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alex.w *// 08-31-2010 11:43 PM

Obama declares end of US combat mission in Iraq
 
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WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama ended the U.S. combat mission in Iraq, declaring no victory after seven years of bloodshed, and telling Americans and the world: "It is time to turn the page."

From the Oval Office on Tuesday, where George W. Bush first announced the invasion that would come to define his presidency, Obama addressed millions who were divided over the war in his country and around the world. Fiercely opposed to the war from the start, he said the United States "has paid a huge price" to give Iraqis the chance to shape their future.

In a telling sign of the domestic troubles weighing on the United States and his own presidency, Obama turned much of the emphasis in a major war address to the dire rate of U.S. joblessness. He said the Iraq war had stripped America of money needed for its own prosperity, and he called for an economic commitment at home to rival the grit and purpose of a military campaign.

The speech, lasting slightly less than 20 minutes, was only his second address from the Oval Office. Obama looked directly into the TV camera, hands clasped in front of him on his desk, family photos and the U.S. and presidential flags behind him. His tone was sombre.

Even as he tries to cap one of the most divisive chapters in recent American history, Obama is escalating the conflict in Afghanistan. He pledged anew that the United States would keep up the fight in that war, the longest once since Vietnam.

In Iraq, for all the finality, the war is not over. More Americans probably will die. The country is plagued by violence and political instability, and Iraqis struggle with constant shortages of electricity and water.

Obama is keeping up to 50,000 troops in Iraq for support and counterterrorism training, and the last forces are not due to leave until the end of 2011 at the latest.

As the commander in chief over a war he opposed, Obama took pains to thank troops for their sacrifice but made clear he saw the moment more as a mistake ended than a mission accomplished. He spoke of strained relations with allies, anger at home and a "huge price" of the highest order.

The toll includes more than 4,400 U.S. troops dead and many more Iraqis, tens of thousands more Americans wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars spent.

To underscore his point of ending the divisiveness over Iraq, Obama said he had called Bush, whom he had taunted so often in the 2008 presidential campaign. He prominently praised the former Republican president in the heart of his speech.

"It's well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset," Obama said. "Yet no one could doubt President Bush's support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security."

In the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the Iraq war began with bipartisan congressional backing, based on what turned out to be flawed intelligence that Iraq was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.

Today, Iraq is in political turmoil, its leaders unable to form a new government long after March elections that left no clear winner. The uncertainty has created an opening for insurgents to pound Iraqi security forces, hardly the conditions the United States envisioned for this transition deadline, which Obama announced 18 months ago.

Obama pressed Iraq's leaders, saying it was time to show some urgency and be accountable.

At once, Obama sought to assure Americans that the war was finally winding down, and yet also promise Iraq and those watching across the Middle East that the U.S. was not simply walking away.

"Our combat mission is ending," he said, "but our commitment to Iraq's future is not."

The American public has largely moved on from the Iraq war. Almost forgotten is the intensity that defined the debate for much of the decade and drove people into streets in protest.

Yet what grew out of the war was something broader: Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive force against perceived threats. Running for office, Obama said the war inflamed anti-American sentiments and undermined U.S. standing in the world in addition to stealing the focus from Afghanistan.

He made mention of it again on Tuesday: "Indeed, one of the lessons of our effort in Iraq is that American influence around the world is not a function of military force alone."

Obama, though, also was presented with a tricky moment — standing firm in his position without disparaging the sacrifice and courage of those who fought.

Earlier in the day, at Fort Bliss, Texas, a post that has endured losses during the war, Obama tried to tell the stretched military that all the work and bloodshed in Iraq was not in vain. He asserted that because of the U.S. efforts in the Iraq war, "America is more secure."

Not everyone was ready to embrace the White House view of the day.

"Over the past several months, we've often heard about ending the war in Iraq but not much about winning the war in Iraq," said John Boehner, Republican leader in the House of Representatives.
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alex.w *// 08-31-2010 11:43 PM

whoop double post

rJZx 08-31-2010 11:46 PM

Lol lets just shrug off the whole iraq thing "It is time to turn the page."
and move on and lets hope that no one really looks back.

Meowjin 08-31-2010 11:51 PM

operation new dawn begins immediately

Nightwalker 08-31-2010 11:51 PM

There are still 50,000 troops in Iraq that are combat capable. If they're really leaving as well by the end of 2011, awesome news for our friends south of the border!

raygunpk 08-31-2010 11:55 PM

i bet obama is going to receive so much criticism for this.

J____ 09-01-2010 12:13 AM

what an epic shitstorm that war was. Bush fuked over the world, not just the US with this stupid war, and for what? A boost to him and his pop's ego? give me a break.

The_AK 09-01-2010 01:21 AM

Whats done is done, Iraq war is a sunk cost. Best option was to pull out. Whats there to gain by staying in?

Kingcong89 09-01-2010 01:26 AM

even though they're pulling out "combat troops" they're still sending other troops to replace them. they will still have weapons but it's a different mission. has a different name and everything lol.

