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04-26-2010, 08:15 PM
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#76 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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04-26-2010, 08:49 PM
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#77 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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and don't get me wrong; i find the cosmos to be completely enthralling.
i suppose the closest statement to what i was trying to express is that sure, it's all amazing. but no more amazing than the wonders of our own planet
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04-26-2010, 10:30 PM
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i read an article a while back how NASA's satellite received strange signals coming from far off in the universe.. so ya there is definetly a high possiblity in alien lifeform.
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04-26-2010, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BaoXu  I said EVIDENCE. Not speculation. | Evidence is only needed for supernatural claims. I shouldn't have used the word evidence.. I should have said plausible circumstances..
Claiming that life exists elsewhere in the universe its not a supernatural claim outside the laws of physics; its an just an educated guess.
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04-26-2010, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by impactX We humans are just too naive and self-centered to think that any alien would want to contact us.
If I were an alien and I receive this picture, I would just ask wtf is this shit? Semi NWS (nekkid men and women that's mentioned in OP's post re: Pioneer 10): | You might be interested in some info behind it. I guess the man waving, they were hoping it was some sign of universal (no pun intended) greeting.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_plaque | |
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04-27-2010, 12:15 AM
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^ Yup, and also the "Criticism" section.
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04-27-2010, 12:21 AM
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^ Ya. It's interesting to think that an arrow is a very poor choice of showing the guidance of the spacecraft..
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04-27-2010, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo Evidence is only needed for supernatural claims. I shouldn't have used the word evidence.. I should have said plausible circumstances..
Claiming that life exists elsewhere in the universe its not a supernatural claim outside the laws of physics; its an just an educated guess. | All claims need to be backed up!! If you claim something, back it up!
or else it's just a belief.
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04-27-2010, 09:06 AM
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I believe there are aliens. Have I seen one? No. But I'm sure there is a form of life somewhere out there. What I don't believe is they all fly in space ships, look like prawns and have deathrays. For all we know they are a huge race of sexbots who want to bring pleasure and not pain.
Maybe they would WANT our resources but don't have the power. People believe too much in sci fi movies. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Originally Posted by impactX We humans are just too naive and self-centered to think that any alien would want to contact us.
If I were an alien and I receive this picture, I would just ask wtf is this shit? Semi NWS (nekkid men and women that's mentioned in OP's post re: Pioneer 10): | I kinda agree with this.... An advanced life form that's been around for millions of years comes by earth and sees us, they probably wouldn't bother with us. The farthest we sent someone is to the moon. It'd be trying to make contact with a fly. There's probably nothing we can teach them that they don't already know.
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04-27-2010, 03:43 PM
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^ agreed
they want our resources? There's nothing left here...we humans have used it up lmao. As others have mentioned... We are a spec of sand to them...it'll be like us teaching flies how to do calculus...why bother? Posted via RS Mobile | |
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04-27-2010, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vafanculo I believe there are aliens. Have I seen one? No. But I'm sure there is a form of life somewhere out there. What I don't believe is they all fly in space ships, look like prawns and have deathrays. For all we know they are a huge race of sexbots who want to bring pleasure and not pain. |
The only reason scientists "speculate" the above idealisms is that in the grand scheme of things, our sun and the earth are actually very young terrestial planets.
Since the universe is that much older and due to the mathematical probabilities of life on other solar systems, so goes the probability of civilizations that may be thousands of millenia beyond our advancement.
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05-16-2010, 10:53 PM
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Fascinating article:
More at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...New-Earth.html Quote:
It's got the same climate as Earth, plus water and gravity. A newly discovered planet is the most stunning evidence that life - just like us - might be out there. Above a calm, dark ocean, a huge, bloated red sun rises in the sky - a full ten times the size of our Sun as seen from Earth. Small waves lap at a sandy shore and on the beach, something stirs...
This is the scene - or may be the scene - on what is possibly the most extraordinary world to have been discovered by astronomers: the first truly Earth-like planet to have been found outside our Solar System. The discovery was announced today by a team of European astronomers, using a telescope in La Silla in the Chilean Andes. If forced bookies to slash odds on the existence of alien beings.
The Earth-like planet that could be covered in oceans and may support life is 20.5 light years away, and has the right temperature to allow liquid water on its surface.
This remarkable discovery appears to confirm the suspicions of most astronomers that the universe is swarming with Earth-like worlds.
We don't yet know much about this planet, but scientists believe that it may be the best candidate so far for supporting extraterrestrial life.
The new planet, which orbits a small, red star called Gliese 581, is about one-and-a-half times the diameter of the Earth.
