Bye Bye Zellers, Hello Target (locations announced)

[Spectre_Cdn]

Originally Posted by Makariri

Yeah, I have no idea how Zellers has managed to stay afloat over the years - quite the dump of a chain, imo

The typical customer in Zellers is usually the 50-60+ crowd, or newer immigrant families. But with Walmart, Superstore and Costco, it's a difficult market for Zellers to compete in, imo. I think most of Zellers customers are just those who have become accustomed to shopping there; it's difficult for them to attract new customers with their aged image and average prices.
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[twitchyzero]

i'm surprised Zellers made it past the 2000's.

I still see them selling video games from few years ago at original MSRP haha

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by q0192837465

I don't understand the emphasis on services at all. It adds no value to the goods u r purchasing. If I want a box of cookies, I want to pay for a box of cookies, not a box of cookies plus 20 cents for service. The extra 20 cents doesn't make ur cookie taste better.
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If that were the case, then we'd all be buying goods from warehouses or eating at home. We're humans and it's in our nature to be social, in spite of the internet and new mediums of communication. At one particular store I worked at, we more than doubled our yearly sales despite charging 15-30% more than other stores because our manager emphasized customer service.

My uneducated guess...

As seen above, their one saving grace was the leases on the stores. I would imagine that concessions were made to make the stores more profitable. If Zellers died, you now have huge holes in malls all across Canada.

You're not far off. I read an article in the G&M today that stated that Zellers has very good long-term leases in many of its locations.

[Gumby]

I find the Zellers at Oakridge (a mall trying to become more "upscale") to be out of place...

[Minata]

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

I find this an odd move on HBC's part though, as Zellers appears to be doing better then the Bay and Home Sense.

Home Outfitters is part of HBC. HomeSense is part of Winners.

[JesseBlue]

so i was at zellers in metrotown...

the washroom are so old and unclean that its a wonder how it would sanitary...

oh well...

[MWR34]

Good time to buy this PS3:

http://www.target.com/PlayStation-Co...ef=huc_ic_1_pn

[willystyle]

^ Why is it so cheap?

[$_$]

^^ I just noticed in the description that its for a controller not the system ? I made an order, should i cancel it ?

[TOS'd]

YouTube

[$_$]

Cancelled my order from target, keeping the one from amazon though.

Some people have already called amazon, prob gonna get cancelled. Meh, what do i gotta lose =D

[dachinesedude]

http://money.ca.msn.com/investing/ne...entid=27300751

By Mary Gazze, The Canadian Press, thecanadianpress.com, Updated: January 18, 2011 5:12 PM

Fairweather files $250M suit against Target

Customers enter a Target Apparel store, proprety of Fairweather Ltd., in Sudbury, Ont. on Friday January 14, 2011. Clothing chain Fairweather Ltd. has filed a lawsuit against American discount retailer Target, on the grounds that it owns the right to use the name in Canada — though the U.S company says it sees no obstacle to its planned expansion into this country. THE CANADIAN PRESS 2011/Gino Donato

TORONTO - Clothing chain Fairweather Ltd. has filed a lawsuit against American discount retailer Target, on the grounds that it owns the right to use the name in Canada — though the U.S. company says it sees no obstacle to expanding into this country.

In documents filed in Federal Court on Monday, Fairweather said it is seeking up to $250 million in damages for alleged trademark infringement, and wants an injunction to block the U.S. Target chain from using the name in Canada.

Toronto-based Fairweather has owned the Canadian rights to the name for 10 years, when it bought assets from Dylex Ltd.

Dylex, was a Canadian company that once owned Fairweather and numerous other retail chains, had registered the "Target Apparel" name in 1981. Dylex was eventually split up, although many of its chains still operate.

Fairweather has been operating a Toronto clothing store under the name "Target Apparel" since 2005.

The flashy American Target, which is known for designer fashion collaborations at discount chain prices, announced last week that it plans to open more than 200 stores in Canada in the next decade as it takes over the leases for the majority of Zellers stores from the Hudson's Bay Company.

The American chain announced Tuesday that Tony Fisher has been named as president of Target Canada. The veteran Target executive will be responsible for building a Canadian team, establishing a headquarters and leading day-to-day operations related to the expansion.

Meanwhile, Fairweather claims the American retailer's entry into Canada would lead to a loss of customers, the devaluation of the Target Apparel name, and loss of control over its trademark and reputation.

It wants the court to declare that it has the sole right to use the "Target Apparel" name in Canada, and to prevent the U.S. retailer from using the name on any clothing labels or retail stores north of the border.

Fairweather said it also wants American Target to transfer ownership of the website targetapparel.com, which currently redirects to the U.S. chain's website.

Fairweather declined to comment Tuesday because the matter is before the courts.

Jessica Carlson, a spokeswoman for Target, said she could not comment on the court proceedings, but said Minneapolis-based Target expects to use the same name, slogan, branding and signature bull's-eye logo that it uses in the U.S.

"There really is nothing that prevents Target from using the Target name and branding elements in Canada the same way we do in the United States," she said.

