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Sid Vicious 11-27-2010 02:28 PM

what does this actually accomplish?

another cartel will simply fill the power vacuum once one is vacated.

Manic! 11-27-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid Vicious (Post 7205734)
what does this actually accomplish?

another cartel will simply fill the power vacuum once one is vacated.

So they should do nothing and let the drug dealers run the country?

Sid Vicious 11-27-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7205746)
So they should do nothing and let the drug dealers run the country?

did i say that?

what happened when escobar's cartel was killed? did the violence disappear? did the drug trade stop? what happened when al capone was thrown in jail?

show my how successful the current war on drugs is.

Black240Sx 11-27-2010 03:06 PM

In all fairness, a heavy hand can work. It just has to be REALLY heavy.. the government needs to be the mob. Look at China.. they dont have a drug problem. You mess with drugs they kill you no questions asked.

These central american counties are out of control, I think what they're doing is good and is necesarry to bring the situation under control. For too long they've just let the drug cartels run the show with little or no intervention.

darkfroggy 11-27-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Black240Sx (Post 7205763)
In all fairness, a heavy hand can work. It just has to be REALLY heavy.. the government needs to be the mob. Look at China.. they dont have a drug problem. You mess with drugs they kill you no questions asked.

These central american counties are out of control, I think what they're doing is good and is necesarry to bring the situation under control. For too long they've just let the drug cartels run the show with little or no intervention.

China doesn't have a drug problem?

You know this... because the Chinese media tells you?

whateverman 11-27-2010 03:12 PM

if Canada does any of this it would cost the tax payer million
and we know Canadian love getting fuck in the ass with tax

drunkrussian 11-27-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whateverman (Post 7205768)
if Canada does any of this it would cost the tax payer million
and we know Canadian love getting fuck in the ass with tax

"canadian" would be better off spending those "million" on more grammar and spelling textbooks, wouldn't you say?
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MindBomber 11-27-2010 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black240Sx (Post 7205763)
In all fairness, a heavy hand can work. It just has to be REALLY heavy.. the government needs to be the mob. Look at China.. they dont have a drug problem. You mess with drugs they kill you no questions asked.

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Originally Posted by darkfroggy (Post 7205766)
China doesn't have a drug problem?

You know this... because the Chinese media tells you?

A heavy hand can be effective, if its extremely heavy, to the point to of Iranian/NK/Chinese style excess. Other factors, such as economic stability and cultural acceptance are more important in the sources behind per capita drug use.

Mr.C 11-27-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by drunkrussian (Post 7205461)
its called "city of god". was nominated for oscars a few years ago. check it out, one of my favorites
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Nope, It's actually called Elite Squad. City of God was based on Rio in the 80's. Elite Squad is more current. Worth the watch, but it is a bit violent, even by north american standards. Original title is 'Tropa de Elite'.

Bonjour43MA 11-27-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil@rise (Post 7205568)
Wanna bet theres a reason why photographers in war torn places end up dead.
I'm not sayin this particular photo wasn't staged but these photographers put themselves in extreme harms way all the time to get that great shot and bring home some realism to whats going on for those that don't see first hand.
They also have great lenses to catch the action from a distance.


that shot was taken by a wide angle lens. You can tell by how the rifle itself is "stretched" within the frame, and the relatively large depth of field in front/behind the soldier - the cameraman was literally inches away from the rifle.

drunkrussian 11-28-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.C (Post 7206100)
Nope, It's actually called Elite Squad. City of God was based on Rio in the 80's. Elite Squad is more current. Worth the watch, but it is a bit violent, even by north american standards. Original title is 'Tropa de Elite'.

sweet, ill download that, thanks! gonna be hard to top city of god!
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StaxBundlez 11-28-2010 02:51 PM

But when the police need help... they call these guys.

BOPE

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...veira_bope.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOPE

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...10px-BOPE2.jpg
Batalhão de Operações Policiais Especiais (Portuguese for Special Police Operations Battalion), mostly known by its acronym BOPE, is a special forces unit of the Military Police of Rio de Janeiro State, Brazil.

Paulo Thiago from the UFC is actually part of BOPE



"when the police need help... they call BOPE.."
lol

asian_speedster 11-29-2010 06:31 PM

more pictures

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201..._drug_war.html

http://inapcache.boston.com/universa...9_26128863.jpg

This guy is bad ass.

CP.AR 11-29-2010 07:11 PM

http://inapcache.boston.com/universa...8_26119311.jpg

DONT MOVE OR WE ARE GOING TO SHOOT...... PICTURES AND VIDEO

but wow, those jouralists... holy shit that takes balls

Nightwalker 11-29-2010 11:10 PM

I love drugs, but I hate gangs, so go Brazil!

DragonChi 11-30-2010 07:57 AM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0861739/

theSpeedSyndicate 11-30-2010 11:43 AM

http://acidcow.com/pics/15331-drug-k...th-justin.html

I thought this was halarious

BIEBER FEVER!!!

AutozamAZ-3 11-30-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by theSpeedSyndicate (Post 7209177)
http://acidcow.com/pics/15331-drug-k...th-justin.html

I thought this was halarious

BIEBER FEVER!!!

either he has a 14 year old daughter or he has a deep dark secret no one should know about..

SlySi 12-01-2010 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spyker (Post 7205534)
Oh I'm not crying,I'm just stating the facts.If your face was not burried in books all these years in school,maybe you would have seen what the real world is about(you still can,it's not too late),not what the books and teachers tell you.

