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Old 06-30-2010, 04:34 PM   #1
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Automotive Design

I thought about getting into automotive design. I want to design the architecture and interior of cars. Does anyone know how to get into it, or know which schools that offers it? Do I just need a degree in industrial design, interior design, architecture, mechanical engineering, or automotive engineering technology? I couldn't find any institution in BC that offers it. Any help/ suggestion would be greatly appreciated
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Everything you need to know are here:

http://cardesignnews.com/site/home/
http://www.carbodydesign.com/

Spend a day and browse through the forums. There's plenty of pros and cons on which school and which country you would like to take an automotive design program. It also really depends on your ambition as in what kind of automotive designer you'd like to be as there are many principles within the automotive design sectors - interior designer, car body stylist, or manufacturing design engineer etc. The job market in the car design industry is surprisingly picking up despite the automotive industry's collapse last year.

As well, it all depends how much you're willing to invest. There are two routes, taking the cheap way and studying industrial design in Canada then taking a masters in Europe. The expensive way is taking it in either Detroit (CCS) or in Pasadena (Art Center) as both are the two top schools in the West with crazy expensive tuition. Both ways will land you a job at an OEM manufacturing design studio. There's a couple of members here that went to Art Center in California and took the 4 year automotive design program. I applied but declined their offer because of the daunting tuition (100,000+). I went to Emily Carr instead and studied half communications/industrial and received a bachelor's in design. However, I'm not in the automotive sector yet but I've settled doing industrial design work for a furniture manufacturer at the moment. Currently saving up to 'possibly' apply for a 2 year masters course in automotive design in IED Italy.
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oh dear... I have to pay for my own tuition and flight too.
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Great info!
I've always thought about getting into automotive design but didn't know where to start.
BTW your portfolio looks good!
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The guy who designed the 370z is from Surrey.
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The guy who designed the 370z is from Surrey.
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Sorry to thread jack, would a 'automotive engineer' have to go through the same stuff? I googled it and apparently Ontario tech is the only school in Canada that offers an automotive engineering program. Anyone here have any info on this?
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The guy who designed the 370z is from Surrey.
In the same vein the designer for Porsche 996 body style is from Hong Kong.

He rather not assc. himself to Hong Kong tho in an article I read about him...cheeky bastard forgetting his roots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_Lai
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I thought about getting into automotive design. I want to design the architecture and interior of cars.
Do you want to design cars so that you can make lots of money? Because there are other ways in making money and the chances of actually getting a job in car design will be 1 in 10,000 "designers" in my opinion.

If you want to design cars for a career, working for someone will restrict you in your pursuit as you'll have a boss and coworkers. Oh and your boss will have a boss too... the guys with the money in the company who will sign off on final designs. This means no matter how good you will be, your design and ideas will never be a finished product.

Here are a list of worthless links that will tell you to sketch, and sketch some more and guide you to where you should burn your money.
http://www.cardesignnews.com/site/ho...re4/item50380/
http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/...07/m/956109211
http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/...63/r/965100873

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i was thinking about getting into it but i thought not enough jobs
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Do you want to design cars so that you can make lots of money? Because there are other ways in making money and the chances of actually getting a job in car design will be 1 in 10,000 "designers" in my opinion.

If you want to design cars for a career, working for someone will restrict you in your pursuit as you'll have a boss and coworkers. Oh and your boss will have a boss too... the guys with the money in the company who will sign off on final designs. This means no matter how good you will be, your design and ideas will never be a finished product.

Here are a list of worthless links that will tell you to sketch, and sketch some more and guide you to where you should burn your money.
http://www.cardesignnews.com/site/ho...re4/item50380/
http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/...07/m/956109211
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In the same vein the designer for Porsche 996 body style is from Hong Kong.

He rather not assc. himself to Hong Kong tho in an article I read about him...cheeky bastard forgetting his roots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_Lai
Considering that he comes back to HK and the PRC very often, I doubt he has forgotten his root.

