Gave my 300zx a nose job

[underscore]

Originally Posted by jpark

^u serious!? i think bug eye subbies are incredible!

Very serious, I think everything looks great on them EXCEPT the bugeyes themselves. freakin hideous IMO.

[FerrariEnzo]

Originally Posted by underscore

Very serious, I think everything looks great on them EXCEPT the bugeyes themselves. freakin hideous IMO.

only the headlights.. the rest of the car is nice..

[Kim Jong Un]

Originally Posted by Arash

Even if it was out of paper mache does that make the design not good enough for you?


In reference to the animal pictures, in the automobile design world, cars have faces, means ones and happy ones... I've chosen to go with a happy one.

Why didn't you go with this one?

[Arash]

The kit on the grass?, that's whats on the car now.

Originally Posted by underscore

Under 50k? Toyota MR2 (All gens); Nissan Skyline GTR (R32); Nissan 350z; Subaru STi (all but the bugeye); Datsun 240z (hell any Z car); Infiniti G35; Toyota Celica (7th gen), etc etc etc. All very unique looking cars to anyone who is any kind of car enthusiast.

I should first say that a cars looks and over all body shape is what is important to me over any performance engineering.


Toyota MR2 - Its too small of a car, like a toy and where would you fit any bags. Also the curves on the car are very late 90's
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0076_large.jpg

Toyota MR2 - Looks like a bug or frog of sorts, small enough to be a chick car... no offense ladies


Nissan Skyline GTR - all versions are too boxy for a sports car, put an NSX to any GTR and it will put it to shame. My mother owns a NIssan 240sx (s14) and I dont feel like Im in a sports car at all.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/1178...-Acura-NSX.jpg

Nissan 350z - it has a very dull design and the front bonnet is too chunky... this car and Supra's front end look like they've been poop'ed out. No offense to Supra owners, there great cars.

Supra
http://www.automobile.com/images/sto...5a05d7bc66.jpg

350z
http://www.madwhips.com/upload/image..._1-568-426.jpg

Subaru's Look like riced up GM cars to me, nothing special at all with these boxes.

240Z - Ferrari design clone, the Ferrari looks great, this design is great if you like replica's jk, I love the design but the car would need lots of work to make it a grand tourer like the ZX is.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_aqdJkNjP_iM/TI...lIGAdY/fgg.jpg

Infiniti G35This rounded Skyline again will look like a sedan next to the NSX, and there are lots of them in town like the newer shape BMW's. Other then that I like them.

Toyota Celica This car tries too hard to look sporty, I wouldnt be proud to step out of my Celica to pickup a date. Like the Integra I photoshop-ed in my photo album, the Celica has lots of great potential and is one of the cars that I would consider building a kit around, just look at the Super GT kit someone made for it.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

For me, bugeye WAGONS are my favorite. It's probably gonna be my next car.

We all have different tastes, if we all bought the same style of cars that would make for a boring world.

Originally Posted by The_AK

just looks weird with updated front end but everything else the same...

Perhaps knowing that its a 300zx underneath is the main reason but I will be looking to add a widebody in the future, one that will reshape the windows too.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_aqdJkNjP_iM/TI...ElfXMk/003.jpg

[CorneringArtist]

Originally Posted by Arash

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We all have different tastes, if we all bought the same style of cars that would make for a boring world.

Way to state the obvious there bud. But to put aesthetics before performance is a bit naive, even though I did it when I was younger. You're simply nitpicking the cars that underscore posted based entirely on looks, yet the performance potential on all those cars can be easily discussed. There are cookie-cutter cars out there, but the RS meet was a prime example of personal taste and style for similar cars.

I can see where you're trying to go with this, but it's a little too much for my taste. Redesigning a front end from scratch takes work, but it's a bit wasteful considering that I have no issue with the 300ZX front end. GabAlmighty nailed it for me, facelifts work for some cars, but for this one, I don't like it at all.

Prime example of when facelifts don't work.

[satek]

It hurts to see what you've done to the 300zx

[Arash]

edit;
You can buy it for the right price and make it stock again

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

Way to state the obvious there bud. But to put aesthetics before performance is a bit naive, even though I did it when I was younger. You're simply nitpicking the cars that underscore posted based entirely on looks, yet the performance potential on all those cars can be easily discussed. There are cookie-cutter cars out there, but the RS meet was a prime example of personal taste and style for similar cars.

I can see where you're trying to go with this, but it's a little too much for my taste. Redesigning a front end from scratch takes work, but it's a bit wasteful considering that I have no issue with the 300ZX front end. GabAlmighty nailed it for me, facelifts work for some cars, but for this one, I don't like it at all.

Prime example of when facelifts don't work.
http://a.imageshack.us/img168/665/n5...4413554609.jpg

With enough money one can make an electric powered Del Sol be the fastest car in this province... or I can put a composite chassis in my 300zx and push 700rwhp and beat most of the new exotics produced today.
I think looks should come first and one can alway upgrade his or her suspension and horse power when its needed.

