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I didn't care much for how the event was run by drivers unlimited
I felt it was a waste of time in the morning sessions to do instructor swaps every 2 laps. right when my car got up to temp you were forced to pit.
I don't like how once the instuctors got out of your car there was no instruction to proceed back on course.
I don't like how they make passing on the right becuase it goes against every natural instict in your body. Slow on right Fast on left, thats how i've been driving for my entire left. There explanation makes sense but you could see all day people stuggling with it with lots waving by for the pas but drifting to the right. i'm guilty of it as well
I didn't like how beginners weren't allowed to pass. Whats the point of going to a lapping day if your stuck behind a slow car all day.
I didn't like how they used black flags for everything. you didn't know if you specifically were being called in or the entire session.
I don't like how they make passing on the right becuase it goes against every natural instict in your body. Slow on right Fast on left, thats how i've been driving for my entire left. There explanation makes sense but you could see all day people stuggling with it with lots waving by for the pas but drifting to the right. i'm guilty of it as well
What was the reason given for the passing on the Right?
All the track days that I have done at Mission and PIR have always had passong on the left since the driver is on the left hand side.
I know, it's for all those R32 Gee Tee Ar's right?
__________________ Originally posted by Iceman_19 you should have tried to touch his penis. that really throws them off. Originally posted by The7even SumAznGuy > Billboa Originally posted by 1990TSI SumAznGuy> Internet > tinytrix
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Originally Posted by tofu1413
and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
What was the reason given for the passing on the Right?
All the track days that I have done at Mission and PIR have always had passong on the left since the driver is on the left hand side.
I know, it's for all those R32 Gee Tee Ar's right?
ahahah no.. they said something like so the passer can keep the optimal line as the car would sweep to the right after turn 9. There were only like 3-4 RHD cars there anyways.
Dam I cant find the pic of me spinning out @ turn 4-5 and stopping a few feet away from the tire wall that was epic... thought I was gonna die.
There explanation was as your exiting the corner entering the main straight on power and on the limit of traction so its safer to pass on the right.
What made it more confusing was all other passing zones follow conventional theory of pass on left, only main straight was passing on right.
I see there point of view but its ass backwards. Anyone thats going to pass is going to set them selves up appropreatly before entering the main straight.
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy
What was the reason given for the passing on the Right?
All the track days that I have done at Mission and PIR have always had passong on the left since the driver is on the left hand side.
I know, it's for all those R32 Gee Tee Ar's right?
passing on the right does give the passer the right flow onto the straight but causes me to actually not lift on the throttle and pass. Passing on the left requires me to lift and wait till the vehicle in front move to the right which actually is safer in my opinion.
if everyone was running in advance, then passing on the right would be better.
cut him some slack. it is his first time track, actually first time anything. I sat with him in the morning and he improved through out the day. he just wanted to learn how to drive better on the streets.
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Originally Posted by 124Y
^ I kept getting stuck behind this Malibu even after pitting in a couple of times :
cut him some slack. it is his first time track, actually first time anything. I sat with him in the morning and he improved through out the day. he just wanted to learn how to drive better on the streets.
He made everyone safer by handling out all the pamphlets. Good thing I pretended not to speak chinese or else he would be chatting with me the whole time... I saw him chat with the ferrari people for so long.
would have liked a lot of things changed, but how about a rally start?
stagger 5 seconds between letting cars out...
i still had fun, but i had to let off throttle a bunch of times.
passing on the right does give the passer the right flow onto the straight but causes me to actually not lift on the throttle and pass. Passing on the left requires me to lift and wait till the vehicle in front move to the right which actually is safer in my opinion.
if everyone was running in advance, then passing on the right would be better.
Better for you or for everyone in general?
What if the slower car in front of you was having car issues and wanted to pull to the right to get off of the track?
This is a lapping day and not a race day, so I don't see why staying on the gas through T9 and onto the front straight is all that important. In fact, if there is a slower car in front of you, wouldn't that car be pushing out wide to the right as opposed to the faster car being slowed down?
Also, T1 requires you to be on the left side of the track to make the right turn. So if you passed the car on the right, then you have to cut back to the left to set up the car for T1. Seems a little bit odd to me.
__________________ Originally posted by Iceman_19 you should have tried to touch his penis. that really throws them off. Originally posted by The7even SumAznGuy > Billboa Originally posted by 1990TSI SumAznGuy> Internet > tinytrix
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Originally Posted by tofu1413
and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
^ Well the instructors there explained that since turn 1 is a right turn, passing on the "inside" made more sense. But again, quite a few people I know didn't really like the way Drivers Unlimited ran the track day.
^ Well the instructors there explained that since turn 1 is a right turn, passing on the "inside" made more sense. But again, quite a few people I know didn't really like the way Drivers Unlimited ran the track day.
