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05-11-2010, 01:22 AM
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eitherway, its a drug that is harmful.
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05-11-2010, 01:24 AM
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#27 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious  Got any links to peer reviewed scientific journals that substantiate your bolded claim? No? Didn't think so...
I don't see how you can use pedophilia as an example when there is a victim DIRECTLY affected by the crime. Smoking pot does not affect yours, or my welfare.
The problem is, the majority of society is stupid and prone to believing incredibly outdated notions. What happened when prohibition was lifted in the 30's...? Crime and bootlegging completely disappeared. Almost every scientist will agree that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol and obesity | lolz, exactly.. everyone's taking stats!!
I was thinking the same thing.
WHERE'S THE DATA ???
and it's pot? it's legal in other places in the world... so it should be here.
and i've talked to a lot of people who have never smoked pot before...
they said even it were legal, they wouldn't smoke it.
and making it legal doesn't make it any more accessible.. everyone knows where to get pot.. everyone has at least one person they know.
personally, it's interesting to try.. but, after a couple times you don't feel the need to do it anymore...i do know some pot heads though
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05-11-2010, 01:25 AM
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#28 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by simsimi1004 eitherway, its a drug that is harmful. | alcohol is a drug that is harmful...
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05-11-2010, 01:44 AM
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#29 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by fishing666 how is the level of harm judged? | does the level of harm factor in the manner of consumption? with marijuana, you can save your lungs by baking it into food or taking it in pill form.
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05-11-2010, 07:03 AM
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#30 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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Good riddance I say.
Marc Emery is an idiot. He broke the law. Worse, he knew he was breaking the law and he was "challenging" the US by being so brazen about it. Maybe he should go to the Middle East and sell seeds and then whine when they want to execute him.
You don't break the laws in another country just because "it's legal where I live".
I remember when he was arrested in Saskatchewan and made the statement that it was safe to drive while high, and certainly not as bad to drive under the influence of pot as compared to alcohol. Yeah right, we all know smoking pot has absolutely no affect on your reaction times. 
And this is the kind of person people are defending? Or the kind of person you want to be your spokesperson? I would think advocates of pot would want to see him go so they could get someone else with half a brain to represent them.
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05-11-2010, 07:56 AM
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we had some discussion in school a while ago about legalizing drugs and stuff
they should just legalize pot, i mean if people WANT pot, they are gonna find a way to get it regardless. i mean if you REALLY wanted something, you'll find a way to make it happen.
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05-11-2010, 08:23 AM
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^ so where do you draw the line? is someone REALLY wants crack or heroin, they can get it too. should we legalize ALL the drugs becasue people will buy them regardless?
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05-11-2010, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PiuYi i was too lazy to read the article, but for those who did, can someone tell me why ecstasy is so far down?? i thought it'd be at least higher than alcohol... LSD too..  | prob b/c weed is usually smoked and produces carcinogens.
bullshit tho. ecstasy is far more harmful. its not hard to od on e.
2 becomes 3, 3 becomes 4, 4 becomes 5, etc....
it takes a noticeable toll on your body.
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05-11-2010, 09:01 AM
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So where would you put addiction to RS? It has probably harmed a lot of people, although I love it. LOL.
Sorry, off topic.........
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05-11-2010, 09:06 AM
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05-11-2010, 09:16 AM
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#36 | | What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
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my 0.2
have you ever heard of anyone smoking a joint and going home and beating there wife, or having some bong hits and ordering up some cocaine.
there is a lot more destructive drug that is aloud in society because in small doses it creates social behavior, but in large doses does as much harm to peoples lives as any hardcore drug.
joint > beer
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05-11-2010, 09:52 AM
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#37 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by 00EM1 have you ever heard of anyone smoking a joint and going home and beating there wife, or having some bong hits and ordering up some cocaine.
| Good point.
In my own personal experience, I know a lot of people who primarily booze, and a lot of people who primarily smoke marijuana.
Guess which ones I have seen turn violent when they use their drug? Guess which ones I have NEVER seen have any violent tendencies?
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05-11-2010, 09:53 AM
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| Prohibition didn't work for alcohol. How can it succeed with marijuana? Take away this cash cow that makes criminals lots of money. Let the government control the sale of weed, like alcohol, and tax it. Allocate some money made from the taxes for education and addiction treatment.
Of course, it will never fly. Our big brother to the South would get all pissy, since a lot of people make money from the war against drugs. It would kill their prison business!
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05-11-2010, 09:59 AM
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^yup they really hate drugs down south... check out this article and video http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/05/vi...id-on-missouri
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05-11-2010, 10:03 AM
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Its funny how the US is so pissed off and makes such a big deal about it when its basiclly already legalized in cali. I still don't get how the FBI can come into canada to arrest a Canadian citizen. I swear every single day we have less and less rights. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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05-11-2010, 10:09 AM
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#41 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by murd0c I still don't get how the FBI can come into canada to arrest a Canadian citizen. | I think this is the larger issue at hand. The way this has all taken place is like Canada is unzipping it's pants, showing it's ass to the USA and saying "HAVE AT IT!"
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05-11-2010, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by murd0c I still don't get how the FBI can come into canada to arrest a Canadian citizen. I swear every single day we have less and less rights. Posted via RS Mobile | That is the biggest concern here for me.
