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ynot-llat 12-03-2010 04:01 PM

Canadian Justice system is a big fail.
 
Dude kills 2 people with his Porsche and severely injures a third person gets 5 years.

Kid gets in a fight, knife is pulled on him a struggle ensues. He ends up taking the knife from the kid and using it against him.
Gets life sentence no parole for 10 years.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Jos...826/story.html

IMASA 12-03-2010 04:07 PM

Not to mention that kid's mom DUI's and kills 4 yr old girl and gets 2 years.

Gnomes 12-03-2010 04:15 PM

And dont forget about Robert Latimer - the father who euthanize his severely disabled daughter who was suffering every day of her life.

StaxBundlez 12-03-2010 04:27 PM

^ u got a link to that story?

Eatman 12-03-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StaxBundlez (Post 7213578)
^ u got a link to that story?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/latimer/

Gnomes 12-03-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StaxBundlez (Post 7213578)
^ u got a link to that story?

or this if you want video and too lazy to read:
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories...Parole-101130/

Bonjour43MA 12-03-2010 06:18 PM

Our legal system is shit. Simple as that.

If someone pulled a knife on me and tried to kill me, am I supposed to stand there and let the person stab me til I'm dead? Hells no, you defend yourself anyway you can, and in this case, you try to disarm him by taking his knife away. I suppose where the guy did wrong was then using that knife against his attacker, instead of backing off to stablize the situation... We have this weird law where "force-for-force" has to be established, meaning, if I were to use a knife on my attacker, he would also have to have a knife at the same time as well, otherwise I'd be charged for using unnecessary lethal force.

It is definitely wrong to kill someone, but if this was in the US I wonder what the outcome would've been like - they're certainly more lenient on the right to defend yourself when faced with peril.

Ironic how his mom was also sentenced recently for killing 2 people with her car while driving intoxicated... instant karma these days eh? Crazy.

Gh0stRider 12-03-2010 06:39 PM

Ya fuck the system.
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Mugen EvOlutioN 12-03-2010 06:43 PM

what a pile of whoreshit

seriously which moron makes these fucked up laws


i hope they face an attacker themself, than they will realize geee maybe our justice system is a bit on the weak side


:rolleyes::bullshit:

Gnomes 12-03-2010 07:24 PM

I think out legal system needs a major overhaul. Too many outdated crap, defend rights of offender vs victim, etc

StylinRed 12-03-2010 07:49 PM

i dont agree with the sentence of this case either but to blame the justice system... god you don't know how many times i hear that i bet its like what the police feel when they hear me or you guys bitching about what they do

to compare vehicular crimes with this is even more ridiculous... especially when the govt tries to get tough on vehicular crimes you get unending threads bitching at the police and government being too strict (a la the new Drinking & Driving laws + the car reposession/speeding laws) you guys just want to bitch for bitching sake


anyway back to this case a JURY found him guilty I wonder what kind of influence they had (if any) from the case of his mother

this case will naturally be appealed and he'll more than likely get a lesser charge if at that; the judge himself (as it says in the story) found it to be a "spontaneous brawl"

scottsman 12-03-2010 09:52 PM

Went to school with Josh, crazy. From what I remember they didn't report what happened right way and actually left the guy to die when the police arrived. One has to think that if it was in self defense you would immediately tell the police what happened. If you think it was self defense then you believe his attorneys stories. If you believe otherwise then you side with the prosecution.

.Dream.Time 12-03-2010 10:30 PM

thats pretty fucked up... it wasn't his knife. it's obviously self defense
i can't believe he got 10 years for that shit..such bullshit

JesseBlue 12-03-2010 11:06 PM

tells you that we have it all wrong... be the bad guy and win!

Qmx323 12-03-2010 11:44 PM

no such thing as self-defence in canada

the justice system in canada would benefit borrowing some policies from the dudes down south

FerrariEnzo 12-03-2010 11:52 PM

so let me get this right,

lets say i hate this guy, i walk up to him with a bat, get in a fight, he takes bat and kicks the crap out of me and he goes to jail and nothing happens to me!!!

t8v6 12-04-2010 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnomes (Post 7213572)
And dont forget about Robert Latimer - the father who euthanize his severely disabled daughter who was suffering every day of her life.

wow, that's a difficult case :/ on one hand the father did it out of his love for the daughter but on the other hand he denied her the right to choose to live in a way...guess it could go both ways. I think there should be a law along the lines of euthanisia can only be legal if the person being "killed" is of a certain age or above and gives consent. At least the victim will be able to make an educated decision of whether their lives are worth experiencing all the pain that they are going through. Just a thought lol.
Btw, for those who specialize in law, what's the reasoning behind legalizing pulling the plug for someone who's been in a coma for a very long time? Anybody know? Kinda curious :p

.Dream.Time 12-04-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t8v6 (Post 7214056)
wow, that's a difficult case :/ on one hand the father did it out of his love for the daughter but on the other hand he denied her the right to choose to live in a way...guess it could go both ways. I think there should be a law along the lines of euthanisia can only be legal if the person being "killed" is of a certain age or above and gives consent. At least the victim will be able to make an educated decision of whether their lives are worth experiencing all the pain that they are going through. Just a thought lol.
Btw, for those who specialize in law, what's the reasoning behind legalizing pulling the plug for someone who's been in a coma for a very long time? Anybody know? Kinda curious :p

how does a mentally challenged person give you their consent? if you manage to tell me I won't call you retarded

TheKingdom2000 12-04-2010 07:24 AM

wow.
10 years? for protecting himself and his buddy?
obviously there is more to the story, but at first glance it just seems like he was protecting himself and his buddy.
Unless he already had the guy disabled and then stabbed him out of revenge?

how many years is manslaughter?

StylinRed 12-04-2010 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx703 (Post 7214194)
how many years is manslaughter?

max for manslaughter is also Life
Minimum depends if a firearm was used or not (if it was 4 years min)
ultimately would depend on judge (min)

SuperSlowSS 12-04-2010 08:04 AM

such bullshit some of you can't even read... :p
it is LIFE SENTENCE with no parole for 10 years.

StylinRed 12-04-2010 08:15 AM

^^yea what most people dont realize is most murderers dont get out on their chance for Parole or even apply for it

cant remember the stats but its quite low

but regardless they're pissed he got sentenced in the first place and they like to pretend its better in the states

im betting they totally missed the point of the Jury as well

Euro7r 12-04-2010 08:43 AM

Everything is like fucked up in this world now.

RiceIntegraRS 12-04-2010 08:49 AM

This is why people think our Justice system is fucked up. Our Laws are basically black and white. Apparently theres no grey area our justice system goes by in a case like this. U murder someone and u get charged like a murderer, U defend someone else and urself and end up killing him, u get charged like a murderer..............

StylinRed 12-04-2010 08:54 AM

^^^ no if it was proven it was self defense he wouldn't have gotten convicted of murder the problem with this case (if all the information was provided to us in that news article :rolleyes: is the jury)

he'll appeal and he'll likely get off or get manslaughter

the problem is we dont want people copping the "self defense" plea whenever they kill someone so its harder to get

However Look at the Father and Two brothers that killed a drug user/dealer (it sounds like it was NOT self defense, based on the news) they got off scott free on the self defense plea

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...y-verdict.html


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