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JSALES 11-26-2010 05:18 AM

what a dumbass

Great68 11-26-2010 05:53 AM

So many sensationalists in this thread

"ZOMG!!11!! HE WENT 200!!! KILL HIM!!!!"

Have any of you driven that highway?
It's a wide open, smooth, 4 lane highway with big shoulders on both sides, and hardly any traffic on it.The posted limits would be more appropriate at 140-150 than 110.
If there was any highway to do this speed, this would be one of best.

Hondaracer 11-26-2010 06:27 AM

Yea there are straights on that highway so long you can't even see where they lead

Island people...

:troll:
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Death2Theft 11-26-2010 06:55 AM

He'll get to keep his car cuz he wasn't "street racing" anyone else.

Mugen EvOlutioN 11-26-2010 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark0821 (Post 7204089)
ya.. thats pretty fast for a civic... this is the best my friend could pull off during summer in "best driving cond"
taken from facebook

http://www.sfu.ca/~cjs9/034.JPG

but in snow..thats.. is just stupid...

for all those WRC cars..the gear ratio tops out @ 241kph for most courses...

good for him, he deserves an award

Noir 11-26-2010 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthFighter (Post 7204040)
good news: he didn't kill anyone

bad news: he didn't kill himself and win a darwin award.

Becareful what you wish for. Then you'll have a plethora of bleeding hearts boosting their self-righteous points saying, "awww poor kid."

http://www.revscene.net/forums/fatal....html?t=630307

zulutango 11-26-2010 08:06 AM

The driver is from Campbell River and is heading south ( away from CR) towards Courtenay (where they have more snow) to "escape a snowstorm"? Driving that Hwy at 200k plus in summer with no traffic and dry pavement is not safe...now add snow & ice on the hwy and you have a fatal looking for a place to happen. Happy to hear that they got him safely stopped and his notice of driving prohibition served ( he must have been ducking service) before he killed someone. Had 2 people already killed due to overdriving road conditions at speeds way less than 200kmh.

"Have any of you driven that highway?
It's a wide open, smooth, 4 lane highway with big shoulders on both sides, and hardly any traffic on it.The posted limits would be more appropriate at 140-150 than 110.
If there was any highway to do this speed, this would be one of best. "

As someone who worked that area, has driven it at high speed in response to emergencies, and went to the crashes there for years, I would disagree. Most of the crashes involved drivers who thought exactly like you do. Sorry but I disagree. Even taking away the speed related crashes, there are a large number of car vs deer/elk crashes there as well. At 200 k by the time you see one, you are dead.

Great68 11-26-2010 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7204206)
The driver is from Campbell River and is heading south ( away from CR) towards Courtenay (where they have more snow) to "escape a snowstorm"? Driving that Hwy at 200k plus in summer with no traffic and dry pavement is not safe...now add snow & ice on the hwy and you have a fatal looking for a place to happen. Happy to hear that they got him safely stopped and his notice of driving prohibition served ( he must have been ducking service) before he killed someone. Had 2 people already killed due to overdriving road conditions at speeds way less than 200kmh.

"Have any of you driven that highway?
It's a wide open, smooth, 4 lane highway with big shoulders on both sides, and hardly any traffic on it.The posted limits would be more appropriate at 140-150 than 110.
If there was any highway to do this speed, this would be one of best. "

As someone who worked that area, has driven it at high speed in response to emergencies, and went to the crashes there for years, I would disagree. Most of the crashes involved drivers who thought exactly like you do. Sorry but I disagree. Even taking away the speed related crashes, there are a large number of car vs deer/elk crashes there as well. At 200 k by the time you see one, you are dead.

I'm not trying to say what the driver did wasn't wrong.

Not counting road conditions, my point was that if this driver choose to do this where no other cars were around it would be relatively safer than doing the same on other highways (Malahat, Hwy 1 etc), or even safer than doing 110km/h in the city (Yes I consider The Ferrari/BMW Seymour Mountain incident much more dangerous) Taking that into account, I don't feel the same instantaneous outrage as others here simply hearing the "200km/h" number.

If this guy was doing this around other traffic, or swerving in and out of traffic, then fuck him I'm glad he was caught and punished accordingly.
If this guy were to go out of control and careen off the road or hit a deer/elk and die it would be no one's fault but his own, he took his life into his own hands and I wouldn't give any sympathy to him either.

Noir 11-26-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7204237)
I'm not trying to say what the driver did wasn't wrong.

Not counting road conditions, my point was that if this driver choose to do this where no other cars were around it would be relatively safer than doing the same on other highways (Malahat, Hwy 1 etc), or even safer than doing 110km/h in the city (Yes I consider The Ferrari/BMW Seymour Mountain incident much more dangerous) Taking that into account, I don't feel the same instantaneous outrage as others here simply hearing the "200km/h" number.

If this guy was doing this around other traffic, or swerving in and out of traffic, then fuck him I'm glad he was caught and punished accordingly.
If this guy were to go out of control and careen off the road or hit a deer/elk and die it would be no one's fault but his own, he took his life into his own hands and I wouldn't give any sympathy to him either.

So if I were to speed at 160 at Highway 1 within the lower mainland at 3am, it shouldn't be that bad of an offense because it's "relatively safer" at those times due to lack of automobile volume?