Fucking USA.
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05-11-2010, 10:47 AM
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#43 | | I don't like cheese but I love milk!
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Originally Posted by Graeme S Given the fact that Marijuana is illegal and therefore unregulated, your argument is illogical.
It is easier for a 13-year old kid to get Pot than it is for him to get booze. Why? Because he'll get ID'd trying to buy booze, but any dealer will sell him pot if he has the cash.
REGULATED legalization is the real way of doing it if you really want to protect the "developing mind". | Given the fact that Meth is illegal and therefore unregulated, your argument is illogical.
It is easier for a 13-year old kid to get Meth than it is for him to get booze. Why? Because he'll get ID'd trying to buy Meth, but any dealer will sell him Meth if he has the cash.
REGULATED legalization is the real way of doing it if you really want to protect the "developing mind".
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A concern parent sees no difference between this argument and your argument.
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05-11-2010, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by murd0c Its funny how the US is so pissed off and makes such a big deal about it when its basiclly already legalized in cali. I still don't get how the FBI can come into canada to arrest a Canadian citizen. I swear every single day we have less and less rights. Posted via RS Mobile | They are shutting down all the shops in L.A. right now.
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05-11-2010, 11:06 AM
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I'm not a pot smoker but I have no issues with legalizing marijuana, however I just cannot throw my support behind the movement locally because of Marc Emery and his supporters and how they conduct themselves. I've had this discussion with a number of professional business people in my social circle who are also non pot smokers and even tho they have no problems with the legalization of marijuana, they will never support the movement as long as Marc Emery is the face of it.
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05-11-2010, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by murd0c I still don't get how the FBI can come into canada to arrest a Canadian citizen. I swear every single day we have less and less rights. Posted via RS Mobile | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch28 That is the biggest concern here for me.
Fucking USA. |
I am of the opinion that Emery brought this upon himself. He knew selling marijuana seeds is illegal and continued to do so. It's no different than selling and shipping cocaine to Amercians. I am in no way saying or comparing how harmful marijuana is to cocaine, I'm just pointing out that both are illegal substances and Emery knew this and continued to export them into the United States, even Emery himself has admitted as much and has already reached a plea deal with the Americans last year for a 5 year prison term.
I don't think anyone can really be surprised that the DEA/American prosecutors have now requested extradition, its just the next step in the process. Canada and the United States have an extradition agreement with each other for their citizens who commit criminal offenses. The US government has extradited their citizens to Canada before, so it works both ways.
Emery as a Canadian citizen should be given the chance to apply to serve his time (that he plead to) in Canada, but first he must face extradition to the US.
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05-11-2010, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferra Given the fact that Meth is illegal and therefore unregulated, your argument is illogical.
It is easier for a 13-year old kid to get Meth than it is for him to get booze. Why? Because he'll get ID'd trying to buy Meth, but any dealer will sell him Meth if he has the cash.
REGULATED legalization is the real way of doing it if you really want to protect the "developing mind".
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A concern parent sees no difference between this argument and your argument. | Because there isn't. I dunno if you've gone down to main and hastnigs lately, but there are a lot of guys dressed relatively baller-ish hanging out at the edges of alleys. I very much doubt that they would turn anyone away with cash if they had it. It would not surprise me to know that there are highschooling meth-heads.
Also, you're quoting me a wee bit out of context. His concern was that legalization would equate to "you can walk into any store at any time and buy it", while I was saying that legalization is NOT tantamount to deregulated free markets--that the government would create legislations limiting posession/use to a certain age group etc etc.
I am not saying that I believe marijuana to be a completely harmless substance or that anyone should be allowed to smoke it at any time. I am saying that the laws should be reviewed and revised--it puzzles me just as much as it does many other people as to why alcohol is a completely legal substance despite countless studies and anecdotes of abuse and the miseries thereto--yet it is legal, and marijuana is not.
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05-11-2010, 03:31 PM
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#48 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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So it's illegal to sell marijuana seeds in the states but you can sell these seeds on Ebay? go figure.
We bought a house last year and there were some growing in the back yard.
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05-11-2010, 03:48 PM
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#49 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by Graeme S I am not saying that I believe marijuana to be a completely harmless substance or that anyone should be allowed to smoke it at any time. I am saying that the laws should be reviewed and revised--it puzzles me just as much as it does many other people as to why alcohol is a completely legal substance despite countless studies and anecdotes of abuse and the miseries thereto--yet it is legal, and marijuana is not. | Probably because alcohol (& tobacco) has been grandfathered-in into societal acceptance.
Although Marijuana is by no means modern; but society probably holds it modern enough to group it with the other drugs in cocaine, meth, etc. Or maybe modern only to the western societies.
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I am by no means supporting or condemning the cause. I really haven't put too much thought in where I sit on the issue as I really don't care.
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05-11-2010, 04:02 PM
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Legalizing has great political consequences. It's a hit or miss. If u succeed, u'll be down in history as the man who opened a new chapter in Canadian history. If u fail, u'll forever be known as the guy who destroyed Canada's integrity. It's a bold move and I think that's why most politicians are reluctant to make any changes to the existing laws. People generally don't like changes.
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