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Originally Posted by MindBomber  Drug Money=Gang Violence
If pot were made legal in British Columbia it would drop significantly in value and devastate the gangsters' source of income, so why aren't incidents like this stimulating the debate for legalization? | Think globally. Only a small portion of BC bud is consumed in BC. A big portion of it is shipped to other parts of Canada and to the US. One of the reason's Canada will not legalize it is that it is deemed illegal with Canada's biggest trading partnet, the US. It has been reported that marijuana trades at 1 to 1 for cocaine in Calif.
So, do you really want to legalize marijuana?
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12-15-2010, 08:42 AM
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Hhahaha weed 1:1 with coke are you crazy?
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12-15-2010, 08:49 AM
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How can weed ever be a 1:1 trade with cocaine? Cocaine not only costs more to produce and transport but carries maybe 100x more risk just by being in possession of it.
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12-15-2010, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy Think globally. Only a small portion of BC bud is consumed in BC. A big portion of it is shipped to other parts of Canada and to the US. One of the reason's Canada will not legalize it is that it is deemed illegal with Canada's biggest trading partnet, the US. It has been reported that marijuana trades at 1 to 1 for cocaine in Calif.
So, do you really want to legalize marijuana? | Well, I agree that only a small portion of marijuana produced in British Columbia is used within the province. I would agree though that a significant portion is shipped outside of the province. As for the US, many things illegal there are legal in Canada, and California almost legalized marijuana, so I don't think thats as significant an obstacle as is portrayed.
What would make a significant difference is the elimination of low level drug dealers involved with the local supply chain, and the new tax revenue that could be directed towards curving illegal marijuana production.
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12-15-2010, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vinny G How can weed ever be a 1:1 trade with cocaine? Cocaine not only costs more to produce and transport but carries maybe 100x more risk just by being in possession of it. | Why is cocaine more risk to carry than weed?
In the US, both drugs are illigal and carry the same sentence.
Also, you can't compare weed to weed. BC weed is known for it's high THC whereas Mexican weed has low THC so a joint of that stuff doesn't get you as high as BC weed.
Perhaps not now, can't find any recent articles on it, but back a few years yes BC bud was trading at a pound for a pound of coke.
As for CAlifornia legalizing weed, it is legal for medicinal use. You need to be carded to be able to buy. Growers need to be approved and are limited to how much they can grow. There is only a small number of people who is actually legal to use marijuana.
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12-15-2010, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MindBomber What would make a significant difference is the elimination of low level drug dealers involved with the local supply chain, and the new tax revenue that could be directed towards curving illegal marijuana production. | This is basic economics. The minute the government taxes the "legal" bud, illigal undergrown bud demand grows as it will be cheaper than the "legal" product. Look at illegal/native cigarettes. They are not taxed thus are cheaper than a pack of smokes you buy at the store. I don't smoke, but I remember way back in high school, it was $3 for a pack of untaxed Dumarier's vs $6-7 for a pack at 7-11.
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12-15-2010, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy Why is cocaine more risk to carry than weed?
In the US, both drugs are illigal and carry the same sentence. | For starters, possession of a small amount of marijuana is a misdemeanor in California. I'm almost certain that someone carrying 50g of marijuana will get nowhere near the same sentence as someone carrying 50g of cocaine.
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They should just call up this dude to deal with the gang problem 
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12-15-2010, 01:03 PM
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#60 | | I don't get it
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Originally Posted by Soundy Judges cannot CHANGE laws, nor can they throw them out.
They can set PRECEDENT, which subsequent cases usually call upon. Only legislators can actually CHANGE the laws. | Yes they can. For example, if a law is ruled unconstitutional... it is immediately thrown out.
Legislators do set the laws, but it is the courts' job to interpret it. Interpretion is very broad and grants the judges great powers in determining a bill's wholesomeness.
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12-15-2010, 01:11 PM
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#61 | | I don't get it
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy This is basic economics. The minute the government taxes the "legal" bud, illigal undergrown bud demand grows as it will be cheaper than the "legal" product. Look at illegal/native cigarettes. They are not taxed thus are cheaper than a pack of smokes you buy at the store. I don't smoke, but I remember way back in high school, it was $3 for a pack of untaxed Dumarier's vs $6-7 for a pack at 7-11. | Nono.
Basic economics. If you restrict the production and sale of cannabis, demand remains the same while supply goes DOWN. Thus, the price is RAISED because the same amount of people want it, but there's much less to go around.
If the production and sale of cannabis is allowed, supply goes up, QUANTITY demanded goes up but not demand (how much people want at a certain price). People do not "suddenly start" smoking marijuana because it's legal now. A lot of people smoke it regardless of its "illegal" status. Higher supply but same demand means that price is lowered.
TLDR version: Legalizing marijuana means the supply goes up, demand (not quantity demanded) stays the same, which means LOWER OVERALL PRICE.
