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story? thats fucked up and looked like it was right out of a movie
edit: Bad Ass Police Department in the comments lol
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Don't drive through Ohio... the cops there are psycho. " The car just tried to ram me " says the officer... no buddy, it was just trying to do a U-turn to get away, and you tried running into him. I also like how the cop runs out infront of the car as they are trying to get away so now the officer can say the car tried to run him over so now he can shoot them. So then he runs up on top of the hood and shoots the driver several times. When infact the driver wasnt trying to kill the officer, the officer put himself into harms way by himself. The guy was just trying to get away.
This is what I can tell from the video. I watched it a couple of times and at no point did I hear or see a gun from the suspects. I also did not hear the police says shots fired on the radios. Cop #3 just comes barreling out of his patrol car firing away and then the Cop #2 gets all excited and starts shooting also. Please tell me i'm wrong and I miss understood what really happened. I'm in a little bit a shock that I saw those cops go on a rampage and shoot the driver to death. What happened to setting up a road block, spike strips, and just pit the car til it wrecks or comes to a holt? Heck lets just pass all of those minor things and go straight for the guns.
that's a pretty good summary of how i feel
certainly they were complete fucking idiots for starting this chase but still
edit 3: BAPD stands for Blue Ash Police Department (Blue Ash, Ohio)
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Blue Ash Police Department
A driver was killed and two officers were injured in the Aug. 28 chase and shooting.
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Story by newsnet5.com
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BLUE ASH, Ohio --
A driver was killed and two officers were injured Tuesday after a police chase and shooting.
Daryl Black, a passenger, said all he wanted was a ride to the store. What he got instead was the wildest ride of his life.
Already, he's having nightmares, newsnet5.com partner WLWT-TV in Cincinnati reported.
"I thought I was a goner," Black said.
Black, 28, was riding with Charles Bennett, 37, when Blue Ash police tried to pull him over for erratic driving near Sycamore High School. Instead, Bennett made a run for it.
Wednesday night, Black watched the dashcam video from the Blue Ash cruisers that chased Bennett early Tuesday morning.
"What I am thinking here is, 'Get me out of this car ? you're going to kill us," he said.
Black said he didn't know that the car was stolen. He said that he tried to grab the wheel, but couldn't.
Black said Bennett never said a word during the entire chase.
Eventually, after being hit by police cruisers at least twice, Bennett's car stopped and an officer jumped on the hood of the car, firing through the windshield.
"I thought I was a dead man, you know? I thought he was going to shoot me when he was up on that thing. I kept on saying 'No, no, no, don't shoot!" Black said.
Bennett died at Bethesda North Hospital, but Black was unharmed and police quickly determined he was an innocent bystander.
"Going through a chase and then watching an officer shoot several shots in a window, when you think the next bullet is for you, it's unreal," Black said.
The three officers who fired shots during the pursuit are on administrative leave.
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When the Bullocks returned home from a family member's funeral on Friday, they found blood and three bullets on their front porch – along with a note to call the Blue Ash Police Department about their dog.
The Bullocks were shocked to learn that Jack had gotten out of the backyard and two officers who tried to catch him, ended up shooting and killing him right on the family's front porch.
Shooting haunts passenger
BY QUAN TRUONG AND CLIFF RADEL | QTRUONG@ENQUIRER.COM AND CRADEL@ENQUIRER.COM
BLUE ASH – As police here launched two investigations into a high-speed chase in which officers shot and killed a driver who fled from them in a stolen car, the car’s passenger was dealing with his own demons.
Daryl Black, 28, said Wednesday he has already had nightmares of bullets flying around him.
He looked at the cuts on his palms and could still see his neighbor, Charles Wayne Bennett, riddled with bullets with blood staining his shirt.
He remembered the determined look on Bennett’s face as he pressed his foot on the gas pedal and ran from police at speeds up to 130 miles per hour.
Black was in the passenger seat of the stolen car that led police on a pursuit through Blue Ash early Tuesday.
Several times during the chase, Black said, he tried to grab the wheel and crash the car but was unsuccessful.
The car hit two cruisers before finally slowing to a stop. When the final, fatal gunfire began with an officer on the hood firing into the car, “I hit the floor,” Black said.
Huddled underneath the dash in the passenger seat, he heard bullets shatter the windows.
Wednesday afternoon, Black sat at a picnic bench near his home in Sycamore Township and recalled the nightmare that “should’ve never happened.”
Black said the shooting was not justified.
“Obviously they had him stopped, they didn’t need to keep firing,” he said. “For a car, it’s not worth a life.”
