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Jayhall · 02-01-2011, 08:05 AM

lol, Im confused. Everyone says adopt a dog, I state that Ive already done so and I get failed for it?? Someone enlighten me

Hondaracer · 02-01-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by spyker

Ah the stereotypes soon come out.

I have 3 pitbulls and I certainly don't own any article of clothing that says "Ed Hardy" on it.I also know plenty of people who own pitbulls too,none of them are mean to their dogs or wear "Ed Hardy" clothing.

I treat my dogs better than I treat people.

Stereotypes are there for a reason, 80% of pitbull owners buy them because they want the image, I like pitbulls they are very nice dogs in the hands of the right owner, but its just ignorance to think that that vast majority of pitbull owners are actually respectable, dog loving people, go take a drive through surrey, delta, east van and Prett much anyone you see walking a pitbull the first thing that comes to mind is "typical"
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The_AK · 02-01-2011, 08:27 AM

I wonder if shooting dogs is part of their outdoor adventures activities?

Although they probably shouldn't have SHOT the dogs in the face, I can understand that it must have been incredibly difficult financially. I mean try to feed 100 dogs for a week. Sad nonetheless.

TheNewGirl · 02-01-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer

straight up if my dog bit some kid or something and i had to put him down, imo i think i'd rather go somewhere private and shoot him myself than take him to a vet and have him live in complete terror for the last minutes of his life.

with that said, it doesnt really apply to 100 dogs

Having recently had to put a family pet down Hondaracer, this isn't the experience at all. In fact it's rather calm, usually the animal is given a sedative and is very relaxed and the whole process is much more painless and less terrifying than being shot at and risk what happened to these poor animals which is surviving the first blow and dying both in pain and fear.

Gumby · 02-01-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

Having recently had to put a family pet down Hondaracer, this isn't the experience at all. In fact it's rather calm, usually the animal is given a sedative and is very relaxed and the whole process is much more painless and less terrifying than being shot at and risk what happened to these poor animals which is surviving the first blow and dying both in pain and fear.

Yeah, I watched the vet put my collie down in Nov 2009, and the process you describe is pretty much exactly what happened. Terrifying for me, but not so much for my dog.

Greenstoner · 02-01-2011, 10:28 AM

sad story bro

Ch28 · 02-01-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer

straight up if my dog bit some kid or something and i had to put him down, imo i think i'd rather go somewhere private and shoot him myself than take him to a vet and have him live in complete terror for the last minutes of his life.

Watch this video - especially the part where they're at the vet and tell me that isn't the most peaceful and humane way of putting down your beloved pet & best friend.

MindBomber · 02-01-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhall

My last dog came from a shelter in Pemberton, they got him off the reserve. Shepard, huskey and black lab mix as it seems they dont do their part in controlling the pet population. I figure I am probably a couple months away from talking my landlords into having a dog at my place. I know where I'll be looking. Who knows, maybe a can trade an indian a 8 pack of Pilsner tall boys for one of his puppys

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Originally Posted by Jayhall

lol, Im confused. Everyone says adopt a dog, I state that Ive already done so and I get failed for it?? Someone enlighten me

Adopting a dog is fantastic, every dog I've ever had has been adopted from a shelter and I don't think I would ever get a dog any other way.

The native alcoholic stereotype is why your being failed.

Jayhall · 02-01-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MindBomber

Adopting a dog is fantastic, every dog I've ever had has been adopted from a shelter and I don't think I would ever get a dog any other way.

The native alcoholic stereotype is why your being failed.

I dont think I implied that...... I trade beer for stuff all the time. Someone has a part in their garage they dont really want, I give them a 6 pack for it. At my old place my landlord would give me a bottle of polar ice when ever Ipaid rent early. Does that make me an alcholic? Someone comes over to help work on my car or truck, I put a 12 case infront of them. Hell Ive even had my windshield replaced for the cost of a 8 pack of tall boys. Better fail all of North America because they traded with indians when they came here.

Maybe some people aren't aware but an indian reservation isn't exactly a nice place for a dog to be raised. ACCORDING TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN PEMBERTON, dogs are beat, tied up, rarely fed and overall treated like shit. People dont care about them there, thats why they end up eating out of the garbage. Generally puppies are a way to common thing, as no one has had their dogs spade or netered. If you can get a dog of the reso, give it a loving home with a full plate of food, walks every day and a back yard to play in, you are doing just as good a job as adopting from a shelter in my eyes. Like I said, thats where my last dog came from and this is what the shelter told me about dogs from the reservation. Not something I made up because of stereotypes.