But University of Ottawa trademark law professor Teresa Scassa said if the American chain enters Canada before the dispute is resolved, it could risk legal troubles.

"They can start to use the trademark in Canada but there is a risk that they will be sued," she said, explaining that if the two retailers sold completely different merchandise, it would not be an issue, but there is an overlap as the two companies both sell clothing.

"Then the risk of confusion increases significantly. So if Target in the U.S. is known for their line of fashion wear and you've got Target Apparel that sells clothing in Canada, the risk that there'll be some confusion is much more significant," she said, adding that it is up to the court to decide whether allowing the two names to coexist would be confusing.

The American Target launched the legal proceedings in November by filing its own trademark infringement lawsuit against Fairweather.

Last year, the U.S. retailer filed a challenge with Canada's trademark office, claiming the Fairweather owner hasn't been using the Target name. The Canadian company has since opened "Target Apparel" stores in Sudbury, Ont., and Nanaimo, B.C.

Fairweather temporarily lost ownership of the Target trademark in 2005 after the U.S. retailer moved to have it cancelled. Industry Canada said the trade mark was expunged, but the Federal Court of Appeal later ruled Fairweather's ownership should be reactivated.

Under U.S. Target's most recent challenge, Fairweather now has until the end of February to prove to the trademark office that it has used the name in the last three years, or had plans to use it, in order to keep its ownership rights.

Depending on the outcome, the American chain may have to choose between using a different Canadian name, or buying the Canadian rights.

Fairweather also owns discount menswear chain International Clothiers and department stores Les Ailes De La Mode in Quebec. It is not clear whether the company has plans to open more locations or convert its current stores to the Target Apparel name.

[jaebomb]

i rmb i ate once at the zellers restaurant and its not as bad as i thought it would be..

[Blinky]

Originally Posted by jaebomb

i rmb i ate once at the zellers restaurant and its not as bad as i thought it would be..

That's because it should be fucking impossible to screw up a burger and fries.

The restaurants are actually quite important for Zellers - they really serve a lot of food to the golden-agers, giving them reason to come to a store, stay in a store, and of course spend a bit of money in store.

[Okami]

zellers is like the only big retailer that had a mascot.. i think XD

i still have one of these guys in my basement storage (with a shirt) from when i was a kid.

and i remember zellers used to be awesome with the 99 cent breakfast that owned the ikea ones

[InvisibleSoul]

A list of 105 Zellers locations picked by Target for takeover

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bus...122672933.html

British Columbia

Abbotsford Power Centre, Abbotsford;
Metropolis at Metrotown, Burnaby;
Discovery Harbour Shopping Centre, Campbell River;
Cottonwood Mall, Chilliwack;
Coquitlam Centre, Coquitlam;
Driftwood Mall, Courtenay;
Tamarack Mall, Cranbrook;
Scottsdale Mall, Delta;
Willowbrook Shopping Centre, Langley;
Haney Place Mall, Maple Ridge.
Nanaimo North Town Centre, Nanaimo;
Pine Centre, Prince George;
Oakridge Shopping Centre, Vancouver;
Village Green Mall, Vernon;
Tillicum Mall, Victoria.

[Spectre_Cdn]

no more lansdowne

oh well... Richmond Centre was the OG Zellers of Richmond

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by $_$

Cancelled my order from target, keeping the one from amazon though.

Some people have already called amazon, prob gonna get cancelled. Meh, what do i gotta lose =D

So did you get your PS3? or refund??

[TheNewGirl]

Between Target and the Megawalmart coming into Poco/Coquitlam, and with Costco and Superstore already here, I shutter to think what this is going to do to local business.

But... good deals will be a plenty.

[twitchyzero]

apparently it's happening early 2013. I can't wait to see their pricing go head to head with walmart

[quasi]

Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul

A list of 105 Zellers locations picked by Target for takeover

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bus...122672933.html

My wife will be happy, the Langley one is so close to us and she's all about the Target.

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by Spectre_Cdn

no more lansdowne

oh well... Richmond Centre was the OG Zellers of Richmond

I don't see Lansdowne in the list posted by InvisibleSoul...

[melloman]

Originally Posted by sonick

HBC was sold to Americans years ago, who turned it into a very profitable company. Zellers was a weak link and they managed to sell it for more than they originally bought HBC for.

^^ This. Lord & Tailor bought them out afew years ago. They kept the symbolic name "The Bay" for just that reason; tradition and symbolism. There have been talks in the last few months about this buy out by Target so it shouldn't be that big of a surprise.

IMO Target>Zellers, hopefully they will bring the food that they only sell in the US over to Canada

[TheNewGirl]

They are supposed to be bringing their food lines up here (as are the mega Walmarts).

While generally I'm very anti big box, as someone with food allergies, this is AWESOME as the US has a lot more allergy friendly brands then we do.

[fliptuner]

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

Between Target and the Megawalmart coming into Poco/Coquitlam, ........

Holy crap, I never even noticed the WalMart and I'm at that Costco almost every weekend. Actually, leaving to go to Costco and HD right now.

The Coast Meridian Bridge sure opened up that area for me since I live at the South foot of it.