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taylor192 08-10-2010 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mkchoi0801 (Post 7062795)
instead of posting 4 times u could have made an effort to put them in one. so by ur logic u just got 4 fails instead of 1
Are you really that sad you need to nit-pick how I post rather than what I post?

taylor192 08-10-2010 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chinook79 (Post 7062807)
are you suggesting the driver should pay more attention to light turning yellow more than jaywalkers or other surrounding when you hit the intersection? what the hell is the point of having yellow light??
or are you suggesting that every intersection have same length of green light and you should be ready for yellow before hitting intersection?
To make smooth stop minute minute it hits yellow light, you'll have to slow down before hitting intersection to below speed limit. At speed of 50km/h, stopping distance would be about 35m on DRY asphalt. Are you suggesting that every single driver should slow down to 30km/h (stopping distance of 18m) before approaching to every single intersection with traffic light? To me, you sound a lot more retarded than the op.
I can see where "running yellow can be ticketed" argument/law is coming from. We are unfortunate to have too many idiot drivers who think yellow means speed up and make it past intersection. However, that does NOT mean that you can argue that you should be prepared for yellow light even before hitting intersection and stop in time second it hits yellow light.
Seriously WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING YELLOW LIGHT???
Isn't yellow light there to warn drivers to be ready for red?
He is suggesting you take a defensive driving course.

These courses teach you to cover your brake when approaching an intersection so you can stop if the light changes, and teach you techniques as CRS outlined to determine if the green is about to be yellow.

Now back to your point. The duration of a yellow light is set by the speed of the roadway so approaching cars have time to clear the intersection. Most officers understand this, if you're < 35m from the light and it turns yellow you're going through it. Its the drivers who are 50-100m from the light and make no attempt to stop that get the ticket.

zulutango 08-10-2010 02:47 PM
Not correct...actual stopping distance will be 23 metres , not 35 metres. Check this website. http://www.racemath.info/motionanden...p_distance.htm
Skilled drivers cover their brake pedals as they approach an intersection in anticipation of maybe having to stop. They also scan for signs like stale crosswalk lights that may show there is a chance they may have to stop.

If you choose to speed as you approach an intersection and accelerate even faster when the yellow appears, you are making the wrong choices. There is a good reason that the majority of crashes happen at intersections. Running a yellow is the same as running a red...unless it changes when you, driving at the speed limit or slower, in bad weather, cannot stop in time because you are too close.

mkchoi0801 08-10-2010 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7062839)
Are you really that sad you need to nit-pick how I post rather than what I post?
it doesn't seem like u have much to say either... i just replied to ur stupid post with an equally stupid comment, don't take it too personal.

taylor192 08-11-2010 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mkchoi0801 (Post 7063561)
it doesn't seem like u have much to say either... i just replied to ur stupid post with an equally stupid comment, don't take it too personal.
Mods, can you give him an infraction or 2. This section is supposed to be serious, not for ignorant idiots to make stupid comments.

Greenstoner 08-11-2010 10:24 AM
kind of a thread jack...

i never stop when i see a yellow or red if im going uphill during snowy condition (when its safe to do so)

if i stoppped and waited for the light, my car usually stuck in the middle of road and going nowhere.

any comments from the police for my action ?

jlenko 08-11-2010 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenstoner (Post 7063985)
i never stop when i see a yellow or red if im going uphill during snowy condition (when its safe to do so)
How about... get some snow tires, and learn to drive.

taylor192 08-11-2010 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 7063987)
How about... get some snow tires, and learn to drive.
x2

If you cannot stop and start on an uphill, I'd hate to see you stop on a downhill in the snow.

Greenstoner 08-11-2010 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 7063987)
How about... get some snow tires, and learn to drive.
im equipped with snow tires and even if i had to stopped on a light, i try to not let go the gas and just release it slowly


those side streets or smaller roadd are the worse because plow truck get to them last

taylor192 08-11-2010 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenstoner (Post 7064026)
im equipped with snow tires and even if i had to stopped on a light, i try to not let go the gas and just release it slowly

those side streets or smaller roadd are the worse because plow truck get to them last
It still doesn't change the fact you ran a light. If the conditions are so bad you cannot get going uphill, perhaps you should stay home, you're not going to beable to stop quickly downhill and then won't have a choice to run the light when it is "safe to do so".

