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Old 01-31-2011, 01:06 PM   #26
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I'm a dog lover, our last was a rescue that was going to be put down. The owners were terrible and caused all the bad behavior. Love that little bugger, he's great now!

That said, it looks like they solved their problem. There is no lack of dogs out there.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:07 PM   #27
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Can someone explain the difference between a cow and a dog?
The difference between the two species is the degree of affection they generally choose to show humans, and in turn the value society places on their lives.

Anyone who truly loves animals however, doesn't see any difference between the two.


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cows stand there and eat grass.
Thats the perception imposed on society to prevent people from placing a value on the lives of a staple food source, cows aren't that friendly towards people, but they show a lot of affection towards one another and have distinct unique personalities.

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Can someone explain the difference between a cow and a dog?
yes, we're aware there is a double standard, like many other things in our society
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yes, we're aware there is a double standard, like many other things in our society
There are also plenty of us that make the choice, at considerable expense to buy cruelty free meat products to spare the cows and chickens from undue suffering as well. Yes they still die, but there are free range animals that experience a far better quality of life at least while they are alive. And also many many people who are vegatarians or vegans not because they really really like salad but because they don't believe it's wrong the way we treat animals across the board.
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There are also plenty of us that make the choice, at considerable expense to buy cruelty free meat products to spare the cows and chickens from undue suffering as well. Yes they still die, but there are free range animals that experience a far better quality of life at least while they are alive. And also many many people who are vegatarians or vegans not because they really really like salad but because they don't believe it's wrong the way we treat animals across the board.
Well, yeah, if you want to get all politically correct on me, we can consider the 2% population who'd drop a premium to enjoy a guilt-free cheeseburger. Mind you, I'm talking about the generally accepted social norms we've established in this country today. And that's what the double-standard presents itself as: killing dogs to conserve funds = bad, cheap burgers = okay.

Realistically, this particular set of dogs didn't have to die: they could've been sent somewhere up north and given to an inuit family who'd use them for dog sledding.
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Yes, that's true. But that portion of the population is growing rather quickly. In fact ethical products are one of the fastest growing retail trends be it environmentally friendly products, organic foods or cruelty free foods. The trend is the population moving in that direction. A good one IMO.

But you're right. The population generally is gentler towards animals we live close to. Most people don't know how insanely smart pigs are (much, much smarter than your dog), because then they wouldn't eat bacon, and such. Dogs = Friends & Pseudo-Children, Cows = Nummy Food and Belts.

As you said, and as many animal rescuers have said on the coverage of this, this wasn't a forgone conclusion. One of the people who had had contact with the dogs even stated that these were a more socialized breed of huskies than normal sled dogs and probably could have integrated into rural homes as well as being shifted to sled jobs else where.
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You heard wrong, sled dogs are probally the MOST domesticated dogs out there. They are trained to work with humans and to live with the human pack. How much more domesticated can they be? What do you think they just strap up wild feral dogs to the sleds and then suddenly they will work as a pack/team? If you couldn't train them they would just fight each other or run in different directions instead of pulling a sled. You gotta be kidding me.
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Tachy,the personnal info has now been removed from the site where it was originally posted,if you want me to also remove my post with the quotes,just let me know.


Nah. You're not the person who originally posted his info. They're the ones in the wrong, not you. Theres no personal information here so its not a big deal.

I think they crossed a serious line when they did tho
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You heard wrong, sled dogs are probally the MOST domesticated dogs out there. They are trained to work with humans and to live with the human pack. How much more domesticated can they be? What do you think they just strap up wild feral dogs to the sleds and then suddenly they will work as a pack/team? If you couldn't train them they would just fight each other or run in different directions instead of pulling a sled. You gotta be kidding me.
exactly! what kind of tard doesn't think you could put a dog that's used to running for kilometers into a 700 sq ft apartment and take it for a walk once a day?
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You heard wrong, sled dogs are probally the MOST domesticated dogs out there. They are trained to work with humans and to live with the human pack. How much more domesticated can they be? What do you think they just strap up wild feral dogs to the sleds and then suddenly they will work as a pack/team? If you couldn't train them they would just fight each other or run in different directions instead of pulling a sled. You gotta be kidding me.
You obviously haven't read White Fang / Call of the Wild
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Nah. You're not the person who originally posted his info. They're the ones in the wrong, not you. Theres no personal information here so its not a big deal.

