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Old 11-23-2010, 12:29 AM   #51
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if shits really gonna go down, whos got who on their side?

South Korea + US + ??? vs North Korea + ???
This is one of the situations where it's hard to say if the Americans will even react directly towards North Korea, or immediately for that matter.

You'd probably have to determine how the PRC will act if hell does break loose. North Korea's geographic proximity to China serves as a military bulwark from Japan (and by this extension, American military dominance).
It's a delicate situation for South Korea and the Japan/United States alliance, but it's an even more volatile situation for China, which in my opinion will be the sole determinant for the outcomes of any hypothetical conflict.
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The Russians are condemning the artilleries from both sides...
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From my understanding, the conspiracy theories claim that the ship ran aground and it was blamed on North Korea because of the elections that were about to be held around that time. Basically the south blamed the north for its fuck up.

In this case, what does the south have to benefit from this. Did they accidentally shell themselves and then blame it on the North?

I think its more believable that the North actually shelled the south in order to instigate something.

from what i read about the incident is the ship hit a mine or something and the usa needed an excuse to not pull its military out of Japan (because Japan was about to vote for the USA to get out) and so some threat of destabilization would allow them to stay (and well it worked) + some other stuff can't really remember or care that much

but about this? :shrug:
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there are 28000 active american troops stationed in korea right now.

if the north attacks and any of the 28000 soldiers are killed/injured, the US definitely will step in.

fucking north korea...

there are rumours from korean media floating around that kim jong il is dead and his newly appointed predecessor and his youngest son, kim jong un, ordered the attack to

1) show the world that he ain't a softy and he means business

2) show his generals and high ranking political party leaders that he's boss and discourage them from a possible coup fora power struggle


most of you guys don't know but there have been 2 other incidents near that island in the past. they had a quite large navy ship battle where there were casualties on both sides.
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Just destroy north korea already and we all pretend there was never a north korea, rename south korea to "korea island". Reprint all the world maps with water between china and south korea. Problem solved.
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This little conflict will be resolved very quickly IMHO. The world is just coming out the worst recession in a generation, so it is in China and U.S.'s interests as well the two Korea that this particular issue it dealt swiftly through diplomacy and not by the use of force.
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What do guys think of this prophet.
he also had similar prophecys on katrina and other stuff.
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just repeating what someone else has already said on another comment:

China won’t let North Korea attack South Korea any more aggressively as it is a client state of their biggest debtor, not to mention the biggest purchaser of their manufactured goods. No way the elites in China will jeopardize 10% GDP growth for the sake of a madman in Pyongyang.
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^ biggest debtor and biggest purchaser of manuf. goods being the USA.
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there are 28000 active american troops stationed in korea right now.

if the north attacks and any of the 28000 soldiers are killed/injured, the US definitely will step in.

fucking north korea...

there are rumours from korean media floating around that kim jong il is dead and his newly appointed predecessor and his youngest son, kim jong un, ordered the attack to

1) show the world that he ain't a softy and he means business

2) show his generals and high ranking political party leaders that he's boss and discourage them from a possible coup fora power struggle


most of you guys don't know but there have been 2 other incidents near that island in the past. they had a quite large navy ship battle where there were casualties on both sides.
media always speculates KJI is dead.wasnt he on the televised mass parade this year?

I would agree though their attack to be a propaganda act for north koreans to keep them brainwashed.
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Not sure if China would want to back NK, what would China benefit from that?
if north korea fires missles to Taiwan too, would china wants to back them up then?
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President Lee Myung-bak was responding to the shelling of an inhabited island close to a disputed maritime border.

The South returned fire in one of the worst clashes since the Korean War.

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The South Korean military had been carrying out an exercise near Yeonpyeong island, and the North accused the South of opening the hostilities - something Seoul denies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11823474


hmm 2 sides

maybe during the exercise they went over the line (into disputed territories)
maybe something else happened during the exercise (like a stray shell or something)


that island is like right on top of disputed waters


S Korea is going to deploy US Nukes in.. well S. Korea (deploy as in set up)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...eapons-nuclear

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