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Old 12-19-2010, 10:46 AM   #26
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Officers taser then shoot chihuahua three times

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CINCINNATI, OH -- A Blue Ash family is outraged after returning home to find their dog had been shot and killed by a police officer.

The dog was a Chihuahua-mix named “Jack” that Scott and Sharon Bullock had given to their 12-year-old son for his birthday a few years ago.

When the Bullocks returned home from a family member's funeral on Friday, they found blood and three bullets on their front porch – along with a note to call the Blue Ash Police Department about their dog.

The Bullocks were shocked to learn that Jack had gotten out of the backyard and two officers who tried to catch him, ended up shooting and killing him right on the family's front porch.

"He was cornered on the porch and scared," said Sharon Bullock. "The officer bent down bare-handed to pick up Jack, and Jack bit him."

"My five-year-old cried himself to sleep the night before last, wanting his dog," said Sharon Bullock.

"He ‘barks’ for him" added Scott Bullock. "He'd ‘bark’ and Jack would always come to him, so he's outside going ‘Bark bark bark,’ hoping he's gonna come back. It's heartbreaking."

The Bullocks told their five-year-old and three-year-old sons that Jack ran away.

The Bullocks admit they were at fault for leaving their dog outside, and are sorry the officer was bitten, but they say their dog was not a vicious animal and had never bitten anyone before.

They're wondering why the officers didn't call the SPCA to catch the dog.

"They didn't make that phone call other than to come scoop the dog off the porch after they shot him," said Scott Bullock. "Two grown men that can't gather up a five-pound dog – and they're trained police officers – sounds ridiculous to me."

That officer later explained to the family that he was following procedure.

The Blue Ash Police Department has not returned 9News’ calls for comment on this incident.

The family says there were two officers involved. One was bitten. The other officer tased, then shot the dog three times.
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The United States, despite being one of the wealthiest countries in the world has the highest rate of poverty.


Most of you dont understand the multitude of reasons why people have to commit crime in the states. You guys always go to sleep with a full stomach and a roof over your head, but lots of people in America dont have a choice and its not because they are lazy or stupid, its what the system has created.

Even if this guy was a chain mugging meth head, what happened in this video was murder and if you cant sympathize for this guys life then you have no moral value for life.

Lastly technology and crime fighting power has greatly advanced since the western era of the United States, there are effective ways in stopping or tracking people that run from the police without killing them and asking questions later.

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Wow, based on the responses in this thread it sounds like we live in Iran, not in Canada.
Sorry MindBomber but it looks like you drank the Rupert Murdock cool aid, Iran is a society with high morals unless you know other wise.



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A first time offender of drunk driving should get a sentence of 15 years in prison, no exceptions. Whether he hit someone or not. If he/she is caught, 15 years, no exceptions.

Harsh? FUCK NO.
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that explains it all. fuck the rule of law lets stoop to their idiotic levels and take it one step further and bring it to the extreme




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except the higher up the class and wealth scale the criminals are the less outrage we feel over them even when their crimes are greater and deadlier
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Sorry MindBomber but it looks like you drank the Rupert Murdock cool aid, Iran is a society with high morals unless you know other wise.
The morals of Iran's government are a matter of perspective, to someone who shares it's governments religious values it may seem like a very moral state. Through my perspective, a Canadian atheist, the Iranian government has an abysmal human rights record and a President in need of a psychiatric evaluation.

Ahmadinejad is a holocaust denier, until they elect a new leader they will never have credibility.

/back to police shooting.
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So you have drank the cool aid.

This very police pursuit could happen in Europe if you are a history professor and found that aspects of the holocaust werent true. In-fact anyone who goes against the proclaim number of deaths by the Nazi's will go to jail, its no joke.

Just because Iran chooses to hang murderers (as Canada once did) it doesnt mean it has an abysmal human rights record. Anything else you want to add to that... you are just too gullible.

As for this cops behavior, I would give him 25 years with no parole for murder. He would probably be 70 when he gets out.

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Just because Iran chooses to hang murderers (as Canada once did) it doesnt mean it has an abysmal human rights record. Anything else you want to add to that... you are just too gullible.
As I clearly stated Arash, its a matter of fucking perspective, I didn't drink any cool aid I just have a different belief system.