That's the thing. The fastest line is to go as wide as you can, carry as much speed, apex over the curb on the right, and on the gas where the car drifts back over to the left side curbing.
If you are making the T1 right hander on the right side of the track, that turn has become almost the old T1.
Or am I missing something? Maybe that is why I am still a novice?
__________________ Originally posted by Iceman_19 you should have tried to touch his penis. that really throws them off. Originally posted by The7even SumAznGuy > Billboa Originally posted by 1990TSI SumAznGuy> Internet > tinytrix
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Originally Posted by tofu1413
and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
wow lots of questions for someone who was not even there.
as stated in my opinion generally if it is for everyone then it is probably safer passing on the left for track days. The reason is both vehicle would need to slow down.
If we are talking "what if's", then essentially anything can happen on any corner and any straight away. the car being passed is suppose to slow down and point for the passer to pass where the faster vehicle can stay on speed.
yes this is a lapping day. nothing in my context stated it was a race day.
I don't see problems staying on gas on T9 and onto the straight even if it is a track day. that is the point of taking your cars out on track and learn. I wouldn't want to cruise my way around the track.
Myself and many others have always stayed with the flow of the line out of
T9 to the right side of the straight away and back left when there is no traffic. There is definately enough space for the faster vehicle to do this especially the vehicle being pass is suppose to slow down and point. If this is a " race day ". lots of racers will be late braking on the right side to cut into
T1.
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy
Better for you or for everyone in general?
What if the slower car in front of you was having car issues and wanted to pull to the right to get off of the track?
This is a lapping day and not a race day, so I don't see why staying on the gas through T9 and onto the front straight is all that important. In fact, if there is a slower car in front of you, wouldn't that car be pushing out wide to the right as opposed to the faster car being slowed down?
Also, T1 requires you to be on the left side of the track to make the right turn. So if you passed the car on the right, then you have to cut back to the left to set up the car for T1. Seems a little bit odd to me.
Actually, I regret not going but then again I couldn't get the time off since a couple of people were away on busniess which left me in charge.
It just seemed a little odd passing on the right for one section and then passing on the left for the other sections. I'll just stay in Novice where there is no passing. =)
__________________ Originally posted by Iceman_19 you should have tried to touch his penis. that really throws them off. Originally posted by The7even SumAznGuy > Billboa Originally posted by 1990TSI SumAznGuy> Internet > tinytrix
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Originally Posted by tofu1413
and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
I agree with your point of view, especially for the higher horsepower cars that can carry lots of speed through T9 and can get really twitchy upon entering the main straight under full throttle BUT its only safer if everyone is on the same page and there is reasonable expectation that every one is going to do the same thing.
I felt that it was more dangerous because it was more confusing. Your natural instict is to pass on the left. all day i say people waving for the pass and then drifting to the right. I was also guilty of this as well. I had to make a conscious thought when entering the main straight to way by and keep to the left and anytime you have to actually think about anything at track speeds is a receipy for disaster.Many people were being waved in for passing on the left that day so i'm not the only one that felt it was confusing.
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wow lots of questions for someone who was not even there.
as stated in my opinion generally if it is for everyone then it is probably safer passing on the left for track days. The reason is both vehicle would need to slow down.
If we are talking "what if's", then essentially anything can happen on any corner and any straight away. the car being passed is suppose to slow down and point for the passer to pass where the faster vehicle can stay on speed.
yes this is a lapping day. nothing in my context stated it was a race day.
I don't see problems staying on gas on T9 and onto the straight even if it is a track day. that is the point of taking your cars out on track and learn. I wouldn't want to cruise my way around the track.
Myself and many others have always stayed with the flow of the line out of
T9 to the right side of the straight away and back left when there is no traffic. There is definately enough space for the faster vehicle to do this especially the vehicle being pass is suppose to slow down and point. If this is a " race day ". lots of racers will be late braking on the right side to cut into
T1.
I definately felt the tension same as everyone else in the morning when the lead coach from driving unlimited said to pass on the right of the front straight and pass left on the other 3 passing zones. It is not what we traditional do however I do agree to some extent that he is right but only if all drivers can see it on the same page (as u stated). this is the reason why I stated that I would fully agree for it if it is all advance drivers.
Most importantly is that all run groups should attend the driver's meeting to listen to the instructions and comply through out the event. I sat in with many cars during all run groups in the two morning sessions. No one created any potential problems that I see when on course and most drove safely to bring their cars home accident free.
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I agree with your point of view, especially for the higher horsepower cars that can carry lots of speed through T9 and can get really twitchy upon entering the main straight under full throttle BUT its only safer if everyone is on the same page and there is reasonable expectation that every one is going to do the same thing.
He made everyone safer by handling out all the pamphlets. Good thing I pretended not to speak chinese or else he would be chatting with me the whole time... I saw him chat with the ferrari people for so long.
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