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ilvtofu 11-08-2010 04:34 PM

Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
 
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For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.

For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily. So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.

His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.

But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.

Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

"That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"
Haub's sample day

Espresso, Double: 6 calories; 0 grams of fat

Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake: 150 calories; 5 grams of fat

Centrum Advanced Formula From A To Zinc: 0 calories; 0 grams of fat

Little Debbie Star Crunch: 150 calories; 6 grams of fat

Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake: 150 calories; 5 grams of fat

Diet Mountain Dew: 0 calories; 0 grams of fat

Doritos Cool Ranch: 75 calories; 4 grams of fat

Kellogg's Corn Pops: 220 calories; 0 grams of fat

whole milk: 150 calories; 8 grams of fat

baby carrots: 18 calories; 0 grams of fat

Duncan Hines Family Style Brownie Chewy Fudge: 270 calories; 14 grams of fat

Little Debbie Zebra Cake: 160 calories; 8 grams of fat

Muscle Milk Protein Shake: 240 calories; 9 grams of fat

Totals: 1,589 calories and 59 grams of fat

Despite his temporary success, Haub does not recommend replicating his snack-centric diet.

"I'm not geared to say this is a good thing to do," he said. "I'm stuck in the middle. I guess that's the frustrating part. I can't give a concrete answer. There's not enough information to do that."

Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.

Families who live in food deserts have limited access to fresh fruits and vegetables, so they often rely on the kind of food Haub was eating.

"These foods are consumed by lots of people," he said. "It may be an issue of portion size and moderation rather than total removal. I just think it's unrealistic to expect people to totally drop these foods for vegetables and fruits. It may be healthy, but not realistic."

Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent. This posed the question: What matters more for weight loss, the quantity or quality of calories?

His success is probably a result of caloric reduction, said Dawn Jackson Blatner, a dietitian based in Atlanta, Georgia.

"It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story."

Blatner, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association, said she's not surprised to hear Haub's health markers improved even when he
loaded up on processed snack cakes.

Being overweight is the central problem that leads to complications like high blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol, she said.
How well are you managing your diabetes?

"When you lose weight, regardless of how you're doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods, generally you will see these markers improve when weight loss has improved," she said.

Before jumping on the Ding Dong bandwagon, Blatner warned of health concerns.

"There are things we can't measure," said Blatner, questioning how the lack of fruits and vegetables could affect long-term health. "How much does that affect the risk for cancer? We can't measure how diet changes affect our health."
I was eating healthier, but I wasn't healthy. I was eating too much.

On August 25, Haub, 41, started his cake diet focusing on portion control.
"I'm eating to the point of need and pushing the plate or wrapper away," he said.

He intended the trial to last a month as a teaching tool for his class. As he lost weight, Haub continued the diet until he reached a normal body mass index.

Before his Twinkie diet, he tried to eat a healthy diet that included whole grains, dietary fiber, berries and bananas, vegetables and occasional treats like pizza.

"There seems to be a disconnect between eating healthy and being healthy," Haub said. "It may not be the same. I was eating healthier, but I wasn't healthy. I was eating too much."

He maintained the same level of moderate physical activity as before going on the diet. (Haub does not have any ties to the snack cake companies.)
To avoid setting a bad example for his kids, Haub ate vegetables in front of his family. Away from the dinner table, he usually unwrapped his meals.
Haub monitored his body composition, blood pressure, cholesterol and glucose, and updated his progress on his Facebook page, Professor Haub's diet experiment.

To curb calories, he avoided meat, whole grains and fruits. Once he started adding meat into the diet four weeks ago, his cholesterol level increased.
Haub plans to add about 300 calories to his daily intake now that he's done with the diet. But he's not ditching snack cakes altogether. Despite his weight loss, Haub feels ambivalence.

