nutritional value and mr freeze really don't belong in the same sentence. it's like ordering the combo meal at mickey d's. not really a meal:p

type 2 diabetes is a new disease, and whats newer is that its now found in young children.
people crave these kinds of foods and its a problem!

cal is calories
Cal is kilocalories = kcal

They're a gateway drug.

Well just because you had good parents, doesn't mean we all did. And with so many people getting fatter and having more issues with metabolic syndrome and diabetes, it's clear that more and more parents are of the lazy variety.

And you're right, I did have a mom that fed me junk food all the time. That's why I am speaking from experience. I know you were expecting to insult me with that little quip...

The 'slippery slope fallacy' isn't fallacy at all, it's reality. It's more common with poorer families, but that's not exactly an excuse. But to deny reality is the biggest form of ignorance you could possibly have.

I'm glad you were raised eating good food (really, I am) but we're not talking about you in particular, or me. We're talking about the general public at large. Good parents, shitty parents, and all in between.

If you can continue the discussion without attempting to insult people, please do!

I sure do love me some g-force slurpees!

No from what you said, its definitely a slippery slope fallacy. Don't fail me because I'm right.

It goes like:
1. Event X has occurred (or might occur).
2. Therefore event Y will inevitably happen.

You said Freezies are terrible because they leads to McDonalds and Tim Hortons and pasta and potatoes!!:\

I had Freezies every year in the summer maybe 5-6 times in the summer at picnics etc as a treat. My parents never took me to McDonalds or Tim Hortons ever (thankfully.. I only went to those places on my own as a teen because everyone hungout/ate there :D)

So the problem therefore isn't Freezies, its shitty parenting. Indeed soft drinks are a much bigger problem.... and contribute far more to diabetes than Mr. Freezes. your time would probably be better spent on attacking them rather then Freezies... according to your logic it's far more child abusive to be drinking coke.

In today's society, freezies are treats. Coke/slurpies is a drink. KFC and Pizza Pockets and large orders of fries and gravy are meals. Big difference in consumption. Kids drink Mountain Dew like its fucking water. So again, the problem is not the Freezies, it's shitty parenting.

Regardless, interesting discussion thus far.

Tax incentives to learn cooking would be a good idea.

I believe that people can eat grains its just that too many people are eatting processed foods, out of a box and its ruining their health.

:facepalm:

I didn't say it "leads to" other junk food. I just said it all adds up. One day you might have one junk food, another day you have another junk food. Having occasional junk food every day is no longer 'once in a while' is it? Then you have all the other junk food that gets ingested when it's not considered junk food - pop, etc. Plus you have the unhealthy breakfasts and dinners people eat, and it adds up even more.

And yes, it's shitty parenting. That is my entire fucking point.

i think we are all to blame as a society. we demand cheap and fast. when those demands are met and we get a product that is tasty as well, it's pretty obvious why our health is slipping. that and the fact that the negative results of poor eating don't become obvious for most people until they hit their late 30s and 40s.