don't want to go college because of too many asians

[LiquidTurbo]

Macleans being trolls, or trying to boost readership I think.

[TheKingdom2000]

Originally Posted by dachinesedude

That MacLeans article was really interesting, some parts of it are so true too

If it is scientifically proven that Asians are smarter than others, then they can complain. But there is no such thing, so what are they ranting about? Blaming Asians for their own lack of determination, they're just fucking lazy to work hard and are afraid of a little competition

If they think its hard to get into a university here in Canada, they should really visit Asia

Umm even if it were scientifically proven what does that matter?
black men/woman have more muscle mass than any other race. That is a fact. It's not fair, but no one really complains.

Besides, I don't care if you're black white yellow or green. If you're the best at what you do, I want your services. I don't want a doctor who only knows 60% of his/her shit. So if on average ill have an asian MD then so be it.

Though it's not that asians are smarter which is why there are more asians at UBC. It's just that there are so many more of us I feel in vancouver. Ie. Say 1/5 kids are going to university. And in vancouver there are 10,000 asians who graduate and only 2000 white kids that graduate (not that white kids don't graduate, just that there is a higher asian population which merits the higher graduation rate) so the absolute number of asians going to UBC is higher. But, the % from each population that goes to UBC is the same it's just the number from each population is different
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[TheKingdom2000]

Originally Posted by anti_rice

And this is why if you walk down hastings all you see are caucasian homeless people and very rarely do you ever see an homeless asian person.

This is true. Honestly, imo asians are harder working on average. At every job I've had, the white people barely work. At VCH all the immigrants that were there bust their ass. Not just asians, all the immigrants. But, the caucasian workers seem to just chill and take their time doing the work. This is what I've noticed.

I think the reason why you don't see homeless asian people as often is because even if they can't find a job they'll at least be digging for those cans.
I don't see an asian just sitting around doing nth.
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[Meowjin]

it's called opium lounges. Oh wait.

[MindBomber]

Originally Posted by mx703

This is true. Honestly, imo asians are harder working on average. At every job I've had, the white people barely work. At VCH all the immigrants that were there bust their ass. Not just asians, all the immigrants. But, the caucasian workers seem to just chill and take their time doing the work. This is what I've noticed.

I think the reason why you don't see homeless asian people as often is because even if they can't find a job they'll at least be digging for those cans.
I don't see an asian just sitting around doing nth.
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Have you considered that its generally not the impoverished Asians, with a poor upbringing and genetic pre-dispositions for drug and alcohol abuse that can afford to emigrate. Whereas its that segment of the Canadian population that is most likely to be shooting up on hastings. Its those Asians who have at least comfortable finances or a good education, who come to Canada. I'm pretty sure a lower percentage of Asian teens in Asia drive GR-1s than in Canada.

[Hondaracer]

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[twitchyzero]

this is why i'm againist BC secondary schools opting out of provincial exams. There is no standardizing exams which can account for grade inflation which will just drive up admission averages. It's pretty bullshit that sketchy private colleges can hand out inflated grades for those overseas Chinese student. The only thing really stopping these folks is the LPI. I also see out-of-province students getting in pretty easy too since they don't have a standardized admission.

and quite honestly my experience at UBC is that those that can't speak fluent English generally don't make up a huge percentage of an undergrad class. For MBA/Grad school it's different IMO.

When i entered university few years ago the average was already 90%. It's hard to believe that it's probably going up a little higher now that the provincial exams are gone.

[Brianrietta]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

I'm exactly the same way.
If I only get 80% on a midterm, but I was as well prepared as possible, I'm satisfied.
If I only get 80%, and I wasn't prepared for it, because I partied all weekend, I'll be pissed at myself!

I could care less if I'm in the top or bottom 5% of my class, as long as I do my best.

See, when I get 80% on a midterm because I partied all weekend and wasn't prepared for it, I throw another fucking party to celebrate not getting 50% on it.

Personally, I couldn't care less what my grades are provided I'm somewhere in the top 35% of the class. So long as I am continuing to make the contacts and develop the relationships that I'll need once I'm back out in the workforce again, I'm content.