CRS 09-01-2010 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by raygunpk (Post 7087928)
i bet obama is going to receive so much criticism for this.

Any political move or decision receives criticism. It just depends on which side of it you're on.

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Originally Posted by J____ (Post 7087941)
what an epic shitstorm that war was. Bush fuked over the world, not just the US with this stupid war, and for what? A boost to him and his pop's ego? give me a break.

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Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 7088002)
Whats done is done, Iraq war is a sunk cost. Best option was to pull out. Whats there to gain by staying in?

Despite the bad reputation that the US received by invading Iraq, the US has fundamentally asserted and claimed a significant portion of the natural resources in the Middle East. So say what you will but the US has insured that it will receive a depleting resource that other competing nations are vying for.

What is there to gain by staying? Not much anymore since it has established companies that will be staying long after the soldiers have left. And everyone knows that once the soldiers have left, the stories are gone. The world will turn a blind eye to the US companies staying since it would receive a backlash from the US government and a finger wag from its own country.

BNR32_Coupe 09-01-2010 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 7088006)
Any political move or decision receives criticism. It just depends on which side of it you're on.





Despite the bad reputation that the US received by invading Iraq, the US has fundamentally asserted and claimed a significant portion of the natural resources in the Middle East. So say what you will but the US has insured that it will receive a depleting resource that other competing nations are vying for.

What is there to gain by staying? Not much anymore since it has established companies that will be staying long after the soldiers have left. And everyone knows that once the soldiers have left, the stories are gone. The world will turn a blind eye to the US companies staying since it would receive a backlash from the US government and a finger wag from its own country.

Sadly, there's a lot of truth to your post
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Sgt_Koopa 09-01-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 7088006)
Any political move or decision receives criticism. It just depends on which side of it you're on.





Despite the bad reputation that the US received by invading Iraq, the US has fundamentally asserted and claimed a significant portion of the natural resources in the Middle East. So say what you will but the US has insured that it will receive a depleting resource that other competing nations are vying for.

What is there to gain by staying? Not much anymore since it has established companies that will be staying long after the soldiers have left. And everyone knows that once the soldiers have left, the stories are gone. The world will turn a blind eye to the US companies staying since it would receive a backlash from the US government and a finger wag from its own country.

That was pretty much the whole plan from the beginning. UN knew damn well there were no WMD's.

Lomac 09-01-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sgt_Koopa (Post 7088237)
That was pretty much the whole plan from the beginning. UN knew damn well there were no WMD's.

The UN couldn't do a whole lot about it anyway... not when the US has veto power.

UN > League of Nations... but it's not much better.

Vansterdam 09-01-2010 08:05 PM

next target : IRAN

TomBox_N 09-01-2010 09:12 PM

Less war is alway good for mankind.
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spoon.ek9 09-02-2010 09:13 AM

honestly, it's about fuckin time. WMD's my ass. i applaud this decision by obama!

CRS 09-02-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBox_N (Post 7088981)
Less war is alway good for mankind.
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Less greed is always better too but that is never the case.

twitchyzero 09-02-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBox_N (Post 7088981)
Less war is alway good for mankind.
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technological advancements are far greater during war-time.

bloodmack 09-02-2010 09:45 AM

If it wasn't for war, we wouldn't have many of the technological advances we have today, but at the same time we have to question if the sacrifices justify the means. Especially in the Iraq war.

1BADMR2 09-02-2010 04:55 PM

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CorneringArtist 09-02-2010 05:47 PM

This shit is gonna be like Vietnam in terms of who won or not unless the main objective of the invasion was accomplished. Americans firmly believe they won in 'Nam, yet Vietnam is still communist to this day, even though the original objective back then was to prevent it. I can see the rednecks blindly defending that the US won in Iraq ONLY using the amount of casualties inflicted

Personally, I thought this was a complete waste in terms of money and lives. By invading Iraq, George W. Bush only reinforced the fact that he's the world's greatest retard. At least it's over now, and some technological advancement has been gained out of all this.

cressydrift 09-02-2010 07:41 PM

Look what happens when a few planes get hijacked! The mission should have been over in the first fucking month with Americas fire power.

Now to finish taking all the minerals from Afghanistan, and controlling the supply of narcotics and that will pretty much finish operation "rape".

Osama Bin Ladden?

hchang 09-02-2010 07:43 PM

So it seems like unlike Bush, Obama chooses to "pull out" :troll:

Great68 09-02-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1BADMR2 (Post 7089905)
I find it was a waste of money and blood which is quite sad all due to their indifferences of religion, pride and fear that Iraq is still not a fully running nation. But then again the USA still has a hard on for crude oil and the greed of money so they are stagnet.
It will be sometime before they (US gov't) will look and invest into new technologies or different resources because it is still run by very powerful and rich businesses. (ie: The death of the electric car)

More and more I'm starting to believe that the U.S.A. is the real terrorist of the world.

satek 09-02-2010 07:46 PM

Save the gas that is still left in Iraq.


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