This is annoying. If you check s2ki forums, there are plenty of people who have respect for vette, and some have made the switch from s2k to vette. Now why are vette fanboys wasting bandwidths in a thread about S2000?

Doesnt death2theft drive a scion?
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Yes, I do. Whats your point?

No point really. I was just curious :)
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How is the scion going up hills?

^ bahahahha holy win!

Great actually I am in fifth gear doing 60km in the city because of super short gearing makes the engine seem very torquey. Actually one of the most annoying things about it is that on pzero neros it breaks traction going up wet hills all the time. Unlike the s2k , without a clutch dump you'd be struggling to break traction by 7k in the wet, absolutely MISERABLE. But hey if revving around at 9k makes you feel like the king of vtec then good for you. Personally if i'm revving that high i'd need to be in at least a sub 12 second car.

cool story bro

im also debating whether a s2000 will be a good DD. what are the common issues with ap1 / ap2? if i rmb, wasn't there a big issue with AP1's transmission?

Well some of us can only dream about owning an 89 accord unlike some people.

Well let's be reasonable here...

2008 S2000
Weight: 2765
TQ: 162
HP: 237
1st: 3.13:1
2nd: 2.04:1
3rd: 1.48:1
4th: 1.16:1
5th: 0.94:1
6th: 0.76:1
Secondary gear reduction: 1.208
Final drive: 4.100

Actual final in 5th is 3.854 (Plus you still have an extra gear for the hwy)

Giving you a TQ/Weight ratio of 0.058 ft.lbs per pound.


2008 Scion XB
Weight: 3020
TQ: 162
HP: 158
Gear ratios
1st: 3.54:1
2nd: 1.90:1
3rd: 1.31:1
4th: 0.96:1
5th: 0.81:1
Final: 4.31

Actual final in 5th is 3.491

Giving you a TQ/weight ratio of 0.053 ft.lbs per pound.

So basically, in the S2k, you have a car with the same amount of crank TQ, that weighs about 250lbs less, has 79 more HP... and shorter gearing (In 5th gear anyway, which is the only gear you use according to your never ending hill climbing posts)

It's pretty obvious you just have a hate on for the S2k, first you compared it to a Vette (Which you don't own..), then a Scion, none of which had anything to do with the thread subject.

So hows about you just GTFO and put an end to the outrageous owning that just took place.

(Disclaimer)**I might be wrong about which scion you drive, but you said 5th gear so I assume you have the C-150 5 spd.**

an 89 accord your other car?

There was a TSB for replacement of one component in the trans from brass to carbon.. I can't recall what part it was though.

No issues really, look at the miles on most AP1/AP2 and the service history, the cars are just as reliable as any othe Honda.

It's not reliability that will prevent you from making this a DD, its whether or not you can live with any 2 seater.

Besides there is far superior vehicles out there, like the Chevrolet Corvette and the Scion XB. Right death2theft?

I dont have an 08 minivan mine weighs 2400. If i wanted to drive around a big heavy pos for a DD i'd get a real suv/minivan. Go drive a shitbox with more torque than hp, has a redline that ends before your mighty vtec even wakes up and weighs 400lbs. Then you might discover what a usable powerband feels like.
The only owning i'm aware of is you thinking 2jz = solution to everything, which only a imbecile would think given that the lsx wins road racing champsionships left and right. Where as the only thing the 2jz competes against officially are fwd drag racing hondas.

If you think pointing out the s2k's dd shortcoming = me flaming and you getting your panties in a bunch than your obviously too blinded by your temple of vtec and the fanboys of the temple.

Great if you have an s2k as your summer car (Y)

your scion weighs 2400lbs?

what model do you own?

Funny cause Reg Reimer ran the "one lap of america" in his a supra powered by... you guessed it... 2jz gte and came in 4th place. Yeah he was behind one Vette, but he was also in front of many more... and this was back in 2000... supra support stateside was still in it's infancy, he was and still is a considered a pioneer in the supra world.
http://www.monsterhorsepower.com/

Back to the subject at hand, I think you were about to tell us all about your "sporty" Scion?

I like how you tried to shift attention away from your own stupidity by bringing up a statement with was only used as an obvious satire in the first place.

The only reason your Scion even breaks the wheels lose going up hills in the rain is cause of the 15" garbage all season 75 series tires.

Listen you idiot, I've been in Reg Reimers car when it was in Vancouver. How many lsx's have placed higher than him since then? Take as many 2jz's competing as you want did any of them ever win? How about 12 hr races or 24 hr races? What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Here you are bringing up stuff that makes zero sense.
Dont ask a question you dont want answered. Simple as that.
Well I'll be damned if having driven a car before making comparisons makes me stupid. Hey maybe if you put on some lipstick Reg will let you touch his 4th place 2jz.
Again you clearly fail at reading this is the third time in the same thread you chose to overlook what is clearly stated. Pzero Nero's are probally sticker than what you drive around on.

we are still waiting to hear about your kick ass scion

You must be really heavy or unable to properly drive. Even my slowass civic can make it up any hills just fine.

Cleary, if you think you need to rev to 7k to break traction (in an s2k for example) you clearly don't know how to drive. Stop arguing with hopes and dreams.

If I was heavy there'd be more weight on the tires. Guess what! I can make it up hills just fine too if i'm not flooring it in 1st and second! Jesus Christ.
I have driven all the engines I speak of. From n/a to forced induction setups. Except of course the xb, which would be a waste of $. Now before any of you temple of Vtec fanboys start posting. Why dont you go do the same before posting?
Really? Tell me when accelerating from 1st gear in a straight line, at a normal start off idle how you plan on breaking traction before 7k with an s2k?

Really, this should be a discussion on the DD ability of an s2k. Not how shitty s2k's are compared to vettes or how Vtec's are for retards who love redlining or the hill climbing capabilities of certain cars.

i can break traction below 7k


so your amazing scion can break traction with no problem?

So what you're saying is, Reg let you in his car because you were wearing lipstick?



Sorry, did you say something about a hill?

LOL you were talking about wet conditions and now flipping it to dry?

So you also drove a 1000hp supra on pump gas?

honestly, i think the biggest honda fan boy in here is you...you seem to know a lot about them.