I think they crossed a serious line when they did tho
That's a relief,I made sure I edited the asshole's address & phone number before I submitted my post.
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Sled dogs are a well domesticated and established breed with many long pedigrees, they aren't a group of wolf-cross muts running around in the snow that could be considered barely domesticated.

They are NOT suited to live in urban environments, however. They are a breed meant to exercise and work long hard days and without that stimulation they're miserable, much like border collies.

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You heard wrong, sled dogs are probally the MOST domesticated dogs out there. They are trained to work with humans and to live with the human pack. How much more domesticated can they be? What do you think they just strap up wild feral dogs to the sleds and then suddenly they will work as a pack/team? If you couldn't train them they would just fight each other or run in different directions instead of pulling a sled. You gotta be kidding me.
Sled dogs are pack animals, pure and simple. Yes, they're trained to be friendly with the handler, but they are by no means a simple, domesticated dog that you can let run free in a dog park (hell, or even your backyard). They still retain a high sense of independence and require a strong "leader" (ie: you) even after a lot of training. A true sled dog requires a lot of work to simply keep happy; they're definitely not something you pick up because you like the looks of it.

One of my old neighbours had a sled dog team and they were quite ferocious. As a kid, we weren't allowed anywhere near them.
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You obviously havent read White Fang / Call of the Wild
You obviously didn't comprehend what you were reading.

White fang is wolf cross and Buck is a Saint Bernard/Scotch shepherd cross, neither of which are breeds being referred to.
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Huskies in general are pretty mean dogs, no family is going to take on one of these sled dogs as a pet, that wouldnt happen regardless of conditions.

with that said it obviously wasnt the right thing to do, but these dogs cant just be handed out for pets.
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it's a horrible thing to do... they probably didn't choose the vet path since it cost more
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You think they just go "oh I guess nobody wants these" then kill them all?
what? no.... i just knew there were going to be a tonne of "oh how can they just up and kill 100 dogs" so i reiterated the obvious point that they did try to find homes for them
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Sled dogs aren’t pets and adopting them out would have been a difficult process, requiring trained handlers to step forward.

But that’s still no excuse for what took place, said Rich Bittner, owner of Canmore’s Howling Dog Tours.

but i just read a few more details on the conditions they were killed in

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Though it’s legal to kill pets and livestock in B.C., it must be done in a humane manner.

If the WorkSafe BC documents are correct, that didn’t happen.

The report is sickening, with passages describing a dog with half its face shot off still running in fear, and another dog still crawling around 20 minutes after taking a bullet.
ugh.... that's horrible

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/colum.../17104521.html

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You obviously didn't comprehend what you were reading.

White fang is wolf cross and Buck is a Saint Bernard/Scotch shepherd cross, neither of which are breeds being referred to.
Because those books only talk about one kind of dog right? I referenced those books in regards to sled / pack dogs.
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damn they just killed them ??
should at least eaten them
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If someone would have told me "we need a home for these dogs or they are going to be killed" I would have had two dogs laying on the bed with me right now
There are literally hundreds of dogs that get put down every year due to no one wanting them at the SPCA. If you are this concerned, I really suggest you go to your local SPCA and adopt a dog there.
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If you go out for a walk once a day, then getting a dog is the last thing you should do. Maybe get yourself a goldfish, while u sit around on the couch and grow your gut. How about pairing a dog with all these stupid jogger chix that u hear get murdered? Wouldn't happen with ole sledhead beside u.
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When was the last time you heard about a husky killing or maiming someone the way pitbulls do, yet I see way more pitbulls out there than huskies.
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with that said it obviously wasnt the right thing to do, but these dogs cant just be handed out for pets.
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[QUOTE=Death2Theft;7287124 yet I see way more pitbulls out there than huskies.[/QUOTE]

Think about that real hard.
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