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Old 09-07-2010, 09:17 PM   #1
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BC Ferries - Why so late?

So this is my 3rd ferry ride this week, and BC ferries has been consistently late. What the hell is with this, this is terrible. I pay through the throat for this and they keep on not being on schedule. Not cooooooool
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Can't say I've ever seen a Ferry more than 10 or so minutes late.

All it takes is one half hour window of rough seas to slow one sailing down and then the rest of the day's schedule is behind. It's not like they sail through a sheltered bay, remember.
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It's BC Ferries.

Why so early?
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Can't say I've ever seen a Ferry more than 10 or so minutes late.
You don't ride the ferries enough...
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what other choice that isnt more expensive do we have?

they know it.
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So this is my 3rd ferry ride this week, and BC ferries has been consistently late. What the hell is with this, this is terrible. I pay through the throat for this and they keep on not being on schedule. Not cooooooool
BC ferries cannot control the weather, or all the thousands of other things which may happen on open water that can potentially affect their schedules...

I used to get upset when they were late too... But I suggest you do as I have done and deal with it.
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what other choice that isnt more expensive do we have?

they know it.
The money they lost on the FastCats would've payed for a series of bridges.
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The money they lost on the FastCats would've payed for a series of bridges.
The only area feasible to put a bridge across is in the north island, which would not help anyone travelling to Victoria from the mainland....

Also your statement would be quite incorrect. Consider this:

Cost of Fast Ferry program for all three ships: $460 Million

Cost of Golden Ears Bridge: $808 Million

New Port Mann Bridge: $2.3 BILLION


So maybe they could get half a bridge out of the fast cat program.
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Here's an explanation from BC Ferries for the reason why delays may occur.

http://www.bcferries.com/schedules/On_Time.html/

And if you're really worked up about it, you can see a daily log of actual departure times vs scheduled departure times and if there is a delay, it will tell you why the delay was caused.

Here's today's log for the Van/Vic route for example:

http://orca.bcferries.com:8080/cc/co...t=TSA&route=01
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do u realize bc ferry assist in rescue calls as well? maybe thats why they are late. they respond to a lot of these mayday calls.
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The only area feasible to put a bridge across is in the north island, which would not help anyone travelling to Victoria from the mainland....

Also your statement would be quite incorrect. Consider this:...........
You're right as I wrote in haste but considering even 1/4 of the project was payed for and the rest through tolls, IMO it would still be worthwhile.
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You're right as I wrote in haste but considering even 1/4 of the project was payed for and the rest through tolls, IMO it would still be worthwhile.
I wouldn't consider replacing a 1.5 hour ferry ride with a 5-6 hour drive worthwhile (That is if your destination is Victoria).
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You don't ride the ferries enough...


Nope, and I like it that way. If I do have to take the ferries, I try to catch the first or second sailing in the morning, just so I don't have to deal with the delays.
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The only area feasible to put a bridge across is in the north island, which would not help anyone travelling to Victoria from the mainland....

Also your statement would be quite incorrect. Consider this:

Cost of Fast Ferry program for all three ships: $460 Million

Cost of Golden Ears Bridge: $808 Million

New Port Mann Bridge: $2.3 BILLION


So maybe they could get half a bridge out of the fast cat program.
rofl, i got burned pretty bad thinking about building a bridge before.

my friends made it pretty simple.

say the bridge costs 800 million to build. that bridge's length is only ~1/100th the distance that damn ferry travels. gg.
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BC Ferries is a gong show.

I could make a list a mile long about all the crap that happens at BC Ferries.

A bridge would cost at least 8 to 12 billion and would be one of the longest in the world.

Government study on a bridge:

http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/publications...fixed_link.htm
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wow thats a great link

the number earthquakes would squash the idea of bridges...

better just put that money into R&D for a matter energy transporter..

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from manics link....

In addition to the possibility of earthquakes, there are other engineering challenges to any fixed link across Georgia Strait. These include:

* length of a crossing could be up to 26 kilometres
* water depths are up to 365 metres
* deep, soft sediments of up to 450 metres on the ocean bed
* potential marine slope instabilities along the eastern side of the Strait could result in future underwater landslides
* extreme wave conditions (4 to 7 metre waves, with 6 metre tides and 2 knot current)
* design wind speed of 115 kmh with gusts up to 180 kmh
* passage of major ships through the area; and
* the need to protect a crossing structure against ship impact (a floating bridge could not withstand the impact of a tanker vessel).


A fixed bridge across Georgia Strait would also be subject to snow, ice and fog conditions that could make driving hazardous.

Any fixed link across Georgia Strait would pass through or over high use navigation channels. Currently 45,000 vessels pass through these waters each year, including pleasure craft, commercial vessels and military vessels. A fixed link would potentially require two channels, each a minimum of 200 metres wide by 65 metres high to accommodate current and future vessel needs.
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Hmmm... maybe BCFerries will come up with the great idea of Fast Ferries
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we definitely could use some of those.
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i liked the workstations to plug in laptops and wifi(slow-fi) on the ferries...
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laziness is positively proportional to overpaid, unionized employees..hence the poor punctuality. Unless there's some weather concerns for delaying the departure of a ship or they are simply waiting for the ship to be filled a bit more.
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