[jstn86]

[Paul Walker] sounds like you really know your automotive design..

you should be at MIT or something[/Paul Walker]

your craftmanship and you dedication... gotta give you props for sure.

but as for your taste and design...? not my cup of tea

i personally think z32 300zx's look awesome just the way it is.

the design is very traditional 90's. so obviously it will look outdated right now.

the photoshopped rear end might help but you need to change the design on the door and a-c pillars as well.

otherwise it's going to look exactly like those japanese mistuoka kit cars.







and btw, i'm not actually 12. and even if i was, i would never tell my parents to buy a ugly kit car from you. no offense... rather spend my $50000 on a better looking, non hacked/butchered car from the factory

[CorneringArtist]

Originally Posted by Arash

With enough money I can make an electric powered Del Sol be the fastest car in this province... with enough money I can put a composite chassis in my 300zx and push 700rwhp and beat most of the new exotics produced today.
I think looks should come first and one can alway upgrade his or her suspension and horse power when its needed.

Suspension/wheel upgrades are one of the FIRST things most people do their cars. It's the starting point for getting the right stance of a car (as far as that's concerned anyways), stock bodied or not. Yeah, you have an awesome bodykit, but what's the point if you're running 4x4 ride height and stock wheels? The Hall of Shame can prove my point on that. Mild upgrades are always available.

For "affordable" cars, I'd post up something like the Toyota M/JZX-chassis (ie. Chaser, Mark II-see classifieds for an example), but you're probably gonna nitpick the fact that it's a boxy sedan, despite having a 1JZ motor.

[Arash]

In my case, my Zed is stock height, it looks okay to me.
Sexy curved cars were being made in the late 70's, this Ferrari modified kit is sexier then 90% of the cars in Vancouver!

Originally Posted by jstn86

the design is very traditional 90's. so obviously it will look outdated right now.
......

the photoshopped rear end might help but you need to change the design on the door and a-c pillars as well.

The Zed is a beautiful car, the newer bumper makes it more modern too but I think infusing this Aston wide body would make it really modern and spectacular. I will be looking to make this set of kit for next year
http://drivenauthority.com/kip/super3.jpg

Originally Posted by jstn86

and btw, i'm not actually 12. and even if i was, i would never tell my parents to buy a ugly kit car from you. no offense... rather spend my $50000 on a better looking, non hacked/butchered car from the factory

You can pickup a Zed for 5k and buy my ~3k kit and still impress your grownup friends... even if you like the cars looks or not


edit, thanks for the compliments

[DiiCii]

wouldn't it turn to mush in the rain lol

[Arash]

Its all fiberglass varying in different thickness until I finalize the design.

[GabAlmighty]

Originally Posted by Arash

I should first say that a cars looks and over all body shape is what is important to me over any performance engineering.

And this is why we wont ever agree with each other I'm all about go... Fuck, I'm into old volvo 240's which i'm sure you could find some ugly things to point out :P That's half the reason i like em.

[4444]

in the end of the day, all show w/no go = gay, sleepers are where the money's at

if i pulled up to your 'aston martin' in my 4 door family car (300hp, which is regular for this day and age), i'd look at it, see that its CLEARLY not an aston (for one reason alone, there are windows on teh side of a car, so i can see in), the car would be all fart cannony, i'd laugh, you'd likely attempt a burn out to look cool... i'll just go about my day, probably outpaciing this 'aston martin' without even working teh engine

its a sad state of affairs when you think this is soemthing serious

for you - go for it, we can't knock your taste (you'll mature & will grow out of it... hopefully), but to think many other ppl, especially in vancouver where most ppl can ask their parents in asia for money, will buy a kit car aston... well, you're in for a lot of losses in teh coming years

[jpark]

speaking of transformations.. i think this is actually surprisingly nicely done




e92 front + jdm oddessey van :

[kokanee_vtec]

^Only part of that I like is the wheels/stance.

[Arash]

Originally Posted by GabAlmighty

And this is why we wont ever agree with each other I'm all about go... Fuck, I'm into old volvo 240's which i'm sure you could find some ugly things to point out :P That's half the reason i like em.

I tried to make it appealing but there is no saving this car

Originally Posted by 4444

in the end of the day, all show w/no go = gay, sleepers are where the money's at

if i pulled up to your 'aston martin' in my 4 door family car (300hp, which is regular for this day and age), i'd look at it, see that its CLEARLY not an aston (for one reason alone, there are windows on teh side of a car, so i can see in), the car would be all fart cannony, i'd laugh, you'd likely attempt a burn out to look cool... i'll just go about my day, probably outpaciing this 'aston martin' without even working teh engine

its a sad state of affairs when you think this is soemthing serious

for you - go for it, we can't knock your taste (you'll mature & will grow out of it... hopefully), but to think many other ppl, especially in vancouver where most ppl can ask their parents in asia for money, will buy a kit car aston... well, you're in for a lot of losses in teh coming years

You can pull your sleeper tactics all day but I doubt you'd be pulling in any girls in a speeding sedan. Also my ZX can be converted to the turbo version which can reach 100km in 5 seconds, never mind all the cheap mods that get me to 400hp for under $1000.