Police said Bennett nearly ran into cruisers twice, once while making a U-turn, accelerated toward officers at one point, twice actually bumped cruisers, and rolled into the officer who ended up firing from the hood. Three officers fired shots, but not all at the same time.
As he spoke, Black rarely smiled. He appeared calm but looked tired. Occasionally, he held up his hands, gripping the imaginary wheel of the Monte Carlo as he described the chase.
“It keeps going through my head,” he said.
It all began just after midnight, when Bennett picked him up – with another man in the car – from the apartment building on Kenwood Road where Black said the two were neighbors.
“He was supposed to take me to Walgreens,” Black said. “I didn’t know the car was stolen.”
After dropping off the third man in the car, Bennett was driving on Cornell Road when he decided to do a U-turn, Black said. A Blue Ash officer pulled up and tried to stop the car.
“He said, ‘(Expletive) this,’ and takes off,” Black said. “He floors it and I grab the wheel but stopped because I decided it was too dangerous. I said, ‘You’re gonna kill us (expletive)! Stop this (expletive) car!’”
Bennett replied with the only phrase he uttered during the entire chase: “Shut up (expletive.)”
“It was eerie,” Black said. “He was very quiet throughout the whole thing. I was the one screaming at him.”
Black said he’s never been that close to gunfire. Hamilton County court records show he’s had previous drug and assault charges convictions, but Black said he never imagined himself in this situation.
“Somebody died right next to me – somebody I know,” he said. “We were casual friends. Never would I have thought he’d be involved in this – he was a soft-spoken man. No one understands why he did it.”
Bennett, 37, who Black said was his neighbor in Sycamore Township, had numerous charges on his record. His most recent conviction was for panhandling and possession of marijuana in July.
Blue Ash officers are conducting a criminal investigation to present to the Hamilton County Prosecutor and an internal investigation. Both are under the direction of Capt. James Schaffer.
“The investigations will be conducted one right after the other,” Schaffer said.
The criminal probe, he said, deals with “felonious assault on police officers in which deadly force was used.” The internal investigation will see “if any internal policies were violated.”
So far, it appears Blue Ash police followed proper procedure during the pursuit and shooting, Schaffer said.
“When someone is using a vehicle as a weapon, if officers are threatened with bodily harm or death, they are justified under our policy,” Schaffer noted, “in using that level of force.”
Following the incident, four officers were placed on paid administrative leave. Three were put on leave for discharging their sidearms. One went on leave for using his car as a weapon. Being placed on administrative leave is department policy in such cases.
The officers on leave are:
- Sgt. Edward Charron – policeman since 1988. Blue Ash Police Department member since 1995. Promoted to sergeant in 2002. While a member of the Cincinnati Police Department in 1991, he shot and killed a Golf Manor teen after the 18-year-old tried to grab the officer’s gun during a scuffle following a traffic stop.
- Sgt. Paul Hartinger – policeman since 1984. Blue Ash Police Department member since 1989. Promoted to sergeant in 1998. Sued for excessive use of force after a 1993 traffic stop.
-Officer Steve Keller – policeman since 1993. Blue Ash officer since 2002. Involved in July incident where a handcuffed suspect escaped from a cruiser’s back seat.
- Officer Scott Noel – policeman since 1990. Blue Ash officer since 2002. Used his cruiser as a weapon against the stolen car driven by Charles Wayne Bennett. Noel performed a “pit maneuver” where a trained officer bumps a suspect’s car to send it into a spin and off the road.
I don't know how you can call that excessive force. The passenger himself basically recounted how the driver, Bennett, had no regard for the law or safety of others.
Question.. did you ever consider the possibility that this stupid faggot could have ran over someone YOU love.. would you then possibly ever think the way you do now?
People here are so afraid of a police state that criminals have more fucking rights than anybody else..
give me a break, he ran , he got what he deserved. I'm glad this shits dead.
Also, he may not have wanted to kill anybody, but he could have.
Do you think people like the driver in this video wake up and say "today im going to run someone over with my car"? No, they do not. But do they fucking do it anyway? Yes, because they ran, they were going too fast and hit a child, a mother, a person, anybody. He didn't deserve any better. He got killed before he could kill someone.
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^^yeah i can understand what you're saying all drunk drivers should get shot too
fuck the rule of law lets stoop to their idiotic levels and take it one step further and bring it to the extreme
lets forget any training we may have and contingencies that are built in
Spoiler!