"I wish I could say the outcomes are unhealthy. I wish I could say it's healthy. I'm not confident enough in doing that. That frustrates a lot of people. One side says it's irresponsible. It is unhealthy, but the data doesn't say that."
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...sor/index.html

_Hotsauce_ 11-08-2010 05:11 PM

Pretty sure the title should be ``That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

Oleophobic 11-08-2010 06:35 PM

but if you're already at 33.4% which is pretty fat, you can pretty much just drop calories while eating junk and still lose fat (with muscle along with that).
As bf gets lower like sub 20% and approaching 10%, quality of calories starts to have a more significant impact on fat loss.

trancehead 11-08-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by T.T (Post 7178505)
but if you're already at 33.4% which is pretty fat, you can pretty much just drop calories while eating junk and still lose fat (with muscle along with that).
As bf gets lower like sub 20% and approaching 10%, quality of calories starts to have a more significant impact on fat loss.

i agree

this articles full of horseshit

b0unce. [?] 11-08-2010 07:41 PM

i literally have never had a twinkie in my life. does it even taste any good?

shawn79 11-08-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 7178606)
i literally have never had a twinkie in my life. does it even taste any good?

moist pound cake with cheap whip cream in the middle

MG1 11-08-2010 10:04 PM

More like shortcake with light icing in the middle.

Not moist. Spongy maybe..........

Pound cake is actually pretty good. Heavier.

Anyway..............

LiquidTurbo 11-08-2010 10:53 PM

What a fucking idiot. What kind of fucking professor does this shit?

rsx 11-09-2010 12:35 AM

what's the sugar count!?

lgman 11-09-2010 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 7178911)
What a fucking idiot. What kind of fucking professor does this shit?

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2...age548613g.jpg

Steak anyone?

goo3 11-09-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 7178911)
What a fucking idiot. What kind of fucking professor does this shit?

a fat one who can emphasize portion control to his fat students

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His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.

AccordCouped 11-09-2010 01:12 AM

junk food is just hyped up by the media

Nightwalker 11-09-2010 05:46 AM

Cool, I've done similar myself. Losing weight on all McDonalds during Monopoly and the such.

danizer 11-09-2010 08:10 AM

someone is gonna have diabetes pretty soon

gdoh 11-09-2010 08:24 AM

what a garbage diet

InvisibleSoul 11-09-2010 09:20 AM

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For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
It's not like junk food was all that he was eating... pretty weak study, in my opinion.

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whole milk: 150 calories; 8 grams of fat

baby carrots: 18 calories; 0 grams of fat

Muscle Milk Protein Shake: 240 calories; 9 grams of fat

Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.

Meowjin 11-09-2010 10:16 AM

I totally agree. IT's all about caloric count although processed foods are the devil.

orange7 11-09-2010 11:03 AM

internet.

don't believe everything you read.

bengy 11-09-2010 01:09 PM

Soooo, if you stop eating like a pig, you'll also stop looking like one?!!!

kazuki 11-09-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by danizer (Post 7179168)
someone is gonna have diabetes pretty soon

Being overweight puts him at risk of diabetes. Hes actually losing weight so he is decreasing his risk for developing type 2 diabetes.

If he already has diabetes then all the sugar from the twinkies is a bad idea. If he doesn't have diabetes then its fine.

SkinnyPupp 11-09-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kazuki (Post 7179833)
Being overweight puts him at risk of diabetes. Hes actually losing weight so he is decreasing his risk for developing type 2 diabetes.

If he already has diabetes then all the sugar from the twinkies is a bad idea. If he doesn't have diabetes then its fine.

That is worthy of the EPIC FACEPALM (click to zoom)

http://pic.phyrefile.com/n/na/narf/2...4/facepalm.jpg

kazuki 11-09-2010 06:11 PM

Why is there something wrong with what I said?

lol nice pic

SkinnyPupp 11-09-2010 06:13 PM

Just that you are completely wrong about what causes type II diabetes, and are blindly following the advice given by those who want to do nothing more than keep people on diabetes and sell drugs to them.

kazuki 11-09-2010 06:22 PM

Find me evidence that eating sugar can lead to insulin resistance. I can't seem to find any. I feel like that it is a common misconception that eating sugar leads to diabetes.

Being overweight, abdominal fat, lack of exercise and genetics are proven risk factors for diabetes.

BTW I don't blindly follow advice given to me.

SkinnyPupp 11-09-2010 06:24 PM

:facepalm: is all I'm gonna say


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