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: BC
Posts: 818
Thanked 70 Times in 28 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by kuruuze View Post
ness_71 i'm similarly aged and to your case as well except i had 0 offenses on my liscence before my first/only offense which happened to be excessive speed. I was charged with excessive speed (150km/hr in i think 100km/hr zone) which was arguable because my car can't even reach up that fast pedal to the floor, i'm lucky when it reaches 130km/hr downhill and it only reaches like 90km/hr up steep hill.

Your best option imo is to just pay the fine. Here's what happened in my case.

Plead my case to cop to lower fine cause i didn't believe it was fair (wanted a lesser charge), car coudln't have gone that fast because it physically doesn't. He was unsympathetic and said no i have to pay full fine and learn my lesson as he had a big smirky grin on his face feeling up his authority. Plead guilty in court and asked for a reduction in fine seeing as how it was my first and only offense, not only did the judge not reduce the fine but they took away my liscence for 1 month saying something about how consequences are to be thought of before actions; leaving me stranded with no way to move my car out of their court parking lot. Yes my liscence was suspended with only 3 points on it they can do that for excessive speed.

In the end my fine was $483 under section 148(1). i just paid off my first extra $320 in the first of the three years. It's not "may" it's yes you have to pay $320 every year for 3 years.

You landed yourself a $1443 ticket buddy deal with it. Work some Overtime or something. gl hf and GG.
shouldve dynoed?(does it show speed? i dunno) your car as evidence and show it in court. you wouldve won if what u say is true.
simsimi1004 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net