(spike track; even stopping the chase, instead of lying about ramming/attempted murder to justify shooting)
and lets all grab a gun and start blowing away people that step over the line.... hell what line? im just gonna fucking shoot anyone who looks at me funny or better yet... anyone that just looks funny
(im fine with a lil st justice, look at the russian drunk driver thread :P but there's always a line and it shouldnt be crossed)
Why did the officer jump on the hood, why did he not jump off given the car was only traveling 10km/p, why did he fire 3 shots at point blank range when one would have likely ended the pursuit. Its clear to me why the officers are currently on administrative leave.
Sounds like a pretty fucked up police department with trigger happy officers.
Glad the fucker is dead. If he was arrested, bailed out, sentenced or released, he's most likely going to end up doing the same stupid shit he's been doing and risking everyone's safety.
I fucking hate it when criminals make a run for it and then when boxed in or trapped, put their pussy hands up and "give up" What the hell is that about? Kill those fuckers. It's not tag or hide and seek for fuck's sakes.
I bet street racing has a higher kill ratio of innocent lives then car pursuits.
Street racers are always risking everyone's lives, going by your logic we should kill them too?
I bet street racing has a higher kill ratio of innocent lives then car pursuits.
Street racers are always risking everyone's lives, going by your logic we should kill them too?
The officer stood in front of the vehicle and the suspect still stepped on the gas. That would be considered as an attempt to kill the officer wouldn't it?
Street racing is different. Their intention is not to find aa innocent bystander and run them over. Their offense is different.
I believe what the cop did was not 100% correct and 100% following procedure but firing his gun was necessary at that moment. Killing him wasn't. Did he deserved it? I believe he did. You commit a crime, expect to suffer the consequences regardless of how it was casted on you.
Vancouver's or should I say, Canada's justice system is too light. But maybe because it's so light that we don't have criminals like they do in the states. Criminals in the states knows they are in for it so they commit more serious crime to try to get away.
Put yourself in the officers' position and imagine what they have to go through to get these guys off the streets, must be horrifying. Police officers in the states have to be more offensive than police officers here. The criminals they deal with are much more vigorous.
Wow, based on the responses in this thread it sounds like we live in Iran, not in Canada.
I'm a huge supporter of the police when they're criticized normally, but everything I see they did wrong here..
People make mistakes, stealing a car and running from police is a severe crime and it should be punished as such, but it doesn't void a persons right to live. The driver, however misguided, had the potential to change his path in life and improve and he was never given a chance to. Given that it looks like the pursuit was in the middle of no where, I don't see why they couldn't have let the car go. Trigger happy officers, first they shoot a puppy three times then they shoot a person three times. Does this remind anyone of the 15 year old who stole a car and was shot through the windshield in Vancouver?
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The officer stood in front of the vehicle and the suspect still stepped on the gas. That would be considered as an attempt to kill the officer wouldn't it?
Watch the video again, carefully, the officer climbs on the hood and then the car starts moving. At least thats how I saw it, the quality is pretty low.
Watch the video again, carefully, the officer climbs on the hood and then the car starts moving. At least thats how I saw it, the quality is pretty low.
After watching it, he did climb onto the car. But while on their, he yelled don't move several times. By moving, he put the officer's life in danger and gave him the right to fire.
Who knows what could happen afterwards. The driver could have sped off with him on top and what should the officer do then?
Either way, it was against the procedure that's why they are on admin leave. But criminals should know that when you put a police officers life in danger, expect to be shot.
That's interesting stuff. I wasn't going to reply, but what the hell, let me just put a couple things out there.
Sure, the police in this instance, may have gotten carried away. It didn't have to end that way.
Having said that, the driver wasn't a saint, known to police, not exactly a good specimen of man. A part of me hate people like that, especially when every legal system fails us with regard to these types of scum. Did he get what he deserves, well, I'm not losing sleep over his death, lets put it that way.
reading some of the posts on here, I tend to agree with many of you, even the ones opposing one another. I get where everyone is coming from. I think its safe to say, a lot of us are sick of the current level of humanity, or the lack of it, in our society today. Its sad really when we don't always respect our fellow man. It makes is hard to have hope with our society these days. There are too many times ALL of us through caution to the wind and do stupid shit of all degrees. There will always be the lowest scums of the earth, but the middle (gray area) is growing every day if you know what i mean.
an interesting point, drunk drivers, and street racers, someone said, if you use the "same" logic then death as a penalty to these types of people are ok....
Its sad to hear me say this, but sometimes I'm ok with this too. Perhaps not at the hands of a police officer shooting him in the head while mounted on the dudes hood of the car, but when street racers die because of their stupidity, they got what they deserved. Hopefully they removed themselves from society without and collateral damage. IE, hitting, and/or killing an innocent victim(s). friends of street racers have a onus to their 'friend' and society to try and stop shit from happening, but at the end of the day, a person makes his/her own decisions, you just be prepared for the consequences.
drunk drivers, well, simple, you and rapists, murderers, child molesters, can all do our society a favor and 'eliminate' yourselves.