Rich Sandor 08-11-2010 09:09 PM
as zulutango said, the ONLY time it's ok to run a yellow, is if you can't stop in time.

If you cannot stop because the light just happened to change then, the police should NOT give you a ticket.

If you had plenty of visual warning, but you chose not to stop, you should get the 'running a yellow light ticket'

If you could not stop because you were speeding, then you should get a speeding ticket.

If you were speeding, AND you had plenty of time to stop (but chose not to) then you should be getting BOTH tickets!!!!!

mkchoi0801 08-12-2010 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 7063890)
Mods, can you give him an infraction or 2. This section is supposed to be serious, not for ignorant idiots to make stupid comments.
haha really? how bout spewing some BS like 'there's no early yellow or late yellow' only to go on that good drivers know when the light is going to turn red. i'm just following along, you're just being dumb.

taylor192 08-12-2010 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mkchoi0801 (Post 7065320)
haha really? how bout spewing some BS like 'there's no early yellow or late yellow' only to go on that good drivers know when the light is going to turn red. i'm just following along, you're just being dumb.
You're not even following, or you would have read the post by zulutango, an officer if you hadn't figured that out, that says:

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Running a yellow is the same as running a red
or you might have read CRS explain how to determine if a green is stale and about to change.

Try to keep up kid before you earn a few infractions. You haven't been here very long, and judging by the number of fails, you might not be staying long either.

mkchoi0801 08-12-2010 12:07 PM
OK, so i'll explain, didn't think i had to.

It can't be possible that you're not allowed to run ANY yellow. Even if you're watching out (ie. looking at the pedestrian lights) you're bound to run some yellows, especially on roads that you're not familiar with, or roads with 60+ kph limit. That is an early yellow. A late yellow, you blatantly run because either you're in a hurry or you think it's ok to accelerate. See the difference? I have no clue why you mentioned there's no difference between the 2 yet you support the idea of other comments that oppose your argument. A yellow light is there as a warning, otherwise they'd just have green and red.

BTW, you've failed more than I have... is that how you wanna insult my reputation. It's just a website, chill out.

taylor192 08-12-2010 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mkchoi0801 (Post 7065543)
OK, so i'll explain, didn't think i had to.

It can't be possible that you're not allowed to run ANY yellow. Even if you're watching out (ie. looking at the pedestrian lights) you're bound to run some yellows, especially on roads that you're not familiar with, or roads with 60+ kph limit. That is an early yellow. A late yellow, you blatantly run because either you're in a hurry or you think it's ok to accelerate. See the difference? I have no clue why you mentioned there's no difference between the 2 yet you support the idea of other comments that oppose your argument. A yellow light is there as a warning, otherwise they'd just have green and red.
Oh boy keyboard warrior, if you're going to argue semantics you've picked the wrong member to engage.

Read his original post:
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I admit when I passed it was yellow but , it wasn't late in the yellow.
He admits running the light cause it was yellow, yet justifies it cause it was not a "late yellow". The argument has never been about someone who cannot stop in time cause the light just turned yellow, it is about people choosing to run the yellow based on how long it has been yellow.

He even goes on to explain how he should have tried to excuse his way out of it:

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should of jusyt told him I didn't see the light
If you cannot read between the lines, that means he could have stopped yet chose to go through the yellow. Why? cause it was a "late yellow" and his kids were late to MMA class. Duh.

Perhaps if you read and understood the OP's post you wouldn't be trying to argue semantics out of context.

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Originally Posted by mkchoi0801 (Post 7065543)
BTW, you've failed more than I have... is that how you wanna insult my reputation. It's just a website, chill out.
I don't need to insult your reputation, your thanks/fail speaks for itself.

It is a website, yet if you check many of the members actually meet up. You might want to reconsider that keyboard warrior before throwing out random insults.

mkchoi0801 08-12-2010 01:37 PM
Yah, so OP ran the yellow thinking that it was early enough. My argument still stands, you're excused to run early yellows, but shouldn't obnoxiously run a yellow that's about to turn red. You said there was no difference between the two, and I thought differently.


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