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11-29-2010, 02:20 PM
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what IF they smell the beer in ur breathe, and you said NO. HE found out u are lying...than ....what happens???
wouldnt that piss them off that you lied to him? and making the cop trust no one? | You could be the DD, and be at the club and some drunk girl spills her vodka/soda all over your shirt. Now you reek like booze but are comepletely sober.
I've had that happen to me before and the cop was really pushing the issue that I was drunk. I passed all his road side tests and it got to the point that I had to explain the same story about the girl spillling a drink over and over. I was getting fustrated to the point I said to the officer... "Listen to the way i'm talking to you, Do I sound drunk or not coherent? I've passed all your tests! I haven't slurred a single word! Some bitch spilled her drink on my shirt!!" Eventually, he let me on my way.
It's up to the officer to prove that you are lying to him. Therefore, we have breathalyzers, road side sobriety tests, etc.
Oh...cops already trust no one. Everyone is a suspect because we are not "MEMBERS", we are civilians. Civilians are a different group of people that can't be trusted because they are not part of the "brotherhood"... just ask any cop (member). 
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12-04-2010, 11:24 PM
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went thru another road side test. this time got tested. i had told the officer before that i have 3 beer . 2 hours ago. he tested. came to 011, he told me, that means u have 3/4 beer in ur system. and "ur good to go buddy"..
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12-04-2010, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tool001 went thru another road side test. this time got tested. i had told the officer before that i have 2-3 beer . 2 hours ago. he tested. came to 011, he told me, that means u have 3,1/4 beer in ur system. and "ur good to go buddy".. | the scary part is that they actually believe they have it down to that much of a science
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12-05-2010, 09:19 AM
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It's not a science...the instrument measuring your breath sample uses "science". What the Cop was doing is based on his training and past experience. I could tell within a drink, how much a person had consumed. The reading, combined with the elapsed time and general body size and any other symptoms, gives you a pretty good idea. The purpose is not to guess how many drinks, it is to remove impaired drivers from the road. A skilled carpenter can usually estimate distances in his work, a good golfer can estimate distance to a hole and a long term hunter can figure out the distance to a target. If they want to get exact measurements then they use a ruler, spotter scope etc to actually measure.
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12-05-2010, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jigga250 the scary part is that they actually believe they have it down to that much of a science | Why wouldn't they? The scary part is that people believe they can drink and drive.
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12-05-2010, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by zulutango It's not a science...the instrument measuring your breath sample uses "science". What the Cop was doing is based on his training and past experience. I could tell within a drink, how much a person had consumed. The reading, combined with the elapsed time and general body size and any other symptoms, gives you a pretty good idea. The purpose is not to guess how many drinks, it is to remove impaired drivers from the road. A skilled carpenter can usually estimate distances in his work, a good golfer can estimate distance to a hole and a long term hunter can figure out the distance to a target. If they want to get exact measurements then they use a ruler, spotter scope etc to actually measure. | if thats the case. why not just throw out the judge and jury and use strictly lie detectors to figure out if someone is guilty or not. it will save alot of time and hassle. im pretty sure with that device you can get a fairly accurate GUESS if sumone has broken a law or not  | |
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12-05-2010, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by asahai69 if thats the case. why not just throw out the judge and jury and use strictly lie detectors to figure out if someone is guilty or not. it will save alot of time and hassle. im pretty sure with that device you can get a fairly accurate GUESS if sumone has broken a law or not | With experience, I don't see how anyone wouldn't be capable of estimating how many drinks someone had if they knew their BAC from a breathalyser.
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12-05-2010, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightwalker With experience, I don't see how anyone wouldn't be capable of estimating how many drinks someone had if they knew their BAC from a breathalyser. | You got it!
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12-05-2010, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightwalker With experience, I don't see how anyone wouldn't be capable of estimating how many drinks someone had if they knew their BAC from a breathalyser. | probably because people metabolize alcohol differently? Can you tell someone has a high metabolism just from looking at them? Can you tell if a person is 1/8 first nations just from looking at them?
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12-05-2010, 01:44 PM
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i love how the police are using guess work and estimations in determining peoples ability to drive
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12-05-2010, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zulutango You got it! | so going with the assumption that the officer was right.. i could have had, 6-10 beer , 2-3 hours ago and still would have shown under/around the .05 ? thats crazy.
frankly..i dont like the lower drinking limit, or the discretionary power that the police DOESN"T use when impounding.... but nobody should be drinking that much and driving, regardless if they BAC count shows below .05 or not.
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12-05-2010, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jigga250 probably because people metabolize alcohol differently? Can you tell someone has a high metabolism just from looking at them? Can you tell if a person is 1/8 first nations just from looking at them? | I don't understand what you're trying to say. If your BAC is high enough to blow a warn or fail, your fucked anyway.
I'm guessing that "I'm an alcoholic, so I was not inebriated even though my BAC was too high" doesn't fly in court. Any other example I can think of would mean they were more intoxicated rather than less.
Estimating how much is in their system is just something an officer would pick up through experience, for their own enjoyment.
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12-05-2010, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jigga250 probably because people metabolize alcohol differently? Can you tell someone has a high metabolism just from looking at them? Can you tell if a person is 1/8 first nations just from looking at them? | Actually being a fast metabolizer makes you more drunk because the intermediate metabolite acetylaldehyde is more toxic than alcohol and the cop can probably pick it up by their actions. Unless they're also a fast metabolizer of that then whether or not that persons BAC is lower than
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