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Old 09-13-2010, 08:57 AM   #1
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Tojo's

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Just curious Im planning to go Tojo's

any feedback on what to get? what dress code? would be much appreciated

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if you haven't gone to tojo's, then the chef's set menu. $100/ person and wait for the surprises.

dress code is casual.
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it's just business casual. i have been there a few times and if you expect all you can eat shit ... good luck.
I must have had a post somewhere anyhoo.
they do you have set menu BUT as someone said before, you do have the opportunity to just say, 70 dollars a head or 100 etc.

i went with 120 per head and we had like 8 courses. TINY TINY portions but at the end, we were so freaking full.

Chicken wings, tiny sashimi, "tojo's california roll', they indiviaul packaged fish soup is really good. can't explain it.. but it was memorable my friend had to order it again.

it's quite a fun place to go if u are loaded with money, u'll see some hockey players from time to time. also, u wont' be using any soya sauce... show the respect and just taste the food on how they really taste... definitely not all u can eat quality.

to tell you the truth, as an anniversay. i would go somewhere. you can tell them u want to make it special and you should make yoru own menu. just call them ebfore hand, you want to have a personalized menu and tell the chef to make something, you buck will go further (depending which nice place you go).

tojo's is good but not really an romantic setting and they won't treat you like royality..
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get ready for some wicked food! I think their Toro is second to none, melts in your mouth like butter...if in season try their sea urchin stew....yum!
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how would u guys compare miku with tojo>???



anybody been to miku???

http://www.mikurestaurant.com/
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get ready for some wicked food! I think their Toro is second to none, melts in your mouth like butter...if in season try their sea urchin stew....yum!
How can Tojo's toro be second to none, when most of the decent Japanese owned restaurants in Vancouver all order from the same suppliers? It's all marketing.

Tojo's isn't the most romantic place you'll ever go to. It's more for business dinners, IMHO. The food is good, but I think there are other places that have a better atmosphere like the aforementioned Miku, Zest, etc.
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Miku is the best japanese restaurant i've ever been to

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how would u guys compare miku with tojo>???



anybody been to miku???

http://www.mikurestaurant.com/
Yes I have. I went to there dine out. its really good.
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Anyone tried Zen, I work next to it and it's a really small place on w10th but has some awards outside
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in terms of food, tojo or miku?


as someone mentioned already, seems miku has a better atmosphere




its odd these two high end japanese restaurant does not have any super exotic fish.


blue fin tuna etc etc...
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How can Tojo's toro be second to none, when most of the decent Japanese owned restaurants in Vancouver all order from the same suppliers? It's all marketing.
yes it might come from the same distribution but places like richmond sushi buys the lowest grade where tojo's buys decent and better sushi grade fish. You will never see the cheap ass salmon you eat at richmond sushi being served at tojos. It's not marketing, it really comes down to a better sushi grade.
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in terms of food, tojo or miku?


as someone mentioned already, seems miku has a better atmosphere




its odd these two high end japanese restaurant does not have any super exotic fish.


blue fin tuna etc etc...
tojos has bluefin, whatchu talkin bout willis
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really? damn them

its not listed on their website dinner menu nor lunch menu
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How can Tojo's toro be second to none, when most of the decent Japanese owned restaurants in Vancouver all order from the same suppliers? It's all marketing.

Tojo's isn't the most romantic place you'll ever go to. It's more for business dinners, IMHO. The food is good, but I think there are other places that have a better atmosphere like the aforementioned Miku, Zest, etc.
your rationale is like saying how can a Aston Martin be better than a Ford, when the both use Bosch as a main supplier. Have you been to Tojos?

I guess Gotham or Hys steak is the same as getting a steak from Denny's...they all buy from the same supplier.
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Anyone tried Zen, I work next to it and it's a really small place on w10th but has some awards outside
the one on west vancouver?

imo its the worst restaurant I had ever been in. I was fooled by the exterior. The interior looks even worse than AYCE restuarants. The wood and other materials are cheap. The plates, cups, and menu's are made of cheap materials as well.

Not to mention their waitress do not have any manners at all. Their food is crap (srs), portions are extremely small. I spent about $300 (just on food!) on a dinner date with a girl and not even she was full, and once again the food is gross. Avoid at all costs.

It is totally unacceptable for them to charge this kind of price (which is on par with morton /gotham ). At least they have good interiors and services.
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How can Tojo's toro be second to none, when most of the decent Japanese owned restaurants in Vancouver all order from the same suppliers? It's all marketing.

Tojo's isn't the most romantic place you'll ever go to. It's more for business dinners, IMHO. The food is good, but I think there are other places that have a better atmosphere like the aforementioned Miku, Zest, etc.
Read my mind haha I guess being or having been IN the business actually helps.
Miku is not that romantic, they are more posh looking. Zest is nice, I also shamelessly recommend Kamei Royale (for more privacy/romantic) hehe...

