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The United States, despite being one of the wealthiest countries in the world has the highest rate of poverty. Most of you dont understand the multitude of reasons why people have to commit crime in the states. You guys always go to sleep with a full stomach and a roof over your head, but lots of people in America dont have a choice and its not because they are lazy or stupid, its what the system has created. Even if this guy was a chain mugging meth head, what happened in this video was murder and if you cant sympathize for this guys life then you have no moral value for life. Lastly technology and crime fighting power has greatly advanced since the western era of the United States, there are effective ways in stopping or tracking people that run from the police without killing them and asking questions later. Quote:
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If you really believed this you'd want Bank CEOs , Pharmaceutical CEOs, Soft Drink CEOs shot and killed more so than anyone else (considering the manipulating and theft of peoples $$; the manipulating and deaths of people due to known faulty meds; the Death squads of Coca~Cola etc) except the higher up the class and wealth scale the criminals are the less outrage we feel over them even when their crimes are greater and deadlier |
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Ahmadinejad is a holocaust denier, until they elect a new leader they will never have credibility. /back to police shooting. |
So you have drank the cool aid. This very police pursuit could happen in Europe if you are a history professor and found that aspects of the holocaust werent true. In-fact anyone who goes against the proclaim number of deaths by the Nazi's will go to jail, its no joke. Just because Iran chooses to hang murderers (as Canada once did) it doesnt mean it has an abysmal human rights record. Anything else you want to add to that... you are just too gullible. As for this cops behavior, I would give him 25 years with no parole for murder. He would probably be 70 when he gets out. |
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Countries around the world continue to hang people and I fully support their right to do so, even though I don't personally support capital punishment. Lebanon and Turkey both govern their countries with Islamic values, but they don't stone people to death. The holocaust happened, trying to deny it is a disgrace to the millions of people who died. |
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he doesnt deny it in fact all those people marked as "holocaust deniers" simply doubt the # and the capability of those so called "showers" science and historical facts make a case for them however at the mere mention of anything like that they immediately get painted as anti-semitic; holocaust deniers; and get thrown in jail those in power dont want to get this conversation started because they fear how it can turn out (anger, outrage, conflict, etc etc) its simply a bottle they want to keep corked. if you don't sympathize with their concerns and looked at the repercussions those face who wanted to "get down to the bottom of it" you would feel you were in some sort of Big Brother Sci-Fi flick (look at the WW2 Historian David Irving he was considered, even in the trial against him, as the greatest living WW2 historian in terms of his knowledge; he was branded as a Holocaust Denier and thrown in Prison for raising doubts at the "official record" which was also changed) As an "atheist"; a scientist; a historian; etc etc you would want historical fact to be as accurate as possible Ahmadinejad seeing the fear on this subject simply wanted to stir the proverbial pot and opened a dialogue for the case (if you were completely honest with yourself this act would actually make him look like the Sane man) many Rabbis and Jewish hisotrians, scientists, anthropologists etc attended it wasn't some sort of KKK rally. /end my furthering of the curve ball :D |
Ahmadinejad, routinely questions the very existence of the holocaust and on occasion acknowledges it, catering to the audience he is speaking to. Although he claims that he would like a fair and open discussion on the subject, which I would strongly support, Ahmadinejad pursues the subject in a biased manner meant less to academically investigate history than to offend Jews. My statement is easily supported by his routine tangents against Israel when discussing his desire study history. David Irving's pursuits, cannot be compared to those of the Iranian Presidents, because Irving is an academic who methodically supports his statements and has an entirely different motivation. My desire to have Ahmadinejad's sanity examined is not for his denial of the holocaust, but rather his tendency to outright deny any information that questions his ideals; his instance that Iran is devoid of homosexuals for example. Again like I said in my previous post, my issue is not with Iran as a nation, my option is to the state or Iran. If I need to explain the difference I will.. Quote:
