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I understand that as WWII veterans die out coupled with influx of immigrants, it may make remembrance day seem less significant...but let's not forget the Canadians that died in various peacekeeping operations in the 90's and more recently in Afghanistan. Sure, those depolyment may not have the same extent of threat to the Canadian psyche when compared to the "homefront" from German/Japanese invasion...we should still give them the same level of respect.
My buddies parents are from India and his grandfather served in WWII.
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Every year though, I somehow find myself reading this
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In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Thank you, to all the brave men and women, who have served, serving, fought and fighting for your bravery and efforts in protecting the rights and freedoms which we take for granted today.
I am grateful for those who risked their lives so that we could live the lives we have today. Thank you Canadians, Russians, Britain, Americans, French, Australians, and all others who bravely fought back in a very dangerous and hopeless time.
I wish that people today look back at WWII and realize that war is not simply a thing of the past. Nobody thought WWII would happen, and the consequences were tragic when it did.
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I wish that people today look back at WWII and realize that war is not simply a thing of the past. Nobody thought WWII would happen, and the consequences were tragic when it did.
Um, not to connote the importance of WWII, but Remembrance Day actually originated for WWI as it was 11/11/1918 when the war ended..
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Operation Overlord was worse than hell on Earth and tens of thousands of men lost their lives in a matter of hours. A little respect in a REMEMBRANCE DAY THREAD would be nice.
I've been wearing a shirt with that printed on it around town quite a bit lately. I receive a lot of positive comments from random people on the street, yesterday especially as well as last month on John Lennon's bday.
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BTW, if you haven't before, watch just the opening sequence of Saving Private Ryan: that depicts Operation Overlord... and as I said to my friend after we watched the movie for the first time, that was some of the most real moviemaking I've ever seen. Not "realistic"... REAL. Fucking intense.
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Outside the context of this thread, it's actually worth a chuckle... but I agree, within the context of the thread, that was a bit tacky.
BTW, if you haven't before, watch just the opening sequence of Saving Private Ryan: that depicts Operation Overlord... and as I said to my friend after we watched the movie for the first time, that was some of the most real moviemaking I've ever seen. Not "realistic"... REAL. Fucking intense.
check out the Bluray and be blown away!
only thing that isnt really depcited in the dday landings is how far the actual beach head was from where the boats landed, it wasnt just a matter of getting past machine gun fire for 500 feet, it was more like 3/4 of a mile
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^ Actually the beach head is about 500 feet or so...but then its not just a big wall/cliff like that until you get to Point Du Hoc or more west of Omaha. The beach head ends then there is a grassy /wooded area before you get to the hill. The hill is not very steep either like it is depicted in the movie. Its more of a gradual climb and there are ravines that run perpendicular to the beach (some with streams).
But yes, you are correct, from the water to the base of the 'cliffs' its a good 2000-3000 feet. You really only get a sense what its really like when you have been there. Guaranteed if anybody else here had been there, they wouldn't be cracking jokes about it on here - especially when you walk amongst 10,000 graves at the memorial before you get to the beach.
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^ Actually the beach head is about 500 feet or so...but then its not just a big wall/cliff like that until you get to Point Du Hoc or more west of Omaha. The beach head ends then there is a grassy /wooded area before you get to the hill. The hill is not very steep either like it is depicted in the movie. Its more of a gradual climb and there are ravines that run perpendicular to the beach (some with streams).
But yes, you are correct, from the water to the base of the 'cliffs' its a good 2000-3000 feet. You really only get a sense what its really like when you have been there. Guaranteed if anybody else here had been there, they wouldn't be cracking jokes about it on here - especially when you walk amongst 10,000 graves at the memorial before you get to the beach.
Omaha was one of the worst beaches for casualties as well, because the defenses weren't shelled well during the initial bombardment, among other things. The mini-series, i think, does a decent job of recreating the landing. Of course, you can't be exactly 100% accurate about it.
One thing to note, which is kind of scary - is one of the notes that veterans made about the movie - is that most of the actors were simply too old. People don't realize just how young these soldiers were. Hell, if I was on that beach, I'd be one of the oldest ones there! Most were 18, 19, 20 years old. Some faked birth certificates just so they could join, and not miss the chance to fight for their country. Of course, they were all scared shitless - but for most of them, it was their choice to do the right thing.
Point Du Hoc got most of the shelling out of any 'beach'. The landscape is still eerily pock-marked and resembles the moon. Despite the heavy German batteries at Point Du Hoc (which are all still there) the planes could come from below the cliffs and pull up to drop their bombs once they cleared the cliffs.
When I visited the site, I saw little kids running up and down the 'hills' which were made by the bombs. It was a very sobering experience to see them playing around the grassy dunes and none of them had any idea how they were made. That image will stay in my mind for the rest of my life.
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My grandfather's name is Mykola Lyubchenko. He began his service in Leningrad on the Soviet front and spent four years of his youth shooting bullets at his fellow man. He ended his service in Kaliningrad, formerly Konigsberg. He is now eighty-six years old. This may be his last Remembrance Day. It's an hour past the 11th but I'm taking a moment now. Thank you to all those who have to deal with horrors so we can eat, sleep and bitch about our petty problems.
east or west alike. there were countless lives that have fallen. they must be remembered.
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my guess:it's the japanese surrendering taiwan to the league of nations (aka UN)
I'm not to sure tho because before WWII the Republic of China did not govern taiwan..so i'm not sure why the flags are there.
that is actually the old china flag. that flag was actually the party that ruled china before 1949, the kuomintang (KMT) before mao kicked their asses, and the remaints of the KMT exiled to the island of Taiwan, it was the flag for China.
the current china flag is the "peoples republic" flag, the red w/ yellow stars.
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