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twitchyzero 09-12-2010 08:09 PM

QS World University Rankings 2010
 
http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...s/2010/results

released few days ago.

Take what you will from these results. They don't mean a whole lot to me, but i know parents and alumni use these stats to brag.

cambridge is the first non-US school to top the list (harvard was #1 for 6 years straight) and many technical schools have moved up.

As expected, only 2 canadian schools made top 30 (Mcgill @ 19, UoT @ 29). All canadian schools ranking on the top 200 have dropped this year.

our local institutions, UBC is @ 44, SFU @ 214, UVic @ 241.

busdriverman 09-12-2010 08:30 PM

dang no love for sfu

Lomac 09-12-2010 08:37 PM

BC universities have never been that great...

StylinRed 09-12-2010 08:58 PM

there's a shitload of rankings all who rate differently

Sauder is one of the top in the world though

and some quebec mba school is like on the top according to some polls


doesnt really mean much if you go by what Graduates get paid @ then some Chinese universities are the ones to go to

MG1 09-12-2010 09:03 PM

I'm surprised SFU is ranked that high. LOL.

4444 09-12-2010 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 7102214)
Sauder is one of the top in the world though

ha! seriously, you clearly are a sauder student who thinks they're GREAT - are you part of the CUS by chance??

i'm a sauder grad... its an ok school, i do ok - is it good compared to other business institutions in teh world? HELL no!

you probably think the sauder MBA program is a worthwhile investment... MBAs are as good as teh network you make from them
if you want a network of indian, russion and mainlander chinese kids, then be my guest - sauder is a dump that pumps itself up... the ol' pump and dump

willystyle 09-12-2010 09:54 PM

University rankings don't mean much outside of the western world, particularly in countries like South Korea (SKY) and Japan (Univ. of Tokyo), as they hold their own top universities in higher regard than Ivy league schools of the west.

dachinesedude 09-12-2010 09:56 PM

HKU is the top university of all of Asia, i wouldve never thought that

Lomac 09-12-2010 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7102310)
ha! seriously, you clearly are a sauder student who thinks they're GREAT - are you part of the CUS by chance??

i'm a sauder grad... its an ok school, i do ok - is it good compared to other business institutions in teh world? HELL no!

you probably think the sauder MBA program is a worthwhile investment... MBAs are as good as teh network you make from them
if you want a network of indian, russion and mainlander chinese kids, then be my guest - sauder is a dump that pumps itself up... the ol' pump and dump

Ooooh, Sauder... I swear I was reading UBC that entire post...

:lol

will068 09-12-2010 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 7102222)
I'm surprised SFU is ranked that high. LOL.

Being an SFU alumni, I paid close attention to these type of polls that are released. A lot of them do not even rank SFU because the number of schools it has compared to the bigger universities ( UT, UBC.. etc ).

But hey, we're at Div 2 school now. :)

4444 09-12-2010 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7102324)
Ooooh, Sauder... I swear I was reading UBC that entire post...

:lol

exactly, ubc is a pretty cool school - sauder kids and their love of themsevles is comical

i hate sauder grads (i'm an econ grad too, and will ALWAYS tell ppl that i'm a BA before saying that i went to sauder (ok, not to mention i have a designation, which trumps them all))

but seriously, BA > BComm as far as people being non douchebags/easier to get along with/better to work with (and again, most of my friends who did BSc in computer science, BA in econ with me, etc. make a lot more than sauder kids who don't go to the next level (i.e. CA, CFA...) - sometimes they surprise me with how much they make

StylinRed 09-12-2010 10:40 PM

rofl wow... someone has issues

no i didnt go to sauder

i was just speaking of all the different rankings and how if you look at some rankings a place like UBC Sauder is ranked fairly high

it all depends on what area ur studies are in and which ranking your looking at is all im saying

twitchyzero 09-12-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7102178)
BC universities have never been that great...

