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yeah this makes thors even worse of a counter to well micro'd mutas. Paired with the next patch siege tank nerf against light units, I hope people won't be complaining about op'd terrans endlessly.
Ive never seen anyone play a THORS only build. They usually have a bunch of marines as well so if you fly over the thors and theres marines under its still GG for the mutas
my friend went thors + dropships and I had mutas + lings + banelings.
shit.. his thors got destroyed when i used the fly over and stop trick on him.
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Originally Posted by OhSoGood
Ive never seen anyone play a THORS only build. They usually have a bunch of marines as well so if you fly over the thors and theres marines under its still GG for the mutas
you're right..
he had a few marines as well, and I had a few roaches.
but the number is so small compared to what we focused on.
Usually if the guy has so many marines and so many thors that and marines that they can become a problem for the mutas then obviously you haven't done enough to keep him down.
Mutas are the second fastest unit in the game and the fastest air unit, they're meant to harass and be annoying and if u can mass up enough during that harass then it'll be gg terrans. If you have a group of mutas you can easily exploit the slow terran mech, and if they're outside your base if you've just built a small muta harass army chances are you could get up a sizable ground army after ripping through the terran's supply line and forcing him to commit to missile turrets.
Also bioball it may be op'd for gold league players, but up in higher leagues there's plenty of ways to stop mm with medivacs in its tracks. With the new patch reducing the viability of siege tanks of course you'll be seeing more MM which can be countered. Banelings, forcefields, psi storm, collosi. Sure they can try to emp you with a ghost, but that comes down to micro. Is mm effective sure, but overpowered I wouldn't go that far. Marauders could maybe get their range lowered to 6 to reduce their effectiveness against other ground tier one units, just like how they reduced the void ray's range to 6 to match the marines so they couldn't be kited endlessly.
Last edited by turbomelon; 08-30-2010 at 12:04 AM.
I only know how to use Terran and it seems like no one here likes to build BC. Learned quite a bit here though, it just clicked in my head that I can lift off my CC and expand elsewhere.. lol
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they just happen to both be zerg ... so they 6 pool us ... how do we fight that = = i usually don't scout (i play zerg) until 10 supply ~ we actually fought off the first and second wave but suffered too much damage = gg
scout early, it'll hurt your economy a bit, and counter rush, or you could have 1 guy 6 pool and the other tech to roaches. Use your workers if they six pool and have your forces ready to move out keep watch on the watchtowers and throw down a spine crawler even. All depends on your micro of your harvesters, and adjusting your build to incorporate more early units as if you were rushing.
Another thing to note which maps are rush friendly and not rush friendly, on the latter maps you can usually afford to tech and if they do rush it'll be more of a timing push.
throw down a spine crawler right next to your spawning pool and hatchery. When the lings attack, get your drones to surround the other ends of the spine crawler so the lings can't attack it.
never tried this on dual 6 pool ling rush though...
lol easiest thing to do when dealing with a cannon rush is send your forces over to their base or build production facilities near their base with the scv you used to scout.
HOLY SHIT!! so many newbs cannon rushing cause they got no skill.
me and my friend played 2v2 (placement matches)
we got cannoned rushed in 3/5 games we played.
-first one (2nd game).. I mis-clicked the rally point (i was using the mini map) for my drone to scout my base, so I missed the probe when my friend told me the toss had only a forge. Luckily, I got my creep to keep the cannons away. We WON cause they only knew how to rush.
-second one (3rd game).. my partner got rushed.. and we LOST after 40 mins of trying to comeback. Appearantly, we lost to a bronze 2v2 team; however their other league records were platinum and gold.
-third one (4th game).. we spotted the probe making a pylon. We killed it and counter rushed. We WON cause they went all in with the cannon rush.
so we won 4/5 placement matches. The one we lost were to a fake 2v2 bronze league team.
Yet, we were still placed into Bronze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this bnet league setup is bs.
our next game (not placement anymore), we beat a team where one of the players was a diamond for one of his 2v2's.
this setup is messed.. There are newbs in the upper divisions, while we got put into bronze.
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