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Old 11-14-2017, 08:34 PM   #6476
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What's the difference between salt and ice melter?

Is it just ice melter is more expensive, but works faster, works at a lower temperature, and safer for pets?


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Salt also does not work (or not effective) at melting ice when it gets below 0? But if you shovel frequently, would salt be more than enough to keep your sidewalks clear?
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Princess Auto has mini shovels on sale for $6.99 (here in Kelowna anyways, are their sales chain-wide?), good for tossing in your trunk in case you get stuck.
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It's puking snow just north of Squamish to Pemberton, it just started about 3:00pm. Earlier in the day, a group of 10 Porsche owners decided to do a trip to Whistler, well, they didn't make it out of Whistler as the popo had them pulled over and was ticketing all of them for not having snow tires. Not sure how they got home.
A bit further up near Pemberton... a Car2Go Smart car in the ditch.
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What's the difference between salt and ice melter?

Is it just ice melter is more expensive, but works faster, works at a lower temperature, and safer for pets?


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Salt stops melting ice when temperatures reach below a certain point (10 to 15 degrees below zero). Ice melter works when salt becomes ineffective. - 40 or something ridiculous like that.

The danger with salt is, it will melt shit then the water will refreeze when temperatures drop further. There are all kinds of mixtures out there that do different things. I'm no chemist, so you'll just have to read what's on the package, as far as effectiveness goes. I've always trusted Alaskan Ice Melt, but there are other brands out there. Anyway, that's about all I know. Just answered because nobody else was posting. Where's godwin when you need him, eh?
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The danger with salt is, it will melt shit then the water will refreeze when temperatures drop further.
Hmm, that's a very good point, never thought about that. But I guess as long as temperature here doesn't drop below the salt's effective temp, it should be ok?
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A bit further up near Pemberton... a Car2Go Smart car in the ditch.
Rear engine RWD car with short wheelbase definitely the best car for occasional drivers in the snow
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Wheres the fucking snow!? i bought a AWD vehicle for this winter and all i get is nice sunny days!? FUCK YOU WEATHER CHANNEL

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and wtf they put on the roads

it's like oil + salt

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Wheres the fucking snow!? i bought a AWD vehicle for this winter and all i get is nice sunny days!? FUCK YOU WEATHER CHANNEL

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What car did you buy?
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and wtf they put on the roads

it's like oil + salt

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This. I got back from a trip to Kelowna this weekend, expecting to wash the car. But once I got home I saw the wheels were black. The roads just outside Merritt looked like someone literally dumped tar on them (only the slow lane though, odd). Had to use the pressure washer to try and get most of it off
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I just fixed some trim vibration noise on my maz and I can't even go test it out due to this brimy shit they have on the roads
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We won't officially be into La Nina until late-January/February, so I'd guess we probably won't be seeing much of the white stuff for at least another several weeks.

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This. I got back from a trip to Kelowna this weekend, expecting to wash the car. But once I got home I saw the wheels were black. The roads just outside Merritt looked like someone literally dumped tar on them (only the slow lane though, odd). Had to use the pressure washer to try and get most of it off
Probably this or something similar
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Well, to whoever thought of this shit. They should take this crap and pour it on their dicks and let it sit for the whole winter.

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Hmm I wonder how much snow we will get and when is the first big dump?
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As long as the brine's flowing and the salt is spreading,it's all good.

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Well, to whoever thought of this shit. They should take this crap and pour it on their dicks and let it sit for the whole winter.

Better that than rock salt.
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Better that than rock salt.
I prefer rock salt. The back of my car has turned from baby blue to gun metal grey and my license plate is obscured.
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I prefer rock salt. The back of my car has turned from baby blue to gun metal grey and my license plate is obscured.
Oh trust me, my car is the exact same. But the brine they use is far less corrosive, so I'm fine with doing an extra car wash or two every month if it means I have less frame and component rust to worry about.
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I prefer rock salt. The back of my car has turned from baby blue to gun metal grey and my license plate is obscured.
Rock salt is usually way more corrosive to metal compared to the special formulas some places use. So to each their own, but no thanks
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Hence the need for winter beaters. My poor poor sportwagen she aint pretty no more.
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