Perhaps what i've said is a bit blunt, but I think most of you have some similar feelings.
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I dunno, I feel it's as simple as this.
When a police engages you. Don't run.
If you have nothing to hide, then what are you running from?
(If you have something to hide, then you deserve to get the beat down)
Don't ever make the officer feel threatened. Regardless of training, a police officer is
human, and if they feel you're gonna kill them, they'll kill you first.
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I say they should've let the guy go, followed him to his house, cooked him a nice meal, rubbed his feet, and then paid his mortgage because fuck the police right guys?
Come on. A reasonable person would've
1) Not run from the police
2) Stopped running when it was clear that running was an ineffective way to end the situation
3) Given up when they were rammed by the police
4) Given up when they had a gun pointed at them
Everyone makes their own choices. Even that 15 year old who tried to run down those cops (referenced earlier in this thread) knows right from wrong. And even a moderate amount of wrong from a whole lot wrong.
For those of you who are critical of the actions of the police, suggesting every method that should've been employed to resolve the situation: Put yourself in their shoes.
A person that committed to eluding the police is a danger ever second hes on the road. Deploying spike strips (in the dark, no less) is probably well within protocol but the officer had a decision to make; he had to end the pursuit before it began again.
The driver of the car was communicated with and clearly outnumbered. He knew of the consequences to continuing to flee, especially when a police officer STOOD IN FRONT OF HIM WITH A GUN.
Are the cops glad they shot him? No. Did they wake up in the morning, springing out of bed delighted at the opportunity to kill another person? No. Would they rather have seen this play out differently? I have no doubt they do.
Sure, we see the officers involved and their histories. One was sued for excessive force, one had a suspect escape on them, but those stats sell newspapers. I guarantee that no details of the difference they make in their cities a better place reach any part of those articles. Villains move papers best of all.
I'm sure the family of the guy killed is mortified. Its horrible that it came to this, but he made a choice to get behind the wheel and be a danger to everyone he encountered. He made the choice to not comply. He was entirely in control of his destiny and he is ultimately to blame.
Oh, and the retard that StylinRed quoted complaining that the driver was an innocent humanitarian on the way to the unicorn farm to make rainbows and cures for cancer instead of a danger to people around him: That guy is fucking retarded.
^^yeah i can understand what you're saying all drunk drivers should get shot too
A first time offender of drunk driving should get a sentence of 15 years in prison, no exceptions. Whether he hit someone or not. If he/she is caught, 15 years, no exceptions.
Harsh? FUCK NO.
Are you going to wait until they kill someone.. you? Your kid?
I don't care. Why ? Because they don't care.
If you think that sentence is harsh then you a)did not calculate the possibility of this cocksucker hitting you or anyone you care about and 2)are to blame for all the stupid shit people do here and then get slapped on the wrist for.
When is it going to stop? Do people have to keep dying for us to create laws that actually do something?
You could do that, or you could actually step it up and fix the problem.
I can say without a shadow of a doubt, you would KILL any person that kills your wife or your child or your mom or dad.. if you say no, then you're the Dali Lama. If you would kill them, you ought to rethink your argument .
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fuck the rule of law lets stoop to their idiotic levels and take it one step further and bring it to the extreme
This is not extreme. Perhaps somewhere along the line we forget, the guys doing the chasing.. they're human too.
The shit who ran, did not care about killing the cop, or anyone else on the street. He was doing over 100mph, tell me what kind of control you have over your car at 100mph? Very, very little.. none actually..
taking into account that it was night out, that he was drunk .. his reaction time is at all time lows, lucky no body was on the roads..
Do you know why I'm right in this argument? Because if he killed anybody, and you saw it on that vid, you'd completely agree with me. You'd want him dead too. That is not barbaric, that is called justice. Simple as that.
I don't suggest we kill everyone, but yeah, human shits need to die. I'm tired of faggotry and bullshit and all the shit that people do and then all that happens in return is a slap on the fucking wrist.
The issue is much bigger than this, I don't just have a problem with this guy, my problem lies with everyone.
I see war criminals get 10-15 years in prison.. is that justice..
the only justice that i know is the one that produces a result in which revenge is served and mirrors the punishment of the guilty.
Life isn't a fucking cartoon, we aren't the justice league. Kill these sacks of fucking shit.
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