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Old 04-20-2010, 10:39 AM   #1
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School me regarding process cheese

now skinnypup mentioned about process cheese in other thread.


I was pretty shocked that i been eating process cheese in my sandwich all my life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processed_cheese

it doesnt really state how or why process cheese is bad

i went to costco the other day, compare the two. Seems like real cheese has more calories, more cholestrol and shit....
so why exactly is process cheese bad for you.

such a misleading food that confuses the average consumer
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I think it's perceived as less healthy because of the ingredients/additives that go into it.

"Processed cheese is made with real cheese and mixed with emulsifying salt and other ingredients such as (fat added as cream, anhydrous milkfat or dehydrated cream; acids; artificial color; enzyme-modified cheese for flavor; antimycotic agents; and lecithin as an anti-sticking agent), and is pasturized. The emulsifiers assist with the smooth melting ability of processed cheese."

"Natural cheese is made by removing water from milk with lemon juice, vinegar, or bacteria. Then rennet is mixed in with the curd that resulted causing coagulation (I think). Natural cheese is a bit lumpier and separates when melted, and its taste develops with age."

I don't know if there is any scientific proof to say which is actually healthier.

To me processed cheese just tastes like shit, that's why I don't eat it. I also find it crazy that processed cheese doesn't have to be refridgerated...
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To me processed cheese just tastes like shit, that's why I don't eat it.
+1 on this, how come processed cheese slices are so salty?

I do enjoy super unhealthy processed jalepeno cheese dip with tortilla chips.
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really?

when i used to work in superstore almost a decade ago, we had to keep the kraft singles fake ass cheese refridgerated

friend did a study, he said it contains aluminium in half ass cheese, just so it melts better.



Sigh that shit shouldnt even belong in there in the first place...we humans eat tat shit!
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The only time I will eat processed chesse is on a grilled cheese sandwich. Other then that real cheese ftw, processed just tastes like plastic compaired to real cheese.
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processed cheese has the texture of plastic and no taste.

i usually just buy a block of aged cheddar to slice up for sandwiches.
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really?

when i used to work in superstore almost a decade ago, we had to keep the kraft singles fake ass cheese refridgerated
When my wife worked for Save-On-Foods she said they'd get a whole pile in stock for a sale, and just stick it on a pallet in the middle of an isle.

I think I even remember reading the packaging on Kraft singles and not finding the "Keep in refridgerator" requirement.
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was at burnaby costco yesterday, they kept those kraft singles in the fridge lol
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I think it mostly boils down to the 'natural vs artificial' argument, what effect are all these chemically enhanced foods having on our biology? The corn syrup controversy currently occurring is more of the same, along with aspartame/artificial sugar.

Most dining also comes down to- do you want the real thing and pay a premium? Or take the engineered crap for next to nothing.
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This. I tried to cook a grilled cheese sandwich using natural cheese, it tasted pretty good but it seemed a bit wasteful to use it like that.
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^ If it taste good it doesn't matter.
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you cant melt real cheese thast why this world needs process cheese.
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The only time I will eat processed chesse is on a grilled cheese sandwich. Other then that real cheese ftw, processed just tastes like plastic compaired to real cheese.
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try grilled cheese with REAL cheese, either old cheddar, or smoked cheddar, or white! delicious
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you cant melt real cheese thast why this world needs process cheese.
Melted cheese tastes even better...
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I don't think process cheese is automatically bad. But it can be garbage, where real natural cheese can not.

And by the way, all the extra fat and cholesterol in real cheese is what makes it better, not worse. Take real fat whenever you can get it!
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isnt fat....just fat?


now there is good fat too on top of good cholestrol? damn
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fat isn't 'just fat'. Not by a long shot.

My eyes can barely stay open at this point. But basically, if it comes from an animal, it is good fat. If it comes from plants, it can be either good (olive, nuts, etc) or really bad (rape, soy, etc)

If it's saturated naturally, it is good (ie animal fat). but if it is altered to be useful for cooking, it is bad - almost all vegetable oils, anything they use to fry with in restaurants is terrible. (But they were forced to by the idiots who spread misinformation that saturated fat is bad, so now we're left with hydrogenated vegetable oil which is far worse)

I thnk one way that may or may not work (not sure, haven't put much thought into it) is if you are eating something and you know the fat is there, it's usually good fat. For instance fat on a steak, or delicious butter. But if the fat is 'hidden' and in there to artificially boost flavour, it is usually bad (potato chips, dressings, etc). Again this isn't 100%, just a theory I have been pondering.

And yes there is good cholesterol, and it all comes from good fat. There is also bad cholesterol, and good-bad cholesterol

One last thing to think about. Check out the ingredients for Wendy's 'normal' cheese used on most burgers:

Cultured Milk, Water, Cream, Sodium Citrate, Salt, Sodium Phosphate,
Citric Acid, Sorbic Acid (preservative), Artificial Color, Enzymes, Soy Lecithin.

And then their 'natural swiss cheese'

Cultured Part-Skim Milk, Salt, Enzymes

Which one sounds more appetizing?
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if you're too lazy to slice up your own cheese. You can try the cracker barrel sliced cheese. Safeway has them.
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Not sure how true this is but...

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This is a little tidbit a friend of mine learned while doing a co-op at a factory that made cheese.

The cheese would originally be formed into huge blocks (I can't remember exact dimensions... but we're talking about a 6 foot cube).

It would then be put on palettes to "age". It would be moved around by forklift, etc.

When the cheese was ready to be packaged and sold, they would retrieve the huge block of cheese and the first thing they would do is cut off all of the sides since they were "exposed for weeks while the cheese aged. This outer layer of cheese would be MOLDY and DIRTY. There would be stones and other crap stuck in the cheese so this isn't only mold that we are talking about here. This material that was cut off the outside of the block was then weighed and thrown in a huge bin. They would do this with various kinds of cheeses until the bin was full. They could then turn this disgusting, moldy, dirty cheese into "processed cheese" by processing it and adding other "stuff" to the mix (based on how much of each kind of cheese was in the bin, they could bring the cheese back to a standard "processed cheese"). Technically the cheese is fine to eat because the process it goes through kills all bacteria, etc. and stones and whatnot also get filtered out.

My friend would not each processed cheese however... so that spoke volumes to me.
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OP, you might want to read this article.

http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/i...urKraftSingles

Processed cheese like Kraft singles and Cheese Whiz essentially take 2nd rate dried leftovers of dairy processing, and formulate it and resell as a healthy product.

I didn't need to read that article to prefer real cheese anyway.
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