Countries around the world continue to hang people and I fully support their right to do so, even though I don't personally support capital punishment. Lebanon and Turkey both govern their countries with Islamic values, but they don't stone people to death.
The holocaust happened, trying to deny it is a disgrace to the millions of people who died.
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Ahmadinejad is a holocaust denier, until they elect a new leader they will never have credibility.

/back to police shooting.
oh no this thread is headed for a total different course with this curve ball thrown...

he doesnt deny it in fact all those people marked as "holocaust deniers" simply doubt the # and the capability of those so called "showers" science and historical facts make a case for them

however at the mere mention of anything like that they immediately get painted as anti-semitic; holocaust deniers; and get thrown in jail

those in power dont want to get this conversation started because they fear how it can turn out (anger, outrage, conflict, etc etc) its simply a bottle they want to keep corked. if you don't sympathize with their concerns and looked at the repercussions those face who wanted to "get down to the bottom of it" you would feel you were in some sort of Big Brother Sci-Fi flick (look at the WW2 Historian David Irving he was considered, even in the trial against him, as the greatest living WW2 historian in terms of his knowledge; he was branded as a Holocaust Denier and thrown in Prison for raising doubts at the "official record" which was also changed)

As an "atheist"; a scientist; a historian; etc etc you would want historical fact to be as accurate as possible Ahmadinejad seeing the fear on this subject simply wanted to stir the proverbial pot and opened a dialogue for the case (if you were completely honest with yourself this act would actually make him look like the Sane man) many Rabbis and Jewish hisotrians, scientists, anthropologists etc attended it wasn't some sort of KKK rally.

/end my furthering of the curve ball
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Ahmadinejad, routinely questions the very existence of the holocaust and on occasion acknowledges it, catering to the audience he is speaking to. Although he claims that he would like a fair and open discussion on the subject, which I would strongly support, Ahmadinejad pursues the subject in a biased manner meant less to academically investigate history than to offend Jews. My statement is easily supported by his routine tangents against Israel when discussing his desire study history. David Irving's pursuits, cannot be compared to those of the Iranian Presidents, because Irving is an academic who methodically supports his statements and has an entirely different motivation.

My desire to have Ahmadinejad's sanity examined is not for his denial of the holocaust, but rather his tendency to outright deny any information that questions his ideals; his instance that Iran is devoid of homosexuals for example.

Again like I said in my previous post, my issue is not with Iran as a nation, my option is to the state or Iran. If I need to explain the difference I will..

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As an "atheist"; a scientist; a historian; etc etc you would want historical fact to be as accurate as possible Ahmadinejad seeing the fear on this subject simply wanted to stir the proverbial pot and opened a dialogue for the case (if you were completely honest with yourself this act would actually make him look like the Sane man) many Rabbis and Jewish hisotrians, scientists, anthropologists etc attended it wasn't some sort of KKK rally.

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oh i agree Ahmadinejad is a total at times but internally he has to wrestle with the far right (which believe it or not he isn't) and its actually caused him a lot of problems; i think many forget or neglect to realize that there is a very large very powerful extreme right in Iran (moreso than the Ayatollah) that needs to be kept at bay and Ahmadinejad can only do so much without pissing them off and without pissing Khomeni off

like the "student riots" we saw a few years ago they were spurred on actually by a union and other other groups who are a part of the far-far right that Ahmadinejad distanced himself from which caused them to strike and stir the pot of the students etc

That's why during that "election fiasco" the USA didn't support the opposition and even came out to say both leaders are no different really (because the opposition actually was/is more extreme than Ahmadinejad)

internationally he's a internally he's wrestling with a lot of crap

there was a few threads before ur time where i went on tangents about this and posted up links and articles showing that he's actually trying to reform the country and yet keep the extremists at bay but his trolling garners him 0, ZERO, support and in fact has spurned opposition; it just doesn't help at all except to keep the evening news interesting to watch

KEEP in mind im not saying hes a great and effective leader, im merely trying to say he's not as bad as he's portrayed internationally

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A first time offender of drunk driving should get a sentence of 15 years in prison, no exceptions. Whether he hit someone or not. If he/she is caught, 15 years, no exceptions.

Harsh? FUCK NO.

