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Old 06-02-2010, 01:08 AM   #26
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Wow, an Asus laptop with a battery that has 3.36 times the capacity of the iPad (84Wh for the Asus vs 25Wh for the iPad) and it can run just as long.

That's some pretty fucking amazing efficiency there. And I suppose they're going to be able to fit this massive battery into a tablet no problem.
The Asus laptop is not running a Culv cpu. The Eee pad will have no optical drive and it will have a smaller screen meaning it will need a smaller battery.

Also the Eee pad CPU will be way faster than the snapdragon used in the Ipad mean it will be able to run more powerful apps.
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^lol he's mad.

Even if it's just RTS games, I still don't think it'll be able to handle anything current. There'll probably be "tablet" oriented games, like the ones we see for the iPad/iPhone.
Command and Conquer would be sweet.
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Shut the fuck up. You asked for an example and he fucking found you one. Then you decide to bitch about something else.
Reading comprehension much?

My original comment: You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Then people go on about CULV portables having 10 hour battery life.

Way to compare apples to oranges here. I asked for an example and you fell for it and made my point - you can't compare battery life of a laptop with a full-size battery to a tablet with a battery 1/2 to 1/3 the capacity.
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The Asus laptop is not running a Culv cpu. The Eee pad will have no optical drive and it will have a smaller screen meaning it will need a smaller battery.

Also the Eee pad CPU will be way faster than the snapdragon used in the Ipad mean it will be able to run more powerful apps.
I'm going to put on a CAI with a K&N on my car. Then I'm going to put on a turbo, some coilovers and low profile racing tires. Then my car will be as fast as a 911 Turbo.

I guess magazine/bench racing can also be applied to the computer/tech industry.
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Hoping this is going to come with 3G and reasonably light. Reasonably light meaning around 2lb.
I'd pick it up for sure!
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:12 AM   #31
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Reading comprehension much?

My original comment: You'll never have a fast Win 7 tablet and 10 hour battery life.

Then people go on about CULV portables having 10 hour battery life.
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Links? I'd love you to show me a 12" portable (or a few if you know of that many) that can last 10 hours while doing somehting useful.
Do you have trouble remembering what you post?


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Way to compare apples to oranges here. I asked for an example and you fell for it and made my point - you can't compare battery life of a laptop with a full-size battery to a tablet with a battery 1/2 to 1/3 the capacity.
Oh my, you're so clever! It was all a ruse to begin with! We ALL fell for it!
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^ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha

Can you say dreaming

Remember, HP already dropped their Slate because of poor performance with Win 7. What makes Asus think they can somehow "solve" the problems that caused HP to give up on Win 7?
Can you say FAN BOY?

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Can you say FAN BOY?

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As I've said in the other iPad thread (which you obviously never read), I'm strictly Windows for my PC's. I only own an iPhone as my current phone crapped out and I was eligible for an upgrade. I also wanted a iPod so I got the iPhone as it filled my needs.

My current rig is an i7 920, dual 5870 Radeons (watercooled) and dual Intel 80GB SSD's (which I built myself as I have been doing for years now). Main storage is provided by a Windows Home Server (that I also built) with 6TB of storage.

I will never own an Apple computer as the programs I need (engineering software) are not available on Mac.


But hey, feel free to make such comments as "suck Steve Jobs dick" which is the usual response by a person who can't come up with a logical argument.
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the programs I need (engineering software) are not available on Mac.
now this makes you a closet apple fan boy because you WISH
that your programs are availabe on Mac.

I do not know about building computers nor do I own a PC. I am using internet at the Fleetwood park community library (these are AMD sempron with an ugly green sticker). By the way is running windows XP and the mouse barely works due to hair and dirt on trackball. My logic is telling me that you have self-insecurity issues, hence the boasting of your super rig and your ability to read a news article and make critique.
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IMO since tegra2 on the 10 inch model is meant to compete with the ipad, since it uses a RISC processor. So it would make sense that the comparison between those 2 specifications would be be "apples to apples".

I would gladly give up some weight to run a core2 setup so multitasking is an option.

Although anything at this point is going to be speculation until it's actually released.
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that your programs are availabe on Mac.

I do not know about building computers nor do I own a PC. I am using internet at the Fleetwood park community library (these are AMD sempron with an ugly green sticker). By the way is running windows XP and the mouse barely works due to hair and dirt on trackball. My logic is telling me that you have self-insecurity issues, hence the boasting of your super rig and your ability to read a news article and make critique.
Since you admit to never building a rig this only shows you can't understand the point I'm making.

Anyone who builds their own PC's would be considered an enthusiast. And an enthusiaist would never buy a MAC as they know the cost of components and what's required to assemble a rig. You would also realize a MAC is way overpriced for what you get (take away the cost of components and you're paying a lot for MAC "style").