At the same time, he's been in Europe most of his life and his immediate family is in Germany, so HK is not exactly his "home" right now.
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How did i know arash would post in this thread....

And the guy who designed the 350z and 370z now lives in california i believe....
one of my friends is blood related to the guy.
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^ Randy Rodriguez taught me how to draw since I dated his sister and was close to the Rodriguez brothers. Hopefully I'll get a chance to work with him one day. He is a true cinderella story coming from Surrey and all.

Trying to get a gig in the automotive design industry is like trying to win the American Idol. It's extremely expensive and competitive. I didn't take the whole "Art Center" route to get into the industry but I'm slowly getting in touch with small private independent manufacturers to build my concepts to life.
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Do you want to design cars so that you can make lots of money? Because there are other ways in making money and the chances of actually getting a job in car design will be 1 in 10,000 "designers" in my opinion.

If you want to design cars for a career, working for someone will restrict you in your pursuit as you'll have a boss and coworkers. Oh and your boss will have a boss too... the guys with the money in the company who will sign off on final designs. This means no matter how good you will be, your design and ideas will never be a finished product.

Here are a list of worthless links that will tell you to sketch, and sketch some more and guide you to where you should burn your money.
http://www.cardesignnews.com/site/ho...re4/item50380/
http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/...07/m/956109211
http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/...63/r/965100873

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Do you want to design cars so that you can make lots of money? Because there are other ways in making money and the chances of actually getting a job in car design will be 1 in 10,000 "designers" in my opinion.

If you want to design cars for a career, working for someone will restrict you in your pursuit as you'll have a boss and coworkers. Oh and your boss will have a boss too... the guys with the money in the company who will sign off on final designs. This means no matter how good you will be, your design and ideas will never be a finished product.

Here are a list of worthless links that will tell you to sketch, and sketch some more and guide you to where you should burn your money.
http://www.cardesignnews.com/site/ho...re4/item50380/
http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/...07/m/956109211
http://forums.cardesignnews.com/eve/...63/r/965100873

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You keep making your curves in the cyber world and Ill make mine in the real world.
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The real world? Try a garage dumbass. You'll find your shit fibreglass body kit will cure faster, and you won't need a fan to keep the thing from catching fire.
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arash why dont you showcase your work by making a thread and posting REAL work that you've done instead of photoshopping a 300zx.
also make it a video of the vehicle going around 60km cause your unique "styling" probably falls off while driving over 15km
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not to or anything but at first glance I thought u posted a traffic accident picture? What exactly is going on in there?
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The real world? Try a garage dumbass. You'll find your shit fibreglass body kit will cure faster, and you won't need a fan to keep the thing from catching fire.
I have no income to put it in a garage, and I doubt it could ever catch on fire when its being cured outside. The fan (I use 3) is to sweep away glass particles while I cut and lay the cloth and to push resin fumes away.

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arash why dont you showcase your work by making a thread and posting REAL work that you've done instead of photoshopping a 300zx.
also make it a video of the vehicle going around 60km cause your unique "styling" probably falls off while driving over 15km
I would post my progress on that CarDesign forum if its possible but other then that there is no point. Also the kit isnt finished for me to bolt it on and drive around.

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not to or anything but at first glance I thought u posted a traffic accident picture? What exactly is going on in there?
To make my point, in that picture I show case the new fender curves I created as you can see it shimmering in the light... where the majority of car designers spend a lot of time doing the same on the computer but to only masturbate to it at the end.

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I have no income to put it in a garage, and I doubt it could ever catch on fire when its being cured outside. The fan (I use 3) is to sweep away glass particles while I cut and lay the cloth and to push resin fumes away.

I would post my progress on that CarDesign forum if its possible but other then that there is no point. Also the kit isnt finished for me to bolt it on and drive around.

To make my point, in that picture I show case the new fender curves I created as you can see it shimmering in the light... where the majority of car designers spend a lot of time doing the same on the computer but to only masturbate to it at the end.
Dude you got it all wrong. You're the kinda guy who likes to make fake body kits and shit because all you want is money. Good luck making replica bodies.
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