It probably has a substantial atmosphere and may be covered with large amounts of water - necessary for life to evolve - and, most importantly, temperatures are very similar to those on our world.
It is the first exoplanet (a planet orbiting a star other than our own Sun) that is anything like our Earth.
Of the 220 or so exoplanets found to date, most have either been too big, made of gas rather than solid material, far too hot, or far too cold for life to survive.
"On the treasure map of the Universe, one would be tempted to mark this planet with an X," says Xavier Delfosse, one of the scientists who discovered the planet. "Because of its temperature and relative proximity, this planet will most probably be a very important target of the future space missions dedicated to the search for extraterrestrial life."
Gliese 581 is among the closest stars to us, just 20.5 light years away (about 120 trillion miles) in the constellation Libra. It is so dim it can be seen only with a good telescope. Because all planets are relatively so small and the light they give off so faint compared to their sun, finding exoplanets is extremely difficult unless they are huge. Those that have so far been detected have mostly been massive, Jupiter-like balls of gas that almost certainly cannot be home to life. This new planet - known for the time being as Gliese 581c - is a midget in comparison, being about 12,000 miles across (Earth is a little under 8,000 pole-to-pole). It has a mass five times that of Earth, probably made of the same sort of rock as makes up our world and with enough gravity to hold a substantial atmosphere.
Astrobiologists - scientists who study the possibility of alien life - refer to a climate known as the Goldilocks Zone, where it is not so cold that water freezes and not so hot that it boils, but where it can lie on the planet's surface as a liquid.
In our solar system, only one planet - Earth -lies in the Goldilocks Zone. Venus is far too hot and Mars is just too cold. This new planet lies bang in the middle of the zone, with average surface temperatures estimated to be between zero and 40c (32-102f). Lakes, rivers and even oceans are possible.
It is not clear what this planet is made of. If it is rock, like the Earth, then its surface may be land, or a combination of land and ocean.
Another possibility is that Gliese 581c was formed mostly from ice far from the star (ice is a very common substance in the Universe), and moved to the close orbit it inhabits today.
In which case its entire surface will have melted to form a giant, planet-wide ocean with no land, save perhaps a few rocky islands or icebergs.
The surface gravity is probably around twice that of the Earth and the atmosphere could be similar to ours.
Although the new planet is in itself very Earth-like, its solar system is about as alien as could be imagined. The star at the centre - Gliese 581 - is small and dim, only about a third the size of our Sun and about 50 times cooler.
The two other planets are huge, Neptune-sized worlds called Gliese 581b and d (there is no "a", to avoid confusion with the star itself).
The Earth-like planet orbits its sun at a distance of only six million miles or so (our Sun is 93 million miles away), travelling so fast that its "year" only lasts 13 of our days.
The parent star would dominate the view from the surface - a huge red ball of fire that must be a spectacular sight. It is difficult to speculate what - if any - life there is on the planet. If there is life there it would have to cope with the higher gravity and solar radiation from its sun.
Just because Gliese 581c is habitable does not mean that it is inhabited, but we do know its sun is an ancient star - in fact, it is one of the oldest stars in the galaxy, and extremely stable. If there is life, it has had many billions of years to evolve.
This makes this planet a prime target in the search for life. According to Seth Shostak, of the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute in California, the Gliese system is now a prime target for a radio search. 'We had actually looked at this system before but only for a few minutes. We heard nothing, but now we must look again.'
By 2020 at least one space telescope should be in orbit, with the capability of detecting signs of life on planets orbiting nearby stars. If oxygen or methane (tell-tale biological gases) are found in Gliese 581c's atmosphere, this would be good circumstantial evidence for life.
Dr Malcolm Fridlund, a European Space Agency scientist, said the discovery of Gliese 581c was "an important step" on the road to finding life.
"If this is a rocky planet, it's very likely it will have liquid water on its surface, which means there may also be life."
The real importance is not so much the discovery of this planet itself, but the fact that it shows that Earth-like planets are probably extremely common in the Universe.
There are 200 billion stars in our galaxy alone and many astronomers believe most of these stars have planets.
The fact that almost as soon as we have built a telescope capable of detecting small, earth-like worlds, one turns up right on our cosmic doorstep, shows that statistically, there are probably billions of earths out there.
As Seth Shostak says: "We've never found one close to being like the Earth until now. We are finding that Earth is not such an unusual puppy in the litter of planets."
But are these alien Earths home to life? No one knows. We don't understand how life began on our world, let alone how it could arise anywhere else. There may be an awful lot of bugs and bacteria out there, and only a few worlds with what we would recognise as plants and animals. Or, of course, there may be nothing.
The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute uses radio telescopes to try to pick up messages sent by alien civilisations.