UBC is arguably canada's best when it comes to research though

Lomac 09-12-2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 7102409)
UBC is arguably canada's best when it comes to research though

Like stylin said, different universities may excel at one or two things, but fall short in others. I applied to the University of York in England after sifting through different schools because they have one of, if not the best programs in the world for the field I had chosen to get into. However, if you look at the QS rankings, they're only 88th, after dropping down from something like 70th last year.

PiuYi 09-12-2010 11:43 PM

i'm surprised HK universities are ranked so high..... i didn't think they were that good

if u rank it by:

Arts and Humanities, U of T jumps to #11, UBC to #31

Life Sciences and Medicine: U of T #16, UBC #20

Natural Sciences: U of T #14, UBC #18

Engineering: U of T #14, UBC #30

Wongtouski 09-13-2010 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7102310)
ha! seriously, you clearly are a sauder student who thinks they're GREAT - are you part of the CUS by chance??

i'm a sauder grad... its an ok school, i do ok - is it good compared to other business institutions in teh world? HELL no!

you probably think the sauder MBA program is a worthwhile investment... MBAs are as good as teh network you make from them
if you want a network of indian, russion and mainlander chinese kids, then be my guest - sauder is a dump that pumps itself up... the ol' pump and dump

PREACH! When you photocopy business cases where it explicitly says "it is illegal to photocopy" on the back of every page, you know you're not on par with Harvard.

Your quote on the MBA program is on point. Those guys are just in the way, they take the best lockers (where most of em are empty), and they hog the nice lounge. Best thing to come out of the program there? Pingping courtesy of the fucking fobs.

I dunno why someone failed u.

StylinRed 09-13-2010 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wongtouski (Post 7102576)
PREACH! When you photocopy business cases where it explicitly says "it is illegal to photocopy" on the back of every page, you know you're not on par with Harvard.

actually you'd be very surprised... very.

Vinny G 09-13-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7102310)
ha! seriously, you clearly are a sauder student who thinks they're GREAT - are you part of the CUS by chance??

i'm a sauder grad... its an ok school, i do ok - is it good compared to other business institutions in teh world? HELL no!

you probably think the sauder MBA program is a worthwhile investment... MBAs are as good as teh network you make from them
if you want a network of indian, russion and mainlander chinese kids, then be my guest - sauder is a dump that pumps itself up... the ol' pump and dump

I don't hate Sauder as much as you (I went there before going to SFU for their better business information systems program) but I do agree about the Sauder kids. Most of these losers think they're in Harvard or something. :lol

twitchyzero 09-13-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 7102415)
Like stylin said, different universities may excel at one or two things, but fall short in others. I applied to the University of York in England after sifting through different schools because they have one of, if not the best programs in the world for the field I had chosen to get into. However, if you look at the QS rankings, they're only 88th, after dropping down from something like 70th last year.

yep i'm aware of that..just wanted to point it out as you said the institutions in BC aren't that great

you can sort the rankings by discipline/faculty

wow so much hate for the sauder mba program in here. I do realize there seems to be more international students but I dont have first-hand experience on how that's affecting the school and its networks.

butter_sashimi 09-13-2010 12:03 PM

I'm a UofT (UT to vancouver ppl) grad. I did commerce (accounting).

It's not surprising Sauder kids are full of themselves. Most are not aware of anything else other than own self-driven goals and their little UBC community. I recall trying to start up a conversation about other designations other than CA and it was like out of this world for them. Personally I think commerce people are the least easy going and hardest to approach compared to those in arts/sci etc. That's not to say that they don't know how to party tho~ :p

Wongtouski 09-13-2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butter_sashimi (Post 7103009)
I'm a UofT (UT to vancouver ppl) grad. I did commerce (accounting).