Plus it would take many Asian dollars for an Aston 77, something around 2 million dollars.


edit;
Ive seen E36 to E46 transformations where the fronts are hacked but this Van is pretty dam unique

[tofu1413]

cant exactly say RX-7's are ugly either.. for the under 50k category..

[ilvtofu]

Originally Posted by Arash

The kit on the grass?, that's whats on the car now.



I should first say that a cars looks and over all body shape is what is important to me over any performance engineering.


Toyota MR2 - Its too small of a car, like a toy and where would you fit any bags. Also the curves on the car are very late 90's
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0076_large.jpg

Toyota MR2 - Looks like a bug or frog of sorts, small enough to be a chick car... no offense ladies


Nissan Skyline GTR - all versions are too boxy for a sports car, put an NSX to any GTR and it will put it to shame. My mother owns a NIssan 240sx (s14) and I dont feel like Im in a sports car at all.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/1178...-Acura-NSX.jpg

Nissan 350z - it has a very dull design and the front bonnet is too chunky... this car and Supra's front end look like they've been poop'ed out. No offense to Supra owners, there great cars.

Supra
http://www.automobile.com/images/sto...5a05d7bc66.jpg

350z
http://www.madwhips.com/upload/image..._1-568-426.jpg

Subaru's Look like riced up GM cars to me, nothing special at all with these boxes.

240Z - Ferrari design clone, the Ferrari looks great, this design is great if you like replica's jk, I love the design but the car would need lots of work to make it a grand tourer like the ZX is.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_aqdJkNjP_iM/TI...lIGAdY/fgg.jpg

Infiniti G35This rounded Skyline again will look like a sedan next to the NSX, and there are lots of them in town like the newer shape BMW's. Other then that I like them.

Toyota Celica This car tries too hard to look sporty, I wouldnt be proud to step out of my Celica to pickup a date. Like the Integra I photoshop-ed in my photo album, the Celica has lots of great potential and is one of the cars that I would consider building a kit around, just look at the Super GT kit someone made for it.


We all have different tastes, if we all bought the same style of cars that would make for a boring world.

Perhaps knowing that its a 300zx underneath is the main reason but I will be looking to add a widebody in the future, one that will reshape the windows too.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_aqdJkNjP_iM/TI...ElfXMk/003.jpg

Just because you don't like the way these cars look doesn't mean they aren't unique

[Arash]

True

Originally Posted by tofu1413

cant exactly say RX-7's are ugly either.. for the under 50k category..

Its a nice looking car but its a little too timid looking for me.


Im a fan of the RX8 though

[punkwax]

I'ma be honest with you Arash, and I'm not usually mean spirited.

The idea, the look, and your argument are all hurting.

You may as well put a Nike swoosh across the rear window and call it a day. Yes, it's that gay.

[tofu1413]

Originally Posted by Arash

True


Its a nice looking car but its a little too timid looking for me.


Im a fan of the RX8 though

RX8 is a good car.. but majority of the people out there arent a big fan of its design overall.. it consists of some a mix of curves, edges and some odd shapes.. not that im complaining about the rotary shapes.

i for one dont really like the look.... the updated R3 does look cool though.

late model FD3S RX-7's are really really nice looking cars.

[Qmx323]

Originally Posted by Arash

[Arash]

This man is thinking about what his wife would say if he were to bring home another sports car.

Originally Posted by tofu1413

RX8 is a good car.. but majority of the people out there arent a big fan of its design overall.. it consists of some a mix of curves, edges and some odd shapes.. not that im complaining about the rotary shapes.

i for one dont really like the look.... the updated R3 does look cool though.

late model FD3S RX-7's are really really nice looking cars.

The one thing I dont like is the front fender which looks like a tumor is growing out the side.

Originally Posted by Nodnarb

I'ma be honest with you Arash, and I'm not usually mean spirited.

The idea, the look, and your argument are all hurting.

You may as well put a Nike swoosh across the rear window and call it a day. Yes, it's that gay.

I welcome harsh criticism

[4444]

Originally Posted by Arash

I tried to make it appealing but there is no saving this car


You can pull your sleeper tactics all day but I doubt you'd be pulling in any girls in a speeding sedan. Also my ZX can be converted to the turbo version which can reach 100km in 5 seconds, never mind all the cheap mods that get me to 400hp for under $1000.

Plus it would take many Asian dollars for an Aston 77, something around 2 million dollars.


edit;
Ive seen E36 to E46 transformations where the fronts are hacked but this Van is pretty dam unique

you are beyond saving - i don't attempt to, need to, nor ever have attempted to 'pick up girls in speeding sedans'
if you're doing this to pick up girls, your life is clearly more sad than we all initially thought

turbo 300zx's, unless you put in $$$$$$ aren't reliable 5 second 60mph cars, but hey, you can dream