However,it's nice to see a poor country like Brazil actually spend the little money they do have fighting real crime that actually makes a difference in the community.

This is far from the facts.
You have no clue what you are talking about.

Tapioca 12-01-2010 01:09 PM

The fact that people in this thread are comparing the Downtown Eastside to what's going on in Central America is simply ridiculous. It's not like gangs here are setting cars and buildings on fire in the DTES.

Believe it or not, you can actually walk on Hastings between Main and Caroll and not get mugged.

belka 12-01-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7210712)
Believe it or not, you can actually walk on Hastings between Main and Caroll and not get mugged.

Question is, why would you walk on Hastings between Main and Caroll?

When we stayed at Ballentine Pier during the Olympics, they specifically told us to avoid that area unless you were with an entourage. If you go looking for trouble, its very easy to find it.

quasi 12-01-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 7210712)
The fact that people in this thread are comparing the Downtown Eastside to what's going on in Central America is simply ridiculous. It's not like gangs here are setting cars and buildings on fire in the DTES.

Believe it or not, you can actually walk on Hastings between Main and Caroll and not get mugged.

LOL, someone tried to stab me with a needle right at that location at 6:30am during the week, that was many years ago. I was on my way to work and the irony of it is we were working at the police station. The only thing that kept that psycho away from me was one of these.

http://images.orgill.com/200x200/6440226.jpg

penner2k 12-01-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StaxBundlez (Post 7206789)
But when the police need help... they call these guys.

BOPE

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...veira_bope.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOPE

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...10px-BOPE2.jpg
Batalhão de Operações Policiais Especiais (Portuguese for Special Police Operations Battalion), mostly known by its acronym BOPE, is a special forces unit of the Military Police of Rio de Janeiro State, Brazil.

Paulo Thiago from the UFC is actually part of BOPE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM-9iRGykPU

"when the police need help... they call BOPE.."
lol


There is a movie called Elite Squad that is based on missions done by BOPE in 1997. If BOPE is looking for someone its not to take them into custody. They just execute them on the spot. They are pretty much known as a death squad..

CanadaGoose 12-01-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 7210742)
LOL, someone tried to stab me with a needle right at that location at 6:30am during the week, that was many years ago. I was on my way to work and the irony of it is we were working at the police station. The only thing that kept that psycho away from me was one of these.

http://images.orgill.com/200x200/6440226.jpg

Fucking crackheads :facepalm: ...good thing you were armed

A shingle hammer is probably the more lethal, but 'friendlier' looking version of this:

http://www.besportier.com/archives/p...e-and-tool.jpg Kabaar Becker hammer tool

InvisibleSoul 01-08-2011 11:32 PM

Ridiculous stuff down in Mexico...

http://www.news1130.com/news/world/a...capulco-resort

Quote:

Bloody spree of 27 killings - including 14 decapitations - stuns Mexico's Acapulco resort

ACAPULCO, Mexico - The image of this beach mecca has taken a new hit from Mexico's drug violence, with 27 people killed in less than a day, including 14 men whose bodies were found with their heads chopped off at a shopping centre.

Acapulco has seen fierce turf wars between drug gangs, and the bloodshed is scaring some vacationers away even though little of the violence happens in tourist areas.

The decapitation slayings and most of the other killings that occurred in a stretch of just a few hours from Friday night into Saturday also occurred in non-tourism areas. But two police officers were shot to death on a major bayside avenue in front of visitors and locals.

The 14 headless bodies, and a 15th intact corpse, were found by police on a street outside a shopping centre accompanied by written warnings from a drug cartel, authorities said.

Handwritten signs left with the bodies were signed by "El Chapo's People," a reference to the Sinaloa cartel, which is headed by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, said Fernando Monreal Leyva, director of investigative police for Guerrero state, where Acapulco is located.

The narco-messages indicated the Sinaloa cartel killed the 15 men for trying to intrude on the gang's turf and extort residents.

Mexico's drug cartels have increasingly taken to beheading their victims in a grisly show of force, but Saturday's discovery was the largest single group of decapitation victims found in recent years.

In 2008, a group of 12 decapitated bodies were piled outside the Yucatan state capital of Merida. The same year, nine headless men were discovered in the Guerrero state capital of Chilpancingo.

Also killed Saturday in Acapulco were the two police officers; six people who were shot dead and stuffed in a taxi, their hands and feet bound; and four others elsewhere in the city. Two police officers were wounded when armed men attacked a police post in the city's Emiliano Zapata district.

"We are co-ordinating with federal forces and local police to reinforce security in Acapulco and investigating to try to establish the motive and perpetrators of these incidents," Monreal said.

The wave of violence in one of Mexico's biggest resorts was condemned by the federal government.

"Reprehensible acts of violence such as these underscore the need to fight with determination against organized crime," a statement from the Interior Ministry said.

At least 30,196 people have died in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderon launched an offensive against cartels in late 2006.

Also Saturday, authorities said a small-town mayor was found dead in northern Mexico.

Saul Vara Rivera, mayor of the municipality of Zaragoza, was reported missing by family members Wednesday, Coahuila state prosecutors said in a statement. His bullet-ridden body was discovered Friday in neighbouring Nuevo Leon state.

There were no immediate arrests.

At least a dozen mayors were killed nationwide last year in acts of intimidation attributed to drug gangs.


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