It's not surprising Sauder kids are full of themselves. Most are not aware of anything else other than own self-driven goals and their little UBC community. I recall trying to start up a conversation about other designations other than CA and it was like out of this world for them. Personally I think commerce people are the least easy going and hardest to approach compared to those in arts/sci etc. That's not to say that they don't know how to party tho~ :p

I will have to disagree to a degree and I'll try to explain. I think it's mostly because Bcomm (I refuse to call it Sauder cuz we never wanted that name) is such a small community coupled with the fact that most are asians. During my time there you needed a very high mark to get in, and that resulted in a student pop of mostly asians with one goal: get a finance/accounting double major. The bcomm situation is unique even for UBC itself, we hardly ever have lectures outside our own building, we got standard time tables where we see each other time after time, the CA program and the big4s advertise the hell out of anything bcomm (and subsequently brainwashed the ones who didn't know what to take), and you got a situation where it became a bigger ver of a highschool group. It's a shame, because its hard for me to name 10 white people from class..........or anyone that's not Asian.

......they actually changed their admission scheme, they now require a more well rounded resume in order to qualify for the program. And from what I know the student body has become more diverse, and dare I say, normal (or maybe abnormal for 604 standards lol).

4444 09-13-2010 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 7102389)
rofl wow... someone has issues

no i didnt go to sauder

i was just speaking of all the different rankings and how if you look at some rankings a place like UBC Sauder is ranked fairly high

it all depends on what area ur studies are in and which ranking your looking at is all im saying

no issues, but being that i went through the CA program with the majority of ppl who came from Sauder, i just wanted to kill most of them - they're so cliquey, fake, and in love with themselves

you know, there's more to talk about in life than 'my future asperations' and 'how i'm going to make my millions' - Sauder kids are VERY one dimensional

in business, i am finding, that people like to do business with people who are interesting & who can do the work properly, sauder does not produce those people, only technically average people who can study books really hard

twitchyzero 09-13-2010 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 7103634)
only technically average people who can study books really hard

um you can say the same about the kids in science and app sci

butter_sashimi 09-14-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wongtouski (Post 7103326)
I will have to disagree to a degree and I'll try to explain. I think it's mostly because Bcomm (I refuse to call it Sauder cuz we never wanted that name) is such a small community coupled with the fact that most are asians. During my time there you needed a very high mark to get in, and that resulted in a student pop of mostly asians with one goal: get a finance/accounting double major. The bcomm situation is unique even for UBC itself, we hardly ever have lectures outside our own building, we got standard time tables where we see each other time after time, the CA program and the big4s advertise the hell out of anything bcomm (and subsequently brainwashed the ones who didn't know what to take), and you got a situation where it became a bigger ver of a highschool group. It's a shame, because its hard for me to name 10 white people from class..........or anyone that's not Asian.

......they actually changed their admission scheme, they now require a more well rounded resume in order to qualify for the program. And from what I know the student body has become more diverse, and dare I say, normal (or maybe abnormal for 604 standards lol).

It's sad to say that it's the same in Toronto. Saw the same people day in day out for 3-4 years. Accounting and Finance majors think they are better than the rest and than each other. The only diff is that at least in BC they advertise other designations. Toronto is all CA but mainly because the city has closer roots to it than in the west. Yay for a changed admission scheme but with the way the student body shapes themselves... I don't think the end result will be anything differerent than it is now. You gotta be superficial to a certain degree to fit in anyways. =\ I helped out at this year's UBC tax clinic and everyone was either worried about their future or pretty confident of themselves. On the flipside, I attended a SFU event and met this nitwit who thought nothing in the world was better than getting your CA and to do anything otherwise was blasphemy to one's career. She also thought marrying her long-distance bf who had a masters in physiotherapy (or something) would guarantee her a comfy life.... geez.

I think the top students in my year were a Brown dude and a caucasian girl, then came the Asians ;O

flagella 09-14-2010 11:54 PM

This is at least for the business majors. The quality of academic life you spent in a university and network you build is way more important than how high your university ranks.


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