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sebberry 12-22-2010 09:00 PM

Under what circumstances..
 
.. is a police officer allowed to drive a police car at 40km/hr over the speed limit without any lights/sirens?

cityvanluder 12-22-2010 10:23 PM

because they are cops and don't care...

dlo 12-22-2010 10:36 PM

^ please only contribute in the police forum if you have a serious answer..

jlenko 12-23-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 7237922)
.. is a police officer allowed to drive a police car at 40km/hr over the speed limit without any lights/sirens?

You saw the same guy I did tonight? Cop car blew the first red after the Patullo southbound on King George, going at least 100 km/h.. nice air over the bumps too. No lights, no sirens.

Almost smoked me too (I had the green).

sebberry 12-23-2010 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 7238144)
You saw the same guy I did tonight? Cop car blew the first red after the Patullo southbound on King George, going at least 100 km/h.. nice air over the bumps too. No lights, no sirens.

Almost smoked me too (I had the green).

No. Fortunately the one I saw was on the freeway, but he was moving really fast straight towards where the merge lane merged. (And it's not always easy to see the cars merging onto the freeway, especially when they merge on the white painted islands instead of waiting for the broken line)

sebberry 12-23-2010 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cityvanluder (Post 7238025)
because they are cops and don't care...

Geez.. and Soundy gives me hell for having an opinion...

skidmark 12-23-2010 07:41 AM

On the freeway? For the most part, I can't think of a good reason.

sebberry 12-23-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by skidmark (Post 7238281)
On the freeway? For the most part, I can't think of a good reason.

If he was trying to catch up to another car for a traffic stop, could not using the lights until initiating the stop be a way to avoid a chase?

zulutango 12-23-2010 09:50 AM

The driver would have to be able to articulate the reasons below if called on it.

Exemption for emergency vehicles
122 (1) Despite anything in this Part, but subject to subsections (2) and (4), a driver of an emergency vehicle may do the following:

(a) exceed the speed limit;

(b) proceed past a red traffic control signal or stop sign without stopping;

(c) disregard rules and traffic control devices governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions;

(d) stop or stand.

(2) The driver of an emergency vehicle must not exercise the privileges granted by subsection (1) except in accordance with the regulations.

(3) [Repealed 1997-30-2.]

(4) The driver of an emergency vehicle exercising a privilege granted by subsection (1) must drive with due regard for safety, having regard to all the circumstances of the case, including the following:

(a) the nature, condition and use of the highway;

(b) the amount of traffic that is on, or might reasonably be expected to be on, the highway;

(c) the nature of the use being made of the emergency vehicle at the time.

zulutango 12-23-2010 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 7238292)
If he was trying to catch up to another car for a traffic stop, could not using the lights until initiating the stop be a way to avoid a chase?

Yes...it could

johny 12-23-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 7237922)
.. Under what circumstances..
is a police officer allowed to drive a police car at 40km/hr over the speed limit without any lights/sirens?

if they are being attacked by a gang with machine guns who already shot the lights and sirens off the car. and are speeding away to save themselfs?...

gdoh 12-23-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 7237922)
.. is a police officer allowed to drive a police car at 40km/hr over the speed limit without any lights/sirens?

dont lose sleep over it

sebberry 12-23-2010 12:20 PM

Excessive speed to catch a speeder. Love it. Thank you. :)

zulutango 12-23-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 7238542)
Excessive speed to catch a speeder. Love it. Thank you. :)

You mean like killing someone who is trying to murder someone else?

Dragon-88 12-23-2010 01:33 PM

Soo I saw this scenario in richmond yesterday.. Driving east on stevston was following a older gen corolla in the left lane.. Cop was in the right lane.. Then all of a sudden cop slows down to 40km/hr, lights up and pulls a u-turn right away all within less than 3 seconds.. Luckily the corolla in the left lane had just enough time to brake and avoid the cop.. Plus cop almost smokes the curb at the other end of the lane..

Technically who would be at faut if a accident were to occure? I mean if the corolla didnt slam on his breaks he woulda t-boned the cop.

boibuddha 12-23-2010 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 7238144)
You saw the same guy I did tonight? Cop car blew the first red after the Patullo southbound on King George, going at least 100 km/h.. nice air over the bumps too. No lights, no sirens.

Almost smoked me too (I had the green).

If this was roughly between ~9-11pm, I believe he was headed to the scene of an accident which was located between 98 and 100ave. Cops, ambulance, and fire trucks were there. The cop definately should have had his lights on at least, IMO. I was going about 70 when he passed me on the right.

sebberry 12-24-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7238574)
You mean like killing someone who is trying to murder someone else?

Very different situation. If you need to shoot someone in the moments before he goes from being a someone to a murderer then by all means, fire away and save a life.

zulutango 12-24-2010 07:00 PM

I'm sure if there was a way of catching up to someone who was going faster than you are, without actually going faster than they were, I'm sure that some new laws of physics would have to be discovered first?

johny 12-24-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7239991)
I'm sure if there was a way of catching up to someone who was going faster than you are, without actually going faster than they were, I'm sure that some new laws of physics would have to be discovered first?

it's possible if you add angles and direction ;)

LenovoTurbo 12-24-2010 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7239991)
I'm sure if there was a way of catching up to someone who was going faster than you are, without actually going faster than they were, I'm sure that some new laws of physics would have to be discovered first?

Quote:

Originally Posted by johny (Post 7240227)
it's possible if you add angles and direction ;)

Cutting corners and taking short cuts. ;)

mr_chin 12-25-2010 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 7237922)
.. is a police officer allowed to drive a police car at 40km/hr over the speed limit without any lights/sirens?

when their sirens are broken.

zulutango 12-25-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johny (Post 7240227)
it's possible if you add angles and direction ;)

How about if you are directly behind them??? ;)

Soundy 12-26-2010 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebberry (Post 7238267)
Geez.. and Soundy gives me hell for having an opinion...

Not for HAVING an opinion... but for always being an annoying douche about sharing it.

geeknerd 12-29-2010 11:03 PM

the chances of finding out why cops disregard traffic laws without light is close to nil. no point in asking revscene.
He couldve been responding to a incident nearby that required silent approach or some shit.
we have to be ok with cops disregarding any traffic rules b/c we will never know what the circumstances were.

cops own the streets.

Oleophobic 12-29-2010 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7238574)
You mean like killing someone who is trying to murder someone else?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zulutango (Post 7239991)
I'm sure if there was a way of catching up to someone who was going faster than you are, without actually going faster than they were, I'm sure that some new laws of physics would have to be discovered first?

well said :thumbsup:


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