Are you going to wait until they kill someone.. you? Your kid?

I don't care. Why ? Because they don't care.

If you think that sentence is harsh then you a)did not calculate the possibility of this cocksucker hitting you or anyone you care about and 2)are to blame for all the stupid shit people do here and then get slapped on the wrist for.

When is it going to stop? Do people have to keep dying for us to create laws that actually do something?

You could do that, or you could actually step it up and fix the problem.

I can say without a shadow of a doubt, you would KILL any person that kills your wife or your child or your mom or dad.. if you say no, then you're the Dali Lama. If you would kill them, you ought to rethink your argument .




This is not extreme. Perhaps somewhere along the line we forget, the guys doing the chasing.. they're human too.

The shit who ran, did not care about killing the cop, or anyone else on the street. He was doing over 100mph, tell me what kind of control you have over your car at 100mph? Very, very little.. none actually..
taking into account that it was night out, that he was drunk .. his reaction time is at all time lows, lucky no body was on the roads..

Do you know why I'm right in this argument? Because if he killed anybody, and you saw it on that vid, you'd completely agree with me. You'd want him dead too. That is not barbaric, that is called justice. Simple as that.
I don't suggest we kill everyone, but yeah, human shits need to die. I'm tired of faggotry and bullshit and all the shit that people do and then all that happens in return is a slap on the fucking wrist.

The issue is much bigger than this, I don't just have a problem with this guy, my problem lies with everyone.

I see war criminals get 10-15 years in prison.. is that justice..

the only justice that i know is the one that produces a result in which revenge is served and mirrors the punishment of the guilty.

Life isn't a fucking cartoon, we aren't the justice league. Kill these sacks of fucking shit.
Going by your logic, if we kill every person that endangers lives on the road, what the fuck is going to happen to the people of Richmond? You're fucking racist
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As I clearly stated Arash, its a matter of fucking perspective, I didn't drink any cool aid I just have a different belief system.
True a matter of perspective if you have never been to Iran, watch mainstream news and dont know the players behind the world wars.

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Lebanon and Turkey both govern their countries with Islamic values, but they don't stone people to death.
The holocaust happened, trying to deny it is a disgrace to the millions of people who died.
Iran has 70 million people with many different ethnicity's and rural small cities. If stoning was used (Im sure in rare cases if any) in the past there was a reason for it, currently the grand Ayatollah has banned that as a sentence forever.
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Ahmadinejad, routinely questions the very existence of the holocaust and on occasion acknowledges it, catering to the audience he is speaking to. Although he claims that he would like a fair and open discussion on the subject, which I would strongly support, Ahmadinejad pursues the subject in a biased manner meant less to academically investigate history than to offend Jews. My statement is easily supported by his routine tangents against Israel when discussing his desire study history. David Irving's pursuits, cannot be compared to those of the Iranian Presidents, because Irving is an academic who methodically supports his statements and has an entirely different motivation.

My desire to have Ahmadinejad's sanity examined is not for his denial of the holocaust, but rather his tendency to outright deny any information that questions his ideals; his instance that Iran is devoid of homosexuals for example.

Again like I said in my previous post, my issue is not with Iran as a nation, my option is to the state or Iran. If I need to explain the difference I will..
Your comments show that you do not know what he is about, you want to make things fit your "hes evil" notion. Ahmadeenajad's main question of the Holocaust is that if the Nazis committed the Holocaust, why should Palestinians have to suffer.
You think he wants to up one on the jews? Jews live in Iran, jews internationally respect and love Ahmaddeenajad, and they would be offended at your ignorance of thinking Irans leader is a racist.
You are so hook line and sinker in the propaganda games that its not funny MindBomber.
Gays in iran also have more rights then in the western world.

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After the big Obama "elections", Iran also hyped the elections but after the loser started talking out of his ass, his supporters grouped on the streets. Not too long ago Obama signed through half a billion dollars to create internal conflict in Iran, so these kind of operations have been going on before most of you were born meaning any of the extreme bus burning, attacking police bases and the famous Neda murder was setup by external powers and what did the western news do? They sensationalized it to serve their own interest, a political one for their owners.