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^ you forgot to add the part where the government would tax the hell out of legalized marijuana
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy Perhaps not now, can't find any recent articles on it, but back a few years yes BC bud was trading at a pound for a pound of coke. | A pound of bud, last time I asked people about it was around $1300.
A quick run through Google tells me a Kilo (little over 2lbs) goes for 12k+
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12-15-2010, 02:02 PM
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I like your post darkfroggy, it was very well written.
I would disagree with one point though, I believe the demand would increase for marijuana if there was a readily available legal source, although not to an extent that industry couldn't easily meet the supply and prices would increase. I rarely buy marijuana, because of the potential legal issues and I just don't like calling drug dealers; if I could buy it at the corner store I would likely smoke far more often. Also consider the marijuana tourism factor, legalized marijuana has made Amsterdam infamous around the world. Quote:
Originally Posted by darkfroggy Nono.
Basic economics. If you restrict the production and sale of cannabis, demand remains the same while supply goes DOWN. Thus, the price is RAISED because the same amount of people want it, but there's much less to go around.
If the production and sale of cannabis is allowed, supply goes up, QUANTITY demanded goes up but not demand (how much people want at a certain price). People do not "suddenly start" smoking marijuana because it's legal now. A lot of people smoke it regardless of its "illegal" status. Higher supply but same demand means that price is lowered.
TLDR version: Legalizing marijuana means the supply goes up, demand (not quantity demanded) stays the same, which means LOWER OVERALL PRICE. | | |
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Originally Posted by GabAlmighty A pound of bud, last time I asked people about it was around $1300.
A quick run through Google tells me a Kilo (little over 2lbs) goes for 12k+ | Pound of good weed goes for 20-2100
Kilo goes for 39-40k
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Originally Posted by sliq Pound of good weed goes for 20-2100
Kilo goes for 39-40k | Thanks  Been a while since I asked around about that sort of stuff.
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Originally Posted by darkfroggy Yes they can. For example, if a law is ruled unconstitutional... it is immediately thrown out.
Legislators do set the laws, but it is the courts' job to interpret it. Interpretion is very broad and grants the judges great powers in determining a bill's wholesomeness. | when they rule it unconstitutional, they're saying it conflicts with a higher order law. They're not kings.. they're not writing or changing any laws.
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Originally Posted by goo3 when they rule it unconstitutional, they're saying it conflicts with a higher order law. They're not kings.. they're not writing or changing any laws. | Correct - the judge cannot do away with the law. They can dismiss a VERDICT based on that law, IF they determine that the JUDGEMENT was unconstitutional.
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I guess you failed your economics class.
Your forgetting one critical factor. Do you think the natives are sitting around on the rez rolling cigs to sell to you for cheaper?
If the price of weed goes down it's going to hurt the illegal growers and they would have to expand a fuck ton just to make the same kinda money they are making now... and just incase you can't figure it out, let me spell it out for you... would make it alot less viable to the average home grown operation. Quote:
Originally Posted by SumAznGuy This is basic economics. The minute the government taxes the "legal" bud, illigal undergrown bud demand grows as it will be cheaper than the "legal" product. Look at illegal/native cigarettes. They are not taxed thus are cheaper than a pack of smokes you buy at the store. I don't smoke, but I remember way back in high school, it was $3 for a pack of untaxed Dumarier's vs $6-7 for a pack at 7-11. | | |
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12-16-2010, 09:33 AM
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The government taxes the shit out of legal cigarettes, hench why there is a market for illegal/untaxed smokes.
Same thing for weed. If it was legalized, don't you think the government will tax the fuck out of it which will drive the price up hence making it profitable again for them to sell the untaxed weed.
You want another example of this? Do you know why the food bank wants you to donate $$$ to them instead of can goods/food?
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Unless they tax it to the point of current street value(which would be stupid) any price decrease will hurt the lil grow ops. Thus putting all these little gangster wanabes outta business. Quote:
Originally Posted by SumAznGuy The government taxes the shit out of legal cigarettes, hench why there is a market for illegal/untaxed smokes.
Same thing for weed. If it was legalized, don't you think the government will tax the fuck out of it which will drive the price up hence making it profitable again for them to sell the untaxed weed.
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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy The government taxes the shit out of legal cigarettes, hench why there is a market for illegal/untaxed smokes.
Same thing for weed. If it was legalized, don't you think the government will tax the fuck out of it which will drive the price up hence making it profitable again for them to sell the untaxed weed.
You want another example of this? Do you know why the food bank wants you to donate $$$ to them instead of can goods/food? | During prohibition production of illegal alcohol was rampant, highly profitable and a catalyst for gang violence; just like marijuana is now. Now, alcohol is taxed and retailed by the government, but you don't see gangs producing alcohol to sell for profit. I'm not saying people still produce illegal alcohol to sell, but its very very uncommon. I believe marijuana would follow the same pattern as alcohol, because it has much more in common with that than cigarettes.
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