Funny how someone who defends something Apple makes is instantly labeled as a fanboy. You guys would make excellent businessman. You can develop a product and completely ignore the competition because "they suck". Don't bother opening up what they made to see what's inside. Don't ever pick one up and actually use it to see how it works. Never get the opinions of end users to see what they like and dislike about the competition. All if this is a waste of time, because the competition "sucks" and anything we make is going to be better in every single area, so why waste time looking at the competition?
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A funny picture as a response. What are you, 12?
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..Anyone who builds their own PC's would be considered an enthusiast. And an enthusiaist would never buy a MAC as they know the cost of components and what's required to assemble a rig. You would also realize a MAC is way overpriced for what you get (take away the cost of components and you're paying a lot for MAC "style")..
This has nothing to really do with the thread, just saying, I've built my own computers and worked as a tech before, and I own a Mac now as well. Shit is overpriced in every industry, look at automobile market. I can go buy a fully loaded F-150 in the 50's. Or a fully loaded Tundra in the mid 60's. Both are equally as capable as the next. One just has better resale value and fit & finish.

Back on topic, this Eeepad is running Windows CE7 right?
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A funny picture as a response. What are you, 12?
Seriously people are against you because you were way too dismissive of the tablet and any future ilterations of the tablet. Do I see the device becoming a full fledged laptop? Yeah, but not now. Yet stating that ASUS, who are known to make excellent portable computers, will fail because HP slate was such a fail is a erroneous and premature prediction of the future of the technology.
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^ I can dismiss current and future tablets because none of them are based on any new or revolutionary technology. Bottom line is every PC or tablet out there is built using the same components everyone else has access to. This is why virtually all PC's out there offer similar feature sets at similar price points.

No manufacturer has access to any single technology that gives them a huge advantage over other manufacturers. All they can do is offer a diffferent combination of available components to make their product fit a specific market.

In the automotive world there's a saying "Fast, Cheap, Reliable - Pick Two".

You could apply the same logic to tablets: Fast, Small, Battery Life - Pick Two.

If your tablet is small and fast it's going to have lousy battery life.
If your tablet is fast and has long battery life it won't be small.
If your tablet is small and has long battery life it won't be fast.

The last one is what Apple chose with the iPad. Long life, small size, but limited in performance. This was a choice their engineers made, not something they did because they are stupid and don't know how to make a faster tablet.


Of course, if any of the engieers in this thread has some inside technical information on the processor, screen, video and battery systems that Asus is using and how they have made them an order of magnitude better than current technology (to allow them to be much faster, and use much less power than everyone else), then I'll retract everything I've said.
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You forgot an important point - cost. A tablet can be small, fast, and long lasting, but you'll be paying out the ass for it. A lot of people here, with technologies currently available, could make a rough design of a tablet that would slay the fuck out of this one and the oversized itouchmyself, but it would be stupid expensive.

Personally, I'll take performance and size at a reasonable price, if you're carrying around something as large as a tablet it shouldn't be a big deal to toss a small charger in there too.
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If EEE-PC unveiled this 1.5mo's ago , it would've been a serious blow apple!!
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^I highly doubt that. I don't think it'd make a significant difference. They'd still be selling like hot cakes.
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You forgot an important point - cost. A tablet can be small, fast, and long lasting, but you'll be paying out the ass for it. A lot of people here, with technologies currently available, could make a rough design of a tablet that would slay the fuck out of this one and the oversized itouchmyself, but it would be stupid expensive.

Personally, I'll take performance and size at a reasonable price, if you're carrying around something as large as a tablet it shouldn't be a big deal to toss a small charger in there too.
I would love for someone to spec out a tablet: processor, graphics subsystem, display technology, battery and WiFi/3G. Then show me how much power their processor and so on will consume and how their battery will provide power for a 10 hour run time.

Using "technologies currently available".



So you'll carry around a charger with your performance tablet? Are you saying a long battery life is pointless since you can simply plug in when you need to?

Then why are we even arguing about run times when an AC outlet is always handy?
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ARM A9 w/ it also running the gfx, 3qi screen w/resistive touch, 5200 mAH battery, and whichever wireless off the shelf u want should probably net you 10 hours.

imo long battery life until you can get to a AC plug, which is 4 hours give or take. not 10 hours.
but then there is the question of charge time... Personally, 8 hours should be enough and what underscore said, it should be affordable.

I mean look at the Dell Streak, essentially something between an iphone and ipad, but it's got everything that I'm looking for but costs about 1000, where an ipad is what? 600? and can't really do much...in terms of video, multitask and other OS limitations.
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