BCIT Financial Management

[Euro7r]

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

If you're looking to get into accounting (really more bookkeeping) without experience I would start looking for a clerking position. Particular accounts receivables is a good place to start with little or no experience. That's how I got into my potion. I started as an AR clerk, then moved into AP and then human resources and payroll. Now I do full cycle accounting for a small business and am working on going back to school to eventually get a designation.

It's the long route but you end up with a pretty well grounded in practical experience while getting paid better then your average intro position. And you will know if you're a good fit for it before you invest a bunch of time and money into going to school.

A lot of entry level job openings even demand 1-2 years experience. Don't even know how I am going to get this experience, for them to even consider. I guess volunteer is one route.

[TheNewGirl]

They say they do but you can get around it. APPLY APPLY. APPLY. Especially to places where you have room for advancement, large centers, while soul killing in may ways, are handy for this.

If you're job hunting I also highly recommend getting involved with a job club like Theo - it sounds lame but they have case workers that will do a lot of the leg work in your job search for you and help you with your front pages and resume to target your job search better. The case workers often have access to job lists and data banks the average person does not. They'll also coach you on cold calling and other methods of job search that work far far better then the classifieds.

Usually you need to go to a company like RDK and they'll refer you to a job search program that works for your needs. Some are good, some are bad. Personally I had fantastic experiences and my case worker found me the exact job I wanted at the time.

You can also look at companies like H&R Block, they intake untrained people, or people with minimal data entry experience and hire them on during tax season to do income taxes and such. It's really glorified data entry BUT it's at least dealing with money and there's your foot in the door, or at least some experience to add to your resume.

When I'm hiring clerks I look for people with data entry experience because I know they can handle the tedium of inputting invoices and have an eye for accuracy. The rest can be taught but those things are most important to me. A lot of people do NOT have the patience for plugging info into a comp all day and reviewing reports.

[Euro7r]

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

They say they do but you can get around it. APPLY APPLY. APPLY. Especially to places where you have room for advancement, large centers, while soul killing in may ways, are handy for this.

If you're job hunting I also highly recommend getting involved with a job club like Theo - it sounds lame but they have case workers that will do a lot of the leg work in your job search for you and help you with your front pages and resume to target your job search better. The case workers often have access to job lists and data banks the average person does not. They'll also coach you on cold calling and other methods of job search that work far far better then the classifieds.

Usually you need to go to a company like RDK and they'll refer you to a job search program that works for your needs. Some are good, some are bad. Personally I had fantastic experiences and my case worker found me the exact job I wanted at the time.

You can also look at companies like H&R Block, they intake untrained people, or people with minimal data entry experience and hire them on during tax season to do income taxes and such. It's really glorified data entry BUT it's at least dealing with money and there's your foot in the door, or at least some experience to add to your resume.

When I'm hiring clerks I look for people with data entry experience because I know they can handle the tedium of inputting invoices and have an eye for accuracy. The rest can be taught but those things are most important to me. A lot of people do NOT have the patience for plugging info into a comp all day and reviewing reports.

Thanks for the feedback. Most of the time I see a job posting that interests me, but I don't bother applying because they ask for 1-2 years of experience which I don't have. Therefore, I don't feel there is a point in applying since they probably wouldn't consider me due to the fact, not many companies would want to train someone from bottom up.

[!Nhan]

Originally Posted by dhari

^ i only have a diploma from bcit. thats way less schooling than a BBA

An exit requirement for the CGA is a degree so eventually you will have to complete that and in the end it will be the same amount of time spent at school

[dhari]

Originally Posted by !Nhan

An exit requirement for the CGA is a degree so eventually you will have to complete that and in the end it will be the same amount of time spent at school

agreed
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[UnDeadMage]

so when im done the fin man program at bcit, would getting a CA designation be the same as CGA practically?

[!Nhan]

Originally Posted by UnDeadMage

so when im done the fin man program at bcit, would getting a CA designation be the same as CGA practically?

You need a degree before you can even hand in your CACEE. CA is a harder designation to get IMO and a lot of it comes from standing out from the rest of the pack at networking events.

[Nhat]

Originally Posted by !Nhan

You need a degree before you can even hand in your CACEE. CA is a harder designation to get IMO and a lot of it comes from standing out from the rest of the pack at networking events.

wow its like you just came out of a cram session or something. You know so much

[Gt-R R34]

naw, you don't need a degree to hand in your CACEE form,
but you do need to be in university, and not BCIT.

CACEE forms can be done while you're in university, but with the prior correct pre-reqs.

To get the CA, it's 5000? i forgot the hours, 6 mods, and the UVE. exams, even if you fast track it. it's roughly 3years.

And No. Chartered Accountants can't not get in via. BCIT.

if you do DAP, when you have a degree, then !Nhan is correct, you need the degree first.

EDIT: on a side note, you need a CA qualified AC firm for you to even have the chance to get the degree. If the company isn't CA, you can't get CA.

Chartered Accountants is recognized in most developed countries. Hence why it is more stringent and more involved.

CGA is Canada only.

[!Nhan]

Originally Posted by Gt-R R34

naw, you don't need a degree to hand in your CACEE form,
but you do need to be in university, and not BCIT.

CACEE forms can be done while you're in university, but with the prior correct pre-reqs.

To get the CA, it's 5000? i forgot the hours, 6 mods, and the UVE. exams, even if you fast track it. it's roughly 3years.

And No. Chartered Accountants can't not get in via. BCIT.

if you do DAP, when you have a degree, then !Nhan is correct, you need the degree first.

EDIT: on a side note, you need a CA qualified AC firm for you to even have the chance to get the degree. If the company isn't CA, you can't get CA.

Chartered Accountants is recognized in most developed countries. Hence why it is more stringent and more involved.

CGA is Canada only.

You can be a grad or attending BCIT to hand in your CACEE forms. You can't seriously think that if you go to BCIT you can't become a CA do you? Consider the fact that CA has a cram session at BCIT over a "university" like Douglas or Capilano. Also the fact that BCIT hosts a meet and greet night with CA and CA firms from the lower mainland. I think you should rethink that idea that you need to be in a university to become or hand in your CACEE instead of being at BCIT

The CGA is also recognized in places like Australia and the UK I believe

[Gt-R R34]

let me re-phrase that, the wording isn't specifically what i wanted to say. If you go to BCIT for a diploma, unless you going to a degree you won't be able to become a CA.
Therefore you can't in essence do your CACEE form with a margin of success. In essence, University will always be better then BCIT for this instance. And don't tell me, i'm bias, I have taken a couple of courses for work @ BCIT right now and it's a great school.

Yes BCIT has a meet and greet with CA firms but they're for all the Bachelor of Tech Degree in Accounting, therefore a degree.

I should apologize, I'm pretty old school. Unlike you youngings.

When i went to school: BCIT = Diploma/Trade. U = Degree.

[1XTC]

i would do my degree at ubc because i am bored of bcit's surroundings

[Purely]

What is the difference between part time and full time? I am kind of interested in finance, and it seems like part time is the only option.