I get a prize right?

:)

most phones with 480 x 320 screens have to be held at up to 2 feet away before a person with average vision can no longer differentiate the pixels of the display.

Closest distance for pixel perception with average* vision:
iPhone 4 - 10.43"
Droid - 12.99"
Droid X: 15.10"
HTC EVO - 15.85"
iPhone 3Gs -20.86"

So if the average viewing distance for a normal user is at about 18'' doesn't it mean that the IPhone 4 have a slightly better screen and isn't as magical as all you guys say? I have never said that the iphone 4 screen isn't better, I did said i was unimpressed by the screen due to the huge hype around it. Is it wrong to be underwhelmed by something? Is it wrong to have an opinion? I guess it is here.

wow i didnt realize this conversation went on with so much more...

of course if you blow the image up and stick it close to your face the image will be sharper...

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT you wont notice a big difference if at all unless you did ( but having seen pics finally i can see how the retina display has improved over the 3gs but it doesnt look like something people should be praying to and throwing on a pedestal)



anyhow Nokia just announced their new displays use "ClearBlack"

and Endgadget decided to do a quick side by side


http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/n...-retina-fight/

using the Nokia E7 and Iphone 4 (the E7 has 640x360 on a 4" screen)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....1284463236.jpg


id like to see a side by side with the Nokia N8 which is also 3.5" (like the iphone4) with a CBD screen

Noob query coming up.

I'm totally not into this sort of stuff but my GF is and she wants a 32gig Ipod Touch 4 (?). She said she wants to get it on her own since it's kind of pricey but it beats actually looking for a gift for her upcoming birthday.

Can you guys suggest either something better or where the best place to buy this would be (customer service/warranty)? Mostly going to be used for music, games and internet (I guess where wifi is available?)

Thanks

People who can't see the difference need to get their eyes checked. I now know this as fact after showing my iPhone to co-workers and noticing a very interesting coincidence.

I work on cars. Often we need to try and find a part number off a part that came off the car. The number is often stamped into a piece of metal, and after time goes by the numbers get rubbed off or covered in rust. Usually you try to clean the part to make the numbers more visible. And then the inevitable happens: the guys at work who can't make out the part number always bring it to me (or other co-workers) to try and read the number.

Well, the exact same people who have troubling reading fine print at work are the same ones who looked at my iPhone and didn't notice any difference. The people who are always getting asked "hey can you read what this says" are the ones who noticed the difference right away.


Sorry to shit on you guys who can't see the difference, but the fact is your eyes aren't as good. I'd put hard cash in a bet that standing in front of an eye chart the people who see a difference are also the ones who can read further down the chart than the ones who can't.

If you have an iPhone 4 handy, go to www.apple.com/ca/iphone. It might also still be in the bookmarks. Now go to the bottom of the page where there are 4 small text areas with pictures under them. See if you can read them without zooming or altering the page in any way. I, for one, can read them without having to squint or hold the phone 2" from my face. I can also read all the menu buttons on the top of the page. On my 3G this is impossible no matter how close I get to the screen. I can barely make out the bold faced titles, let alone trying to read the actual fuzz errr text.

No half-blind motherfucker is going to tell me there's no difference. Keep living in denial.

There's a difference. I've seen the new iPhone before and it's clearer and sharper compared to my friend's 3GS held at the same distance.

Whoever doesn't see one or denies it is either blind or a fucking idiot.

End of discussion.

again you guys are confusing resolution for better image quality and that's just not so there are many other factors even Sharpness isn't dependent solely on resolution

what it sounds like is you guys are just fanboys getting a rager (for no reason) no1 is saying the iphone4 screen sucks it is an improvement all im saying is its more than likely not the resolution


here's a really boring technical article you can read if you want http://www-personal.acfr.usyd.edu.au...hris_tisse.pdf

http://www.normankoren.com/Tutorials/MTF.html

there's a tonne of articles but i cant really find one short to the point other than that "distance, resolution, screen size" image i asked you guys to google



Here use this calculator (its what real theatre experts use)

Direct Link found on this page http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/...ter-calculator if you want to read about it

Input the specs of the Iphone 4 (960x640 500 lumens@max brightness) and it will tell you that you need to have the phone at MAX 5" to meet THX Specs; 10" for "Visual Acuity" from your face if you have 20/20 vision (Yes you can input your lvl of eyesight into the calculator) to be able to discern the RESOLUTION and yes if you had say 20/10 vision you would be able to discern the resolution benefits further away for Visual Acuity it would extend to 21.8" (much closer than an "arms length" unless you were a midget) having said this though i'll re-iterate resolution ≠ quality

they need to make the next iphone same size as the ipod touch...thinner and smaller. its coming, i knnows it. the new samsung tab looks pretty sweet, alot smaller (bulky) than the ipad plus its a fricken phone too. same resolution as iphone 4. imagine putting this thing up to your face haha

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p100...tures-3370.php