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yes it might come from the same distribution but places like richmond sushi buys the lowest grade where tojo's buys decent and better sushi grade fish. You will never see the cheap ass salmon you eat at richmond sushi being served at tojos. It's not marketing, it really comes down to a better sushi grade.
If you read Senna's entire post, he did mention that "most of the decent Japanese owned restaurants", why would you toss Richmond Sushi into the mix?
Richmond Sushi is Chinese owned, and you actually consider them a "decent" Japanese restaurant?... umm, no comment.
If you must know, Ebisu & Kamei Royale also order the EXACT same quality as Tojo's. Except Tojo stamps his automatic-instant-price-boosting name on it therefore your mentality is adjusted to think it's pure awesome simply because you paid triple the amount and "the man himself" cut the same slab of fish for you.
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Richmond Sushi is Chinese owned, and you actually consider them a "decent" Japanese restaurant?... umm, no comment.
Is ebisu chinese owned? Not trying to talk shit about it, because I go there often and love the food there. Just wondering, because I thought it was.
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Whoa guys, let's take a step back here.
We're throwing a lot of analogies around and I don't think it's helping anybody get informed.

Here are 3 distinct properties:
  1. Cut (back or belly?)
  2. Grade (Yes, there are different grades, but I don't know what they are called.)
  3. Fish Species (Wild Sockey vs the gross farmed orange slimey stuff. Both could be "select" grade.)
  4. The restaurant's treatment is the final dimension.
  • Do they serve you the end bits?
  • How fresh is it?
  • Are they cutting it properly against the grain? Or do they have some cheap untrained chinese hands doing the cutting?
  • Heck, if they knife is sharp? Are you bruising or sawing the fish tissue.
  • Storage temperature and moisture level. Freezer burned fish? Ick.
  • Storage isolation so conflicting flavors don't merge.
You guys seem to be blurring the line between these.



Allow me to sort you guys out?

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How can Tojo's toro be second to none, when most of the decent Japanese owned restaurants in Vancouver all order from the same suppliers? It's all marketing.
Reason 1 through 4, pick one?


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yes it might come from the same distribution but places like richmond sushi buys the lowest grade where tojo's buys decent and better sushi grade fish. You will never see the cheap ass salmon you eat at richmond sushi being served at tojos. It's not marketing, it really comes down to a better sushi grade.
Fish Species: Farmed Atlantic vs Wild Sockey


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If you must know, Ebisu & Kamei Royale also order the EXACT same quality as Tojo's. Except Tojo stamps his automatic-instant-price-boosting name on it therefore your mentality is adjusted to think it's pure awesome simply because you paid triple the amount and "the man himself" cut the same slab of fish for you.
Obsideon, I mean no offense, just trying to help the other guys out here...
Grade = Same
But any of the other factors I listed can and probably differ.
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in terms of food, tojo or miku?

as someone mentioned already, seems miku has a better atmosphere

its odd these two high end japanese restaurant does not have any super exotic fish.

blue fin tuna etc etc...
tojo pushes local ingredients from what i remember
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Is ebisu chinese owned? Not trying to talk shit about it, because I go there often and love the food there. Just wondering, because I thought it was.
Japanese owned with roots going back 40+ years starting in Yokohama. Ebisu is the same owner as Kamei Royale, one of the oldest (turning 35 years old!), authentic, traditional Japanese restaurants in Vancouver.

Thanks for asking though, it's always good to clear the air of any misconceptions

Culverin: No offense taken. I know exactly where you are coming from. I just didn't go into as much detail as you have.
I believe all good chefs should have their own knife sets that are kept razor sharp. Specifically all our sushi chefs were trained and have worked many years in Japan before coming over to work for us.

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Japanese owned with roots going back 40+ years starting in Yokohama. Ebisu is the same owner as Kamei Royale, one of the oldest (turning 35 years old!), authentic, traditional Japanese restaurants in Vancouver.
I remember like 6 years ago I went to Kamei Royale on Broadway at Broadway Plaza for their all you can eat. It was the same trash as Richmond Sushi. Generic buffet style where you go up and get your own food etc.

Is that authentic, traditional Japanese?
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It was way more than 6 years ago I believe. I remember when we changed over to 'keep with the fad' we were also one of the best, if not the best AYCE in Vancouver, but because we were serving higher quality and higher grade food with more professional (and freakin' expensive) Japanese chefs it was difficult to sustain and make profit and potential was very limited so we had to discontinue the AYCE. A year or so after we switched back to authentic, traditional dining.

Wakaru?

Oh and no, it was never "Buffet get-your-own-food style" lol!
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I can say the Kamei on Broadway is probably the best lunch sushi restaurant in the area. I never got to try the AYCE though, don't really want to anyway. The $9.99 three dish combo was a very good deal! It even included mango/green tea ice cream... until the menu changed.

I used to work in the area and I would go there 2-3 times a week for lunch.
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Japanese owned with roots going back 40+ years starting in Yokohama. Ebisu is the same owner as Kamei Royale, one of the oldest (turning 35 years old!), authentic, traditional Japanese restaurants in Vancouver.

Thanks for asking though, it's always good to clear the air of any misconceptions

Culverin: No offense taken. I know exactly where you are coming from. I just didn't go into as much detail as you have.
I believe all good chefs should have their own knife sets that are kept razor sharp. Specifically all our sushi chefs were trained and have worked many years in Japan before coming over to work for us.
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