[Sid Vicious]

an education is what YOU make out of it

there are unsuccessful highly educated people and vice versa. the variable here is a person's own determination

but i doubt many socially retarded people will be successful

[bcedhk]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

this is why i'm againist BC secondary schools opting out of provincial exams. There is no standardizing exams which can account for grade inflation which will just drive up admission averages. It's pretty bullshit that sketchy private colleges can hand out inflated grades for those overseas Chinese student. The only thing really stopping these folks is the LPI. I also see out-of-province students getting in pretty easy too since they don't have a standardized admission.

and quite honestly my experience at UBC is that those that can't speak fluent English generally don't make up a huge percentage of an undergrad class. For MBA/Grad school it's different IMO.

When i entered university few years ago the average was already 90%. It's hard to believe that it's probably going up a little higher now that the provincial exams are gone.

the best option for universities is for every faculty to not just look at grades, but to review also community involvement, work experience, and extra curricular activities. But thats impossible to do because universities do not have the man power to do so, plus they probably wont give a shit what kind of students they take. As long as they get $ (especially from international students) , thats all they care about.... When they have $$, they can hire and bring in well-known profs and researchers to their school and stand out (e.g. UBC).

Just look at SFU, they are willing to invite international students with a 2.5CGPA average, thats like a C+ which is soooo easy to accomplish if you finish your HW and study a bit for exams....

[jigga250]

Originally Posted by anti_rice

how am i racist? go take a look. go take a walk and see for yourself. I'm purely stating the obvious. Not to mention i've spoken to many of them and ask why they don't find jobs and their response is "cuz i don't want to. Why work when i can get welfare"

I've had this conversation before with caucasian co-workers and they themselves are ashamed of the fact that it's mostly their race who are to lazy to find jobs and like to take advantage of tax payers money.

Maybe thats because you're in CANADA!?!? Do you think the country is going to go out of its way to attract homeless chinese immigrants?

I don't mind all the try-hards who spend all their time studying, trying to get the best grades. In the real world, grades aren't everything and MANY companies value social skills and ability to work with others just as much or more than what marks you got.

Straight A's may get you the interview, but when they realize you have no communication skills, or life experience outside of studying alone in your basement, good luck getting the job.

[drunkrussian]

i'm not even sure it's an asian thing, so much as an immigrant thing. I'm not talking about the top grades, but rather the mindset - of getting your bang for your buck. I found it was usually the people born here, who are generational canadians, and who want this whole "good time experience" and don't really give a shit about grades and major in General Studies. The rest of us still wanna have fun, but we know that ultimately we're there for a degree.

If u wanna blow tens of thousands of dollars on just having a good time, University's not the best choice.

[bengy]

Originally Posted by eddy89

by work experience I mean working P/T and co-ops. "how the fuck" do you get a job ready for you after college? Are you implying during your graduation an employer is gonna be waiting for you to come in and work for them? LOL

And yes, university doesn't guarantee a career, but you can say the same any other schools. There was an article about how there are thousands of janitors with PH.D degrees, but does that mean anything? Nope.

University gives you greater oppertunites for bigger companies... when do you ever see the big 4 accounting firms recruiting at VCC? probably never.

Actually yes, my employer came and recruited a bunch of us at BCIT.

[Arash]

Originally Posted by MindBomber

. No one commits a decade of their lives to become a doctor, engineer, architect, lawyer or professor, because they want respect and status; people choose those careers for personal fulfillment and the financial rewards. The respect and status those professions receive is almost entirely within their own fields.

....

The respect given by society is what your referring to, and that has fuck all to do with what letters you have behind your name. That respect has to do with the car you drive, the size of your house and where you live.

Nicely said, I think you answered the question in this thread.

[yohoho]

I guess i better step up my game if i want to win against these other asians

[TouringTeg]

We are all competing on a global scale. Compete or be left behind.

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by eddy89

the best option for universities is for every faculty to not just look at grades, but to review also community involvement, work experience, and extra curricular activities. But thats impossible to do because universities do not have the man power to do so, plus they probably wont give a shit what kind of students they take.