Right now we can take a clip of the London protests and say the country wants a new regime (which in reality they do). Irans population validly and overwhelmingly voted for Ahmadeenijad, anything else is a lie.

- This thread is going way off topic, start another one somewhere and I will continue this debate.

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I think some people get confused for being humanitarian and being right.

Being humanitarian isn't wrong, but one has to consider situations given before making any judgment.

In this chase case, the driver is putting the life of officers in danger+the possibility of further damage if the police let him keep going and continue to chase until they stop in a "humanitarian" way. I see nothing wrong with the police action. They were within their right to shoot.

Imagine today if the story ends the same way (with police shooting the dude down) but adds an additional chapter, the office was in position to shoot, he chose not to use lethal forces, the guy runs away, kills a pedestrian on the way until he was finally stopped and shot.

Who will the society blame? still blame the police of not stopping the dude while they got chance instead of using excessive power. Now, where is any sense of "humanitarian" there?

I think humanitarian is for everyone getting the same treatment despite his condition (a man/party with more power should not exploit one with less), but we can't apply everything out there.
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I doubt anyone else is interested in another Iran debate, if you'd like to continue to discuss this Arash I would happily do so over pm's. I think you'll be surprised how well versed I am in middle eastern politics if given the chance to discuss it further; I'm far from the masses in the united states educated by fox news.
If you would prefer not to and we end this discussion here, I assure you posts on forums do little to convey my beliefs and these posts are just a small fragment of my opinions on the subject. Your judgements that I've drank crazy cool aid and have been brainwashed by the endless propaganda campaigns are baseless.

Btw.. like you sig lol

/thread back on course...
What was the basis for the officers being put on administrative leave, did the department rule them at fault?
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Unfortunately you dont understand the situation, the officer placed him self on the hood of the car and we can talk about what if's all day.
Had that man got away for stealing a 1000 dollar car, maybe he would have raised a child that would cure cancer.

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What was the basis for the officers being put on administrative leave, did the department rule them at fault?

I believe its most department's policy's to place officers on leave after a shooting. Sounds more like standard procedure to me.
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I bet the police man had active duty in the past and felt the chase to be like a stop and kill mission

or my second thought is him always wanting to chase the next high... doing riskier and riskier police work, but this one being over the line.

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If you really believed this you'd want Bank CEOs , Pharmaceutical CEOs, Soft Drink CEOs shot and killed more so than anyone else (considering the manipulating and theft of peoples $$; the manipulating and deaths of people due to known faulty meds; the Death squads of Coca~Cola etc)
ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY

YES. I've been saying this for a LONG ass time dude..

I HATE BANKS. I HATE THEM. It's why I'm eager to see what wikileaks will release about Bank of America, etc.

These "people" should be rounded up and burned alive. I'm not kidding.
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What I dont understand is why at 100kms your still chasing the guy.
You are racing through all kinds of neighbourhoods and any innocent person could have been killed. Yes I know the guy they were chasing started it but I remember in Vancouver when chases got to a certain speed they call it off due to safety concerns.
All they wanted to do was catch this guy at any costs which is wrong. Yes the bad guy got what he deserved but he wasnt the only one who did something wrong.
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The United States, despite being one of the wealthiest countries in the world has the highest rate of poverty.


Most of you dont understand the multitude of reasons why people have to commit crime in the states. You guys always go to sleep with a full stomach and a roof over your head, but lots of people in America dont have a choice and its not because they are lazy or stupid, its what the system has created.

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it's because there is too many people. killing the criminals, homeless, and useless people will make the world better for the normal people.
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What I dont understand is why at 100kms your still chasing the guy.
You are racing through all kinds of neighbourhoods and any innocent person could have been killed. Yes I know the guy they were chasing started it but I remember in Vancouver when chases got to a certain speed they call it off due to safety concerns.
All they wanted to do was catch this guy at any costs which is wrong. Yes the bad guy got what he deserved but he wasnt the only one who did something wrong.
AFAIK, they weren't going through crowded school zones, side streets, or sidewalks. The lead cop called it early, saying he would stop the guy given the chance, probably a sign that he wanted it to end early rather than let it go on any longer than necessary like OJ Simpson/Rampage Jackson.

So...combination of no immediate danger to public + opportunities to end chase soon = continue pursuit?
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