Hondaracer 11-26-2010 09:26 AM

There's not one straight on hwy 1 between Vancouver and chilliwack that is as flat or straight as the island hwy
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Death2Theft 11-26-2010 09:30 AM

Not when you know there is construction numbnutz.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 7204273)
So if I were to speed at 160 at Highway 1 within the lower mainland at 3am, it shouldn't be that bad of an offense because it's "relatively safer" at those times due to lack of automobile volume?


Noir 11-26-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7204277)
There's not one straight on hwy 1 between Vancouver and chilliwack that is as flat or straight as the island hwy
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150+ on Highway within the lower mainland is doable. It can handle it. The point is, is it safe or not.

200 on flat stetch like you and Great68 mentioned is doable, but not safe. Like Zulutango mentioned, at those speeds, and slight disturbance is magnified greatly. Whether that disturbance is inert or external (ie. dodging wildlife)

Noir 11-26-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death2Theft (Post 7204279)
Not when you know there is construction numbnutz.

Way to miss the point idiot. And despite your point, I always see motorists every now and then do those speeds well after midnight; despite the construction :rolleyes:

So what do you say about that? Are they justified. Does lack of auto volume + space = free reign on the highways?

Great68 11-26-2010 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 7204273)
So if I were to speed at 160 at Highway 1 within the lower mainland at 3am, it shouldn't be that bad of an offense because it's "relatively safer" at those times due to lack of automobile volume?

Uh yeah, Your risk to other motorists on the highway is definately lower when there are no other motorists on the highway. While it may not be safer to YOU, it's relatively safer to others, therefore safer overall. I don't get what's not understood about that.

Stormspirit 11-26-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7203959)
That fact that its a Civic makes this even worse, it can barely stay on the road going 200km an hour in the best conditions, going in a straight line, driven by an experienced driver. The kid should see jail time.

hes 20, live and learn . Speeding and u get put in jail ? rly... u that hardcore eh

Mugen EvOlutioN 11-26-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 7204273)
So if I were to speed at 160 at Highway 1 within the lower mainland at 3am, it shouldn't be that bad of an offense because it's "relatively safer" at those times due to lack of automobile volume?

sure why not

1exotic 11-26-2010 11:01 AM

like others above said, it was a straight wide open fucking road..... grow some balls, 200km is no big deal....

Mugen EvOlutioN 11-26-2010 11:27 AM

people go OMFG WTF BBQ expression when they hear people go above 120km

HOLLY SHIT HOW ARE YOU GONNA STOP WHEN YOU DO 121km
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

if u are in a tercel than ya..
:rolleyes:




160-180km can be reached in no time......jesus ppl

3am in the morning a straight road that goes on and on for 3-5km +

would you not wonna rip that asshole up when u are the only car on the road?


NO im gonna do 79km just so i can obey the law

:bullshit:

MindBomber 11-26-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormspirit (Post 7204347)
hes 20, live and learn . Speeding and u get put in jail ? rly... u that hardcore eh

Your ignoring the other circumstances. He's a driver under probation, so clearly he hasn't learned from lesser penalties. Its time to step it up before he kills someone else.


Some stretches of highway 1 can handle 160km/p, the island highway definitely can, but the cars can't. The average driver is on tires with a P or Q rating at best, not ZR tires built to handle autobahn level speeds.

TouringTeg 11-26-2010 12:36 PM

Having lived in Courtenay I can definitely attest to how wide open, straight and smooth the island highway is in that region. I have to agree that the speed limit could easily be raised from 110. Perhaps we should have two limits like in Europe for good and poor weather conditions.

An inexperienced driver doing 200k on a snow covered road is nuts

tofu1413 11-26-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 7204398)
people go OMFG WTF BBQ expression when they hear people go above 120km

HOLLY SHIT HOW ARE YOU GONNA STOP WHEN YOU DO 121km
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

if u are in a tercel than ya..
:rolleyes:




160-180km can be reached in no time......jesus ppl

3am in the morning a straight road that goes on and on for 3-5km +

would you not wonna rip that asshole up when u are the only car on the road?


NO im gonna do 79km just so i can obey the law

:bullshit:

with our cars.. it doesnt take too long.. :D


bloodmack 11-26-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7204277)
There's not one straight on hwy 1 between Vancouver and chilliwack that is as flat or straight as the island hwy
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mabye not, but im pretty sure theres enough of a straight to hit 200km

Mugen EvOlutioN 11-26-2010 01:50 PM

more than enough

tofu1413 11-26-2010 01:53 PM

+1 to more than enough.

its just if you're willing to.

oh hell, look at Kinght street bridge all the way to the end at westminster.

all those deaths over the years, with people doing in excess of 200km/h+ easily. any car could do it. its more than enough room. just a matter of guts and if you're insane/ inconsiderate enough to do it.

Great68 11-26-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AME_VIP (Post 7204468)
Having lived in Courtenay I can definitely attest to how wide open, straight and smooth the island highway is in that region. I have to agree that the speed limit could easily be raised from 110. Perhaps we should have two limits like in Europe for good and poor weather conditions.

That's a good suggestion. Dual limits is a great idea.

Actually a friend of one of my uncles is a Highway designer in France.
One of his comments was that stretch of highway would easily be 140 in Europe.


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