Interestingly, Gliese 581c is so close to the Earth that if its putative inhabitants only had our level of technology, they could - just about - pick up some of our radio signals, such as the most powerful military transmitters. Quite what would happen if we for our part did receive a signal is unclear.
"There is a protocol, buried away in the United Nations," says Dr Shostak. "The President would be told first, after the signal was confirmed by other observatories. But we couldn't keep such a discovery secret."
It may be some time before we detect any such signals, but it is just possible that today we are closer than ever to finding life in the stars.
William Hill said it had shortened the odds on proving the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence from 1,000-1 to 100-1.
Spokesman Graham Sharpe said: "We would face a possible eight-figure payout if it were to be confirmed that intelligent life of extra-terrestrial origin exists. We felt we had to react to the news that an earth-like planet which could support intelligent life had been discovered - after all, we don't know for sure that intelligent extraterrestrial life has not already been discovered."
The new planet, so far unnamed, is 20.5 light years away and orbits a red dwarf star called Gliese 581.
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^. That's interesteing! Kinda weird that the planet might be entirely ocean. LOL @ the communication attempts.. communication with a 20 year delay.
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There are probably 100+ fish species that are 1000 years old in the deep blue sea waiting to be discovered. Same theory work for universe, there is gotta be some living things we dont know about. http://www.oddee.com/item_79915.aspx lol, these creatures looks like alien to me
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#95 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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ya why would aliens waste space fuel to come visit earth? there must be a planet somewhere where there's horny 9-breasted sexy female aliens that can care less for next year's handbag trend, and are allergic to diamonds
if i was an alien, why the hell would i come to earth? to catch the latest season of the biggest loser, to see which of those fat fucks can embarass themself the most on national television? watch re runs and re runs of fucking seinfield and bad movies? or to visit texas and eat the biggest mafacking steak in the known universe which the cows have been fed with chemicals and hormones cause no1 gives a fuck?
stupid ppl on earth
busy with trivial shit like territories and stupid wars since the dawn of time, working for shit called money, deception all around, everyone has to be better than the person next to them with no end in sight
wasting brain cells and resources to create enough nuclear bombs to blow this shitty little planet 1000x over
fucking humans i wanna be borg
fucking skytrain
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#96 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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but why would we build so many nuclear bombs in the first place?? (O__O)!?
maybe those 999 other nuclear bombs are for someone else o___o
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Why would an alien race that is advanced enough to travel to our solar system give a shit about humans.
It's like us walking by an ant hill. We're not going to say hi to the ants, we're just going to keep walking.
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#98 | | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
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Originally Posted by Chopstick but why would we build so many nuclear bombs in the first place?? (O__O)!?
maybe those 999 other nuclear bombs are for someone else o___o | If we have enough nukes to blow ourselves up 20 times, why can't we take down an asteroid 1/4 of our size?
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#99 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by Chopstick ya why would aliens waste space fuel to come visit earth? there must be a planet somewhere where there's horny 9-breasted sexy female aliens that can care less for next year's handbag trend, and are allergic to diamonds
if i was an alien, why the hell would i come to earth? to catch the latest season of the biggest loser, to see which of those fat fucks can embarass themself the most on national television? watch re runs and re runs of fucking seinfield and bad movies? or to visit texas and eat the biggest mafacking steak in the known universe which the cows have been fed with chemicals and hormones cause no1 gives a fuck?
stupid ppl on earth
busy with trivial shit like territories and stupid wars since the dawn of time, working for shit called money, deception all around, everyone has to be better than the person next to them with no end in sight
wasting brain cells and resources to create enough nuclear bombs to blow this shitty little planet 1000x over
fucking humans i wanna be borg
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Was that supposed to be funny or smart? Because it was neither.
1stly, the expanse of the universe is equated to the desert. When you come to an object of interest; say an oasis, village, or city, what intelligent creature would opt to continue walking around endlessly some more in the infinite desert?
2ndly, until an alien lifeform does actually discover our planet, they're not going to know our nature as people, our environment, our nuclear arms, handbags, to be be able to pre-empt the decision not to explore our planet.
Your "look at me, I'm trying to be cute" posts are old and only lightly entertaining the first time. At least I'll give you credit for finally learning not to talk in the 3rd person.
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The planet article is interesting. but when its only 20 light years away how come they didnt see it earlier? sounds like that nibiru planet lol. approx 8-10 times the size of earth, many earth like features, and are only finding it now because of its 3600 year orbit and is supposed to be visible to humans in may 2011 so they say.
But people say why would aliens be interested in humans? We humans are curious about other life forms so why can they? Because we would be a "unknown" species to them.
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