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from my family having owned both cars, the 3 series rear and trunk space feel tiny compared to an accord....
If you are comparing sedan to sedan I definitely agree, as a 4 seater coupe however you will see me climbing into the back of a 328 over the accord any day. The sedan has bulging rear wheel wells or something that just pushes into the interior and makes it very uncomfortable
I believe the accord has the middle seat belt making it a 5 seater though which is a plus.
ps. i have a 07 328 coupe and my thermostat and waterpump died in october. it costs me around $1300(including labour) to replace them. apparently this is a rare occurrence but it happened and i was quite surprised at the costs.
my dad has X3 too and it is just soooo dope too drive. The straight 6 engines and the drivetrains are out of this world, theres NO way you can compare a Accord to a 328i. Get the BMW and bring it into a bmw dealership too see if you can get it certified, if they say everything is good then take good care of it and it will last you a lifetime. BMWs are reliable if you treat them well and im talking from experience.
My cousin (male) bought a brand new 330i with M sport package and he didnt take care of the car at all, he kept cheaping out on maitenace and he brought the car to sketchy and cheap places for everything and his driving style was very aggresive. That being said after two years when the car hit 40000k it started falling apart.
My cousin (female) bought a X3 with 40000k and she took good care of it and took the time to bring it too the dealership for everything. And the car is still running well it has 160k now ( she drives to cali alot) she couldnt be happier.
Get the BMW and be happy for the next 7 years, because i know for a fact that whenever you take a corner you will have a smile on your face everytime. Jump at the chance to own the Ultimate Driving Machine.
3 series without sport package to me is just average... nothing special.
But add the sport package, now you have the best handling sedan in the world. Nobody can match it. Just awesome car to drive...as long as the road isn't bumpy.
I am also not a fan of the 328 auto transmission... nothing like the ZF found on 335i.(It drives like manual)
stop complaining about reliability, how many of you actually own a 3 series? and do know how much you need to pay for repairing? Pretty much all BMW owners (including the c-lais and uncles) I know in my life never complain about how much they pay. Either it is pretty much maintenance free or they think every penny that was spent is worthy.
After adding up all the repair bills we paid for our 95 E36 with 160K, it's around 6g (excl all the mod parts), which was reasonable for a 11 yrs car, $550 a year is not bad for a 90s German car.
If you care about interior and trunk space, you need to get a wagon or dodge minivan.
If you care about getting girls, get a mini cooper
The leatherette on the entry level Bimmers are terrible. I also notice that the standard seats are very flat with very little support. IMHO, the sport seats are a must. Why don't you compromise on the two and find a 2007-2009 TSX? Honda reliability, with just the right amount of 'luxury'.. ?
BMWs are reliable if you treat them well and im talking from experience.
My cousin (male) bought a brand new 330i with M sport package and he didnt take care of the car at all, he kept cheaping out on maitenace and he brought the car to sketchy and cheap places for everything and his driving style was very aggresive. That being said after two years when the car hit 40000k it started falling apart.
You're contradicting yourself here. A car should not fall apart at 40k even if you do nothing more than a couple of oil changes during that time.
The leatherette on the entry level Bimmers are terrible. I also notice that the standard seats are very flat with very little support. IMHO, the sport seats are a must. Why don't you compromise on the two and find a 2007-2009 TSX? Honda reliability, with just the right amount of 'luxury'.. ?
They don't feel like the nappa leather but I can GUARANTEE you this, the leatherette after 5 years will look brand new and requires no maintenance, Leather in 5 years shows significant wear and tear
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BMW = Cooling system problems.. be preparied to replace the water pump at least...
Honda all the way
IMHO, German cars are not worth buying.. cost too much to maintain
Your accord is going to have full warranty.
the BMW will only have 2 years remaining
Not worth buying because of higher maintenance costs?
Seriously if all you're looking for in a car is low maintenance costs get off this forum
You're contradicting yourself here. A car should not fall apart at 40k even if you do nothing more than a couple of oil changes during that time.
Did you not read the part where i said he CHEAPED out on scheduled maintenance therfore SKIPPING alot of important services and did you not read the part where he drove very aggresive ( redlined like it was nothing).
And by falling apart i mean 2nd gear kinda grinded, it had water pump problems and the oil would turn black really fast and it was starting to have electrical problems aswell.
it was one of these, it was lemans blue though.
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A car looses 15-20% of its value per year, so buying a used BMW would be better value than by a brand new Accord.
Hondas are far from the most reliable cars in the world. I own a Civic and am very active on Honda forums, the past two Honda generations for most models haven't even remotely matched the quality of those built in the 90's.
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I was pretty much in the exact same situation as you. I came down to two choices, brand new fully loaded 09 Accord or e90 07 328i. Before the test drive, I was really leaning toward getting the Accord. I had driven a BMW before, but it did not have the sport package.
I took the BMW 328i with sport package for a test drive and I had made my decision within 30 seconds. The handling on the car is ridiculous.
I also prefer the leatherette over the real leather. Real leather goes through wear and tear really easily. People come into my car and are shocked when I tell them it's 5 years old.
Maintenance costs are not as much as people are making it out to be.
The one thing I will warn you about though is, this car SUCKS in the snow.
I REPEAT, THIS BMW WITHOUT X-DRIVE IS HORRIBLE IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!
Winter tires + sand or bricks in trunk should help when its snowing.
True, although not sure how much it will help.
To be honest with you, I haven't tried that, but only so I have an excuse to borrow my bro's a4 with quattro in the snow....nothing more fun than that.
To be honest with you, I haven't tried that, but only so I have an excuse to borrow my bro's a4 with quattro in the snow....nothing more fun than that.
I had a e92 328i and with snow tires and some weight in the trunk it was fine. I have a e92 335i now, and same thing, with snow tires, no problems.
People that drive Bimmers, gas and maintenance cost are the least of your concern since you are able to afford a Bimmer already. If you own a Bimmer and bitching about ridiculous costs here and there, then drive something else.
Real BMW owners read Bimmer forums. So they know problems from other owners before the parts actually break down, and know where to shop for cheap quality parts.
For example, changing the license plate bulb is a bitch and will cause you $50 for the bulb and $100 for labour at dealership. Read the fucking tutorial online takes you 15 minutes and 30 minutes with a screw driver to swap the bulb out.
Another example, interior headliners and pillar panels rattling? instead of whinning like a bitch online saying BMW quality sucks crap, simply pry the panel out then replace the broken clip you can buy at homedepot for 25cents.
again, it's those people who have never own a bmw complains about the reliability most of the time.
A buddy of mine who works at Brian Jessel says E90 BMWs are very unreliable due to the fact that they carry a lot of electronics which drains the battery fast. He gets a lot of BMWs towed in because of dead batteries. I'd go for the Accord.
A buddy of mine who works at Brian Jessel says E90 BMWs are very unreliable due to the fact that they carry a lot of electronics which drains the battery fast. He gets a lot of BMWs towed in because of dead batteries. I'd go for the Accord.
cause he works at a bmw stealership shop. I don't think perfectly fine bmw would go there for tea party.
make some friends as a honda stealership shop.
I think the quality of bmw and honda are on par. You gotta calculated the percentage of electronic breakdown from the total amount of electronics in the car.
I can't really backup what i'm saying here since I've never owned a bmw, but I do own an acura/honda. So i know half the statistics.
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