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oh i agree Ahmadinejad is a total :troll: at times but internally he has to wrestle with the far right (which believe it or not he isn't) and its actually caused him a lot of problems; i think many forget or neglect to realize that there is a very large very powerful extreme right in Iran (moreso than the Ayatollah) that needs to be kept at bay and Ahmadinejad can only do so much without pissing them off and without pissing Khomeni off like the "student riots" we saw a few years ago they were spurred on actually by a union and other other groups who are a part of the far-far right that Ahmadinejad distanced himself from which caused them to strike and stir the pot of the students etc That's why during that "election fiasco" the USA didn't support the opposition and even came out to say both leaders are no different really (because the opposition actually was/is more extreme than Ahmadinejad) internationally he's a :troll: internally he's wrestling with a lot of crap there was a few threads before ur time where i went on tangents about this and posted up links and articles showing that he's actually trying to reform the country and yet keep the extremists at bay but his trolling garners him 0, ZERO, support and in fact has spurned opposition; it just doesn't help at all except to keep the evening news interesting to watch KEEP in mind im not saying hes a great and effective leader, im merely trying to say he's not as bad as he's portrayed internationally |
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Wow you guys are dumb. All he was missing was vtec... |
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You think he wants to up one on the jews? Jews live in Iran, jews internationally respect and love Ahmaddeenajad, and they would be offended at your ignorance of thinking Irans leader is a racist. You are so hook line and sinker in the propaganda games that its not funny MindBomber. Gays in iran also have more rights then in the western world. see here Code: http://www.spike.com/video/transsexuals-in/2719501Quote:
Right now we can take a clip of the London protests and say the country wants a new regime (which in reality they do). Irans population validly and overwhelmingly voted for Ahmadeenijad, anything else is a lie. - This thread is going way off topic, start another one somewhere and I will continue this debate. |
I think some people get confused for being humanitarian and being right. Being humanitarian isn't wrong, but one has to consider situations given before making any judgment. In this chase case, the driver is putting the life of officers in danger+the possibility of further damage if the police let him keep going and continue to chase until they stop in a "humanitarian" way. I see nothing wrong with the police action. They were within their right to shoot. Imagine today if the story ends the same way (with police shooting the dude down) but adds an additional chapter, the office was in position to shoot, he chose not to use lethal forces, the guy runs away, kills a pedestrian on the way until he was finally stopped and shot. Who will the society blame? still blame the police of not stopping the dude while they got chance instead of using excessive power. Now, where is any sense of "humanitarian" there? I think humanitarian is for everyone getting the same treatment despite his condition (a man/party with more power should not exploit one with less), but we can't apply everything out there. |
I doubt anyone else is interested in another Iran debate, if you'd like to continue to discuss this Arash I would happily do so over pm's. I think you'll be surprised how well versed I am in middle eastern politics if given the chance to discuss it further; I'm far from the masses in the united states educated by fox news. If you would prefer not to and we end this discussion here, I assure you posts on forums do little to convey my beliefs and these posts are just a small fragment of my opinions on the subject. Your judgements that I've drank crazy cool aid and have been brainwashed by the endless propaganda campaigns are baseless. Btw.. like you sig lol /thread back on course... What was the basis for the officers being put on administrative leave, did the department rule them at fault? |
@Hehe Unfortunately you dont understand the situation, the officer placed him self on the hood of the car and we can talk about what if's all day. Had that man got away for stealing a 1000 dollar car, maybe he would have raised a child that would cure cancer. Quote:
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I believe its most department's policy's to place officers on leave after a shooting. Sounds more like standard procedure to me. |
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I bet the police man had active duty in the past and felt the chase to be like a stop and kill mission or my second thought is him always wanting to chase the next high... doing riskier and riskier police work, but this one being over the line. |
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YES. I've been saying this for a LONG ass time dude.. I HATE BANKS. I HATE THEM. It's why I'm eager to see what wikileaks will release about Bank of America, etc. These "people" should be rounded up and burned alive. I'm not kidding. |
holy shit thats bad ass. OP delivers |
What I dont understand is why at 100kms your still chasing the guy. You are racing through all kinds of neighbourhoods and any innocent person could have been killed. Yes I know the guy they were chasing started it but I remember in Vancouver when chases got to a certain speed they call it off due to safety concerns. All they wanted to do was catch this guy at any costs which is wrong. Yes the bad guy got what he deserved but he wasnt the only one who did something wrong. |
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Brutal, but it's called LAW ENFORCEMENT for a reason. |
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So...combination of no immediate danger to public + opportunities to end chase soon = continue pursuit? |
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