Either way it doesnt matter, I guess its not a fun joke unless someones offended. Fact still is I cant wait to adopt my next puppy, even if I trade peices of paper with some old lady on them for it. Thanks for at least telling me what you didnt like about my post. This place needs more men

MindBomber · 02-01-2011, 12:39 PM

^If I had any thanks less today, I would give you one for accepting the criticism like a man; To many people on this site childishly revenge fail people.

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Better fail all of North America because they traded with indians when they came here.

Trading firewater with natives was a practice meant to deliberately harm them, it's not a point in history anyone is proud of and it's a big part of whats caused the problems on reservations today. The chug, alcoholic native stereotype just gets really old after hearing it enough times, but if that wasn't you intention then fail removed.

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ACCORDING TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN PEMBERTON, dogs are beat, tied up, rarely fed and overall treated like shit.

I can't vouch for that reservation as I haven't personally visited it, but it's best not to generalize. I've been on many reserves and had varying experiences, some are well maintained with a clean population and others are terrible places to live. Pemberton is pretty remote, so I don't doubt that the stories you've heard are true.

Hondaracer · 02-01-2011, 04:48 PM

Im not sure which reservation this was, but it was somewhere in the interior

The stray dog/animal problem was getting so bad that it was causing disease, etc.

the local SPCA/government gave the reservation 500 FREE vouchers for a spay/neuter which normal costs somthing like $60 or w/e

they said over the next 2 years, TWO vouchers were used..

Hurricane · 02-01-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Im not sure which reservation this was, but it was somewhere in the interior

The stray dog/animal problem was getting so bad that it was causing disease, etc.

the local SPCA/government gave the reservation 500 FREE vouchers for a spay/neuter which normal costs somthing like $60 or w/e

they said over the next 2 years, TWO vouchers were used..

Yeah, because the rest were traded away for 6 packs of tallboys

kungpow · 02-05-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PuYang

but alot of cows are raised with the intention of milking or killing for beef and other things. dogs are not.

So you are saying if my dogs are raised with the intention of killing for meat and other things, it is still okay to have them killed then?

Why is everyone making a big fuss about this? Why not talk about the people that died in the Egypt protest? What about chickens, do we not give a fuck about them?

Noir · 02-05-2011, 07:48 PM

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So you are saying if my dogs are raised with the intention of killing for meat and other things, it is still okay to have them killed then?

Why is everyone making a big fuss about this? Why not talk about the people that died in the Egypt protest? What about chickens, do we not give a fuck about them?

We are. There's an even bigger thread in this very same sub-forum talking about the Egypt Protest; and maybe not chickens specifically but the discussion between dogs vs. livestock has already been covered with the example of cows and geese.

Talk about about a massive holier-than-thou failure right there.

kungpow · 02-05-2011, 09:10 PM

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We are. There's an even bigger thread in this very same sub-forum talking about the Egypt Protest; and maybe not chickens specifically but the discussion between dogs vs. livestock has already been covered with the example of cows and geese.

Talk about about a massive holier-than-thou failure right there.

So why spend our tax dollars investing this bullshit?

Hondaracer · 02-05-2011, 09:31 PM

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So why spend our tax dollars investing this bullshit?

it's all about the perception

people like dogs, dogs get killed in a "cruel" manner that people look at as disgusting etc. public outcry demands an investigation even though in the end, what you are going to find is about as much as anyone could imagine, some dead dogs and a guy who killed them

it's the same shit with all the gang shootings etc. all about public perception, how many people have been shot/killed out in public places, in all those times not one innocent bystander has even been put in the line of danger, yet public perception demands more police presence, new laws, etc. which in the end, do very little, as will the dog investigation.

Noir · 02-05-2011, 09:42 PM

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So why spend our tax dollars investing this bullshit?

First of all, your primary response was not a criticism of "need for investigation" rather than a criticism of the rhetoric between "killing livestock vs. killing dogs."

Secondly, if charges of animal cruelty are to be laid or not requires an investigation. The determination of laying charges or not aren't supposed to be willy nilly so there goes the response to your "why is an investigation neccessary"

Oh, and BTW, this is far from the similarity of the Pickton case so I doubt investigating animal cruelty will run near the millions in costs. I don't imagine any exhumation requirements, so I'm guessing it's just probably a bunch of social workers interviewing people of interest within the case.