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Old 06-17-2010, 07:04 PM   #1
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Secret Compartment in your Vehicle?

Common sense would tell me this is not legal but I am curious to know the specifics.
Anybody know the laws, rules, or regulations on having a secret compartment built into your car?

Lets agree this is not for anything bad... but say somebody had one built in because they had a couple bucks to spend and wanted to 007-out their car.
Normally it would work by pressing a specific sequence of buttons on your console for example: power+heater+window down.
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this would be good to hide valuables in your car (not illegal stuff) In my old car I was able to pop open a peice of the dash and hid my ipod or w/e in there.
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Exactly you can put anything valuble in there that you dont want to get stolen if your car is broken in to. If its illegal and youll be burned for having it, then what if you tell the officer (who pulled you over) that you have that compartment and even offer to show it.
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I wouldn't be crossing the border if you had one.... even if it were empty.
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Buy a Grand Caravan, it comes with secret compartments from the factory! Stow'n'Go FTW!
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Highlights of the act include:

· Enhancing public safety by prohibiting anyone from operating armoured vehicles, except by regulated exemption or with a permit for legitimate purposes.

· Prohibiting the after-market installation of compartments in vehicles unless exempt by regulation.

· Requiring individuals seeking an armoured vehicle operation permit to prove reasonable need and undergo a criminal record check.

· Individuals found in contravention of this act will face a fine of up to $10,000 and six months imprisonment, upon conviction.
Coming soon: An act requiring anyone wearing clothes with pockets to turn the pockets inside out while walking aound in public.
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i didn't think they would actually be able to pass that part of the act.

great now we have to worry about getting our car seized because a cop 'thinks' the factory belly pans conceal a hidden compartment.
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And yet it is still illegal to walk around in public while naked.
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Coming soon: An act requiring anyone wearing clothes with pockets to turn the pockets inside out while walking aound in public.
That would never withstand a Charter challenge. I doubt it will even be passed into law, although I suppose it's possible.

I don't see why you couldn't install a "secret compartment" in your vehicle so long as it didn't make the vehicle unsafe for you or the general public, or tamper with any factory-installed safety/operational equipment.

As someone else suggested, however, I wouldn't try to cross the border with one. I wouldn't even recommend installing one, as it'll probably cause more grief that good if you ever get pulled over. Even if you're just using it to store bubble gum and baseball cards, it certainly looks suspicious.
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"Prohibiting the after-market installation of compartments in vehicles unless exempt by regulation."

I certainly hope the actual legislation is more specific that that, otherwise my work van is in BIG trouble.
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Bill 14 has passed 3rd reading and the exact wording is being worked on now and will possibly be ready late this summer. This is intended to not let the Bacon's hide their guns and drug smuggler to hide their dope. It's not intended to prohibit a caravan owner for having the fold away seats. They are talking about aftermarket conversions. Already there are hundreds of places to hide drugs in anormal vehicle without modding it.
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I've seen some neat ones where the passanger front seat comes up with a stow away compartment underneath. These I saw actually in a demo car targetted for women as a safe place to stow thier purses and other often stold items in a convertable.

I guess that would be illegal as well under the new law.
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Just another step closer to stomping on peoples rights and freedoms, all the while telling them it’s to protect their rights and freedoms.

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Bill 14 has passed 3rd reading and the exact wording is being worked on now and will possibly be ready late this summer. This is intended to not let the Bacon's hide their guns and drug smuggler to hide their dope. It's not intended to prohibit a caravan owner for having the fold away seats. They are talking about aftermarket conversions. Already there are hundreds of places to hide drugs in anormal vehicle without modding it.
This is what I'm talking about: my work van is a basic Mazda MPV with equipment racks added, including a number of cubbies, parts drawers, and so on... in other words, aftermarket compartments. Which is why I say, I hope the wording of the legislation is a lot more specific than that summary above.
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This is what I'm talking about: my work van is a basic Mazda MPV with equipment racks added, including a number of cubbies, parts drawers, and so on... in other words, aftermarket compartments. Which is why I say, I hope the wording of the legislation is a lot more specific than that summary above.
I would imagine the hope is that most police officers know better than to harass an honest guy driving a work van, and will only use the law in circumstances where it's absolutely necessary. I'm sure a few cops will enforce the law to the letter, and some innocent dude in a work van will get screwed over. But I'm sure it'll be rarely enforced and easily overturned in court.
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I would imagine the hope is that most police officers know better than to harass an honest guy driving a work van, and will only use the law in circumstances where it's absolutely necessary. I'm sure a few cops will enforce the law to the letter, and some innocent dude in a work van will get screwed over. But I'm sure it'll be rarely enforced and easily overturned in court.


thing is police wont be able to tell if its an honest worker or a cover up.
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Bill 14 has passed 3rd reading and the exact wording is being worked on now and will possibly be ready late this summer. This is intended to not let the Bacon's hide their guns and drug smuggler to hide their dope. It's not intended to prohibit a caravan owner for having the fold away seats. They are talking about aftermarket conversions. Already there are hundreds of places to hide drugs in anormal vehicle without modding it.
I worry more about what it could be used against than what it was intended to do ...
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Haha, I totally missed the obvious. My bad.

I am always amazed at the attitude of "restricting me and monitoring me keeps me safe, so I’m okay with it!" when it comes to things like this.

I can see the argument, in my eyes though it takes it too far. Not only is that a really terrible wording (yes I understand they are working on it), but to push the idea that I cant modify something like the interior of something I own because it MAY allow me to hide something from the police is pretty unreasonable.

By the same idea, I can buy a farm, but if my farm doesn’t already have pigs on it I can’t buy any pigs, because I MAY kill some hookers and have the eaten by my live stock.

Yes, a ridiculous example, but certainly the same idea. Preventing someone who is not a criminal from doing something totally harmless because someone may be able to use it to do something illegal.

I want officers to be safe on the job, I dont want criminals like the bacon brothers to succeed in being able to hurt people without consequences, however where do we draw the line between guarding people and taking away personal rights and freedoms to do that?

By allowing people like the bacon brothers to change the way we live our lives, we have allowed them to win. Why should my rights be compromised because someone else has proven they can’t be trusted to have them?

Sorry, I just miss the days of common sense over heavy handed babysitting. Maybe I am in the minority?
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I would imagine the hope is that most police officers know better than to harass an honest guy driving a work van, and will only use the law in circumstances where it's absolutely necessary. I'm sure a few cops will enforce the law to the letter, and some innocent dude in a work van will get screwed over. But I'm sure it'll be rarely enforced and easily overturned in court.
I was once accused of stealin my work van. I was grabbin some tools out of my work van and placin them inside my work bag and saw cop lights come on. Police stepped out and asked me if the van was stolen, I said no and put my hands in my pocket to show him my work I'd and he freaked out and told me to put my hands in the air and step away from the car. Cop proceeds to pat me down and pull shit out of my pocket when he saw my work I'd and realized what a fuck up he made. Officer said he assumed the car was stolen cause recently there has been lots of reports as well as the fact I looked too young to be working for such a company.

Needless to say I was super pissed off and my attitude towards the officer turned pretty nasty afterwards.
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