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asdfpic 07-02-2010 11:08 AM

Pointless? Headers
 
Hey everyone

what do you think of installing Megan SS headers if I currently have only a stock exhaust system?

will gains be minimal and not worth it?
i wont be getting a proper full exhaust anytime soon yet until i am done suspension so yea...

oh also the car is auto :D

header is around $175, how much do you guys think install will be? or easy DIY?

Thanks!!

http://www.jdmcarboy.com/images/02CivicSi-header.jpg

iambuRnz 07-02-2010 11:20 AM

save your money and get a proper one.

BMW135i 07-02-2010 11:31 AM

If i remember correctly the cat goes with the oem header too. You probably need a cat+flange + catback, if you gonna get megan ss 4-2-1 header.

freakshow 07-02-2010 11:34 AM

gains will be minimal, and it's not worth it.

asdfpic 07-02-2010 11:34 AM

"I do sadly drive an auto...
Can anyone fill me in why getting headers would be bad because of this?

It shifts your powerband towards high rpm, and with an auto you don't get to pick what part of the rev range you drive in. With an auto you spend the majority of your time south of 4k rpm, and all your new power will be north of that, and you can actually LOSE some low end grunt, which you'll miss with an auto. It would make you slower more of the time, which would suck."

can someone confirm??

AWDTurboLuvr 07-02-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfpic (Post 7013735)
"I do sadly drive an auto...
Can anyone fill me in why getting headers would be bad because of this?

It shifts your powerband towards high rpm, and with an auto you don't get to pick what part of the rev range you drive in. With an auto you spend the majority of your time south of 4k rpm, and all your new power will be north of that, and you can actually LOSE some low end grunt, which you'll miss with an auto. It would make you slower more of the time, which would suck."

can someone confirm??

It's a 4-2-1 header so it should give you gains in the lower rpm range and give up some power up top. I used to have a 4-1 straight piped header and it gave me more power up top but less torque down low, which was fine, since when you are racing, your in the upper rpm range anyways.

For city driving, 4-2-1 is good.

alex.w *// 07-02-2010 12:17 PM

had the same headers with auto too

noticed some low end torque. ie going up a hill.
would be louder, bigger pipes = more airflow

engine bay would have more heat though, since there is no heatshield

Mugen EvOlutioN 07-02-2010 12:30 PM

1. waste of money

2. car is an auto and gutless therefore zero gain

3. shorty header dont do squad

SpoonFit 07-02-2010 12:34 PM

GET IT, gives u mad VTAKK powa

hi-revs 07-02-2010 05:13 PM

LOL!

BEEB 07-03-2010 09:30 AM

For just $175, do it !

it will help even on a D15 engine. DD might hurt, but you'll love it when you step on it !

jpark 07-03-2010 09:41 AM

what kind of car is this for again?

asdfpic 07-03-2010 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEEB (Post 7014612)
For just $175, do it !

it will help even on a D15 engine. DD might hurt, but you'll love it when you step on it !

what do you mean by DD?


its for an acura 1.7 el

jpark 07-03-2010 09:54 AM

^daily driver/driving..

asdfpic 07-03-2010 10:01 AM

haha shit getting really mixed reviews on this

:nono:
1. waste of money
2. car is an auto and gutless therefore zero gain
3. shorty header dont do squad
4. DD might hurt
5. gains will be minimal, and it's not worth it.
6. save your money and get a proper one.

:thumbsup:
1. mad VTAKK powa :D
2. It's a 4-2-1 header so it should give you gains in the lower rpm range and give up some power up top.
3. For city driving, 4-2-1 is good.
4. noticed some low end torque. ie going up a hill.
5. would be louder, bigger pipes = more airflow

i guess for me the lower range is fairly important for DD,

so with your experience do you guys think lower rpm = gains or loss

XtC-604 07-03-2010 10:30 AM

i think theres no point in modding that 1.7EL

snowball 07-03-2010 11:46 AM

Don't kid yourself,

one of those disadvantages > all your advantages

Jegz 07-03-2010 12:14 PM

for an el..no point

BEEB 07-03-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asdfpic (Post 7014635)
what do you mean by DD?


its for an acura 1.7 el

I would still say do it !
The 1.7EL is a decent car to start and curl your mod bugs !
Better than spending the money on a spoon sticker or anodized wiper blades.

If you don't like it, just sell the headers for $100 and call it a day !

Close thread

mmmk 07-03-2010 02:00 PM

I'd say do it...gotta learn from experience before u move on to bigger and bad-er cars!

adambomb 07-03-2010 04:14 PM

Listen to the man in the ING Direct commercials...

Save your money!

TOS'd 07-03-2010 04:49 PM

Just buy an R8.

optiblue 07-03-2010 08:05 PM

do what you want to do~ you won't feel much of a difference though!

inv4zn 07-03-2010 10:22 PM

I think the majority of people (myself included) who ask for opinions on forums are going to do it regardless...lol

Opinions are opinions (some are worth a lot more than others..lol) but in the end its your car.

Is the car completely stock?

asdfpic 07-03-2010 10:32 PM

Aside from audio and rims the car is stock.

Just go some sides and a front lip for it.

And still researching on a proper suspension setup
So the right shocks and springs for a ride targeted at 70% comfort and 30% stiffer.
Also something with front dip because my front is almost an inch higher than the rear

Anyway my main reason I asked for opinions is to clarify if I would lose low rpm performance since it is a daily driver
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