Excellent point. imagine going over 8,000 to 10,000 supplemental applications a year in a 3 months span.

and quite honestly people will just exaggerate their hours or attend one single meeting and put it in their app unless they request reference letter to all activities.

[Marco911]

Originally Posted by rslater

I own my own business.

While I do respect entrepreneuralism, you just proved my point - it was better for you to work for yourself than your next best alternative (Starbucks?)

[Marco911]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

Excellent point. imagine going over 8,000 to 10,000 supplemental applications a year in a 3 months span.

and quite honestly people will just exaggerate their hours or attend one single meeting and put it in their app unless they request reference letter to all activities.

Admission dept resources are not an issue. Top American universities charge a couple of hundred $ for application fees. You gotta pay to play.

[Marco911]

Originally Posted by AME_VIP

We are all competing on a global scale. Compete or be left behind.

You assume that the world works based on pure meritocracy. It does not.

[PiuYi]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

this is why i'm againist BC secondary schools opting out of provincial exams. There is no standardizing exams which can account for grade inflation which will just drive up admission averages. It's pretty bullshit that sketchy private colleges can hand out inflated grades for those overseas Chinese student. The only thing really stopping these folks is the LPI. I also see out-of-province students getting in pretty easy too since they don't have a standardized admission.

When i entered university few years ago the average was already 90%. It's hard to believe that it's probably going up a little higher now that the provincial exams are gone.

theres no provincial exams anymore?~?~ whattt theeee fuckkkkkkkkkkkk

[MindBomber]

Originally Posted by Marco911

Admission dept resources are not an issue. Top American universities charge a couple of hundred $ for application fees. You gotta pay to play.

When I left high school I applied to UBC, SFU and UVic, so I wouldn't need to worry about not getting in somewhere. At $50 for each school that wasn't an issue, but if each school was $250 it would have been.
Finances should never be a barrier to receiving an education, and for many people they already are; raising tuition rates or fees is not an answer to any problem.

[MindBomber]

Originally Posted by PiuYi

theres no provincial exams anymore?~?~ whattt theeee fuckkkkkkkkkkkk

There are provincials, but they're optional.

[Jun_Y]

ok, here's my 2 cents into this. I graduated high school early had pretty good grades considering i even slept through half of one of my provincials and still passed it.

All the people that complain or bitch and whine about UBC being a school of a billion chinese kids taking over the population in school are a mix of canadian chinese and international chinese from china or hong kong. Yes, the fact that they pay more the schools are more than welcome those who pay more to go attend at their institution like any other place weather it may be BCIT or UBC or SFU or even any other college. The fact is, and I'm not being racist because i'm half chinese myself, is that chinese way of thinking is the "image" of their kids. And all you chinese folks out there don't lie cuz you know its true when I say that your mom and dad want to brag to other parents or family and others that their son or daughter is a University grad from who the hell cares and so you're educated and even if you hold a degree you can still be a dumb ass with no common sense. With that piece of paper stating you're a graduate, doesn't mean that they'll find a good career since a job requires you to be a self sufficient worker and blah blah blah with people skills as well as wait for it.................................ENGLISH!!!!!

These "skills" aren't in a book that can be studied which is why they won't contribute to society THAT much.

I know guys at work who barely speak the english language and are probably soon to be on the cutting block because they just don't get it and have little skill YET they have a piece of paper saying they could do the job. But in the end, it comes down to you can do it or you can't.

[Jgresch]

Actually, reading a post a couple pages back just now brought something to mind.... I have nothing against any race, in fact I have a lot of close friends that are azn, brown and black, and I also don't mind being in a school full of non-white people.

But what does actually piss me off, is peer editing a girls work in my class who has worse spelling and grammar skills than my cat. It is obvious some people have a terribly hard time with english, and if they want to take a job dealing with people eventually, how the fuck are they going to succeed?

IMO, if you are going to an English based school, you should need to take a couple years practicing before applying. I actually feel bad knowing a lot of the people aren't understanding the material in the courses because of the language barrier. I'm sure they are very smart, but without the English skills they are going to have a hard time getting some places.