Originally Posted by S1 S2 (Post 7132032)

Were u running both the yellow drl and yellow fogs at the same time or your yellow fogs as a drl?

Originally Posted by jbsali (Post 7131966)

I got a ticket today for having yellow DRL and Yellow Foglights today.
The cop tells me that white is the only legal colour. I see so many luxury cars that have yellow daytime running lights (stock bulbs) and cars for all categories that have yellow foglights and they have no issues with this.

Is this a legit MV Reg or was this cop just having a bad day?
I read most of MV Reg 4.01-.07 and nothing seems to stand out that much...

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

Originally Posted by Bainne (Post 7132209)

Provided your DRL are separate from your head lamps, contest it immediately.

I can't believe a cop would be ignorant enough to even give a ticket for such things, I'd likely complain to the detachment if your car is completely up to code.


DRL specifications are referenced in the

BC MVAR s.4.08



Now first off it says "may" which actually brings into question the requirement for cars to be equipped with DRLs , as the term may only implies that a vehicle "can be" and does not specifically state it MUST be. Granted it refers to the MVSA which states they must, just an interesting contradiction.

Anyways, it references the Canadian MV Safety Act for exact specifications, which specifically states about DRLs

Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations (C.R.C., c. 1038)
Lighting System and Retroreflective Devices (Standard 108)




Now technically there are exact color codes specified in the SAE Standard J578, unfortunately I don't have access to the document, but that particular section is for the colour of "Amber" used on motor vehicles. If your lights are Amberish, then you have a very cut and dry case. There is no way an officer would be able to tell the hex code from simply looking.

I imagine if your DRLs were that pure yellow like many fog lamps then you rightly deserved the ticket. It is blinding, its not technically amber (as outlined by the SAE Standard J578) and it would likely be why you got pulled over and in which case I would recant my rant against the officer. They are dangerous and disallowed, change them.

Originally Posted by Volitaire (Post 7132359)

What make/model car and are the lights OEM or aftermarket, if aftermarket where are they installed and what type.

Originally Posted by jbsali (Post 7132432)

The DRL are yellow but at half candle power, appear amber. When highbeams are activated, they are yellow. They run at the same wattage of the OEM ones and are in no way distracting. They just give off a slightly different colour. The fogs are OEM styled but have tinted covers (yellow), w/ regular bulbs behind them. The fogs and DRL are two different levels of brightness. Once the highbeams are enabled, the highbeams would ofcourse be brighter. The fogs in no way hinder oncoming drivers vision. (day/night). would this still be considered ok/ borderline?



2006 Honda Civic- DRL= Aftermarket (Luminiks), Foglights= Aftermarket (Completely identical to OEM, just tinted yellow lenses, mounted in OEM spots)

Originally Posted by Bainne (Post 7132474)

Fog lamps use a "selective yellow" colour (simply put, yellow without any orange component), which is not the same as the "yellow" referenced for Amber DRLs.

If the yellow of your DRL's appear to be the same yellow as your foglamps, then it is a violation.

In reference below, because your headlamps are optically combined with your regular beams, you cannot use the selective yellow outlined in SAE Standard J583, which is allowed for fog lamps.

If your DRL's are optically combined with your foglights however, it would be allowable.







Regarding the colour of foglamps, BC's MVAR says



Now, while they quote the generic terms of "white or amber", the BC MVAR also refers to the Canadian MVSA and SAE standards for specifics.

MVSA and SAE state that foglamps must conform to SAE Recommended Practice J583, which is selective yellow. So a pure yellow fog lamp, provided it is mounted properly, is perfectly acceptable.


If you do take it to court, you may want to consider getting the officers sworn testimony that the ticket was given as a result of colour BEFORE you present your evidence of colour compliance. Otherwise they could easily alter their statement to that they also felt your lamps were mounted improperly, in which case (unless you already have evidence to dispute this) you will be stuck.




As a quick FYI, this isn't legal advice, it may be wrong, I am simply reposting the law with my own opinion and interpretation injected in.

Originally Posted by ajax (Post 7132456)

Dammmn whered you get the ticket? Talk to "sleepy" on 8thcivic about it!
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Originally Posted by jbsali (Post 7132891)

got it on 104th and 160th. Did she run into a similar issue or something?

Originally Posted by S1 S2 (Post 7133004)

Was the fog lights on with your drl when u receive the ticket or just the yellow drl with the yellow fogs off?
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Originally Posted by jbsali (Post 7132888)

In other words, my fog lights are perfectly legal. However, my pure yellow DRLs are illegal?

Originally Posted by skidmark (Post 7133589)

I don't know, you haven't told me what your DRL's are yet. Are they OEM or something that you have added or modified?

Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 7133644)

I'm just speculating here, but I'm going to guess he's "upgraded" his lights to an illegal set of yellow-coloured HID's.

And if that's the case.. finally, some cop is giving out tickets for this. I'm sick and tired of being blinded by you ricers with your HID lights in stock reflector housings. I thought I was going to have to take issues into my own hands and drive around with a 1,000,000 candlepower spotlight to blind you back...

If that's not the case.. my bad ;)