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achiam 02-07-2011 03:46 PM

Judge bans man with low IQ from having sex.
 
Judge bans man with low IQ from having sex


BY MARTIN BECKFORD, THE DAILY TELEGRAPH, UK, FEBRUARY 4, 2011


A man with a low IQ has been banned from having sexual intercourse by a High Court judge who admitted the case raised questions about "civil liberties and personal autonomy".

The 41 year-old had been in a relationship with a man with whom he lived and told officials "it would make me feel happy" for it to continue.

But his local council, which provides his accommodation, decided his "vigorous sex drive" was inappropriate and that with an IQ of 48 and a "moderate" learning disability, he did not understand what he was doing. It started legal proceedings to restrict the relationship.

A psychiatrist involved in the case tried to prevent the man being given sex education, on the grounds that it would leave him "confused".

Mr Justice Mostyn said the case was "legally, intellectually and morally" complex as sex is "one of the most basic human functions" and the court must "tread especially carefully" when the state tries to curtail it.

But he agreed that the man, known only as Alan, should not be allowed to have intercourse with anyone on the grounds that he did not have the mental capacity to understand the health risks associated with his actions.

Under the judge's order, the man is now subject to "close supervision" by the local authority to ensure he does not break the highly unusual order. The judge concluded: "Alan does not have the capacity to consent to and engage in sexual relations.

"In such circumstances it is agreed that the present regime for Alan's supervision and for the prevention of future sexual activity is in his best interests."

It is the latest controversial case to come before Britain's Court of Protection. Under the Mental Capacity Act 2005, its judges have the power to make life-or-death decisions for people deemed to lack the intelligence to make them for themselves - such as ordering that they undergo surgery, have forced abortions, have life-support switched off or be forced to use contraception.

In the latest case, the man known as Alan was described as being physically able but "seriously challenged in all aspects of his mental functionality". He lived in a home provided by the council, where he developed a sexual relationship with a man called Kieron by the court. Alan was also accused of making lewd gestures at children in a dentists' surgery and on a bus, although no police action was taken.

The town hall began court proceedings in 2009 to restrict contact with Kieron on the grounds that he lacked mental capacity, and an interim order was made.

"Since then Alan has been subjected to close supervision to prevent any further sexual activity on his part," said the judge.

© Copyright (c) The Daily Telegraph
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Jud...699/story.html

Jayhall 02-07-2011 04:18 PM

Well Im glad someone has finally stopped stupid people from reproducing

shenmecar 02-07-2011 04:22 PM

He wont be reproducing, hes gay.........

Jayhall 02-07-2011 05:09 PM

hmmm, well I guess there are more complex reasons behind this restriction.

MindBomber 02-07-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhall (Post 7296373)
hmmm, well I guess there are more complex reasons behind this restriction.

Did you read the article?

ajax 02-07-2011 05:35 PM

They released his name, its Peter Griffin.
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Vansterdam 02-07-2011 05:46 PM

Lol wtf
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1exotic 02-07-2011 06:04 PM

http://i52.tinypic.com/az6tjn.jpg

MG1 02-07-2011 06:36 PM

3/4 of the American public would have to stop having sex, then.

Gridlock 02-07-2011 06:59 PM

I hate the UK. That whole concept that the gov't can live your life better than you. It's scary!

First, I think this definitely has something to do with it being homo. Scary right there.

Second, where is the cut off to being allowed to get laid? IQ of 45, no ass for you, but 50 is cool, go get it on?

Third, he's a ward of the state, so that makes it seem like they have a right to make decisions for him.

You couldn't pay me enough to move there. Visit for a week, sure. Never would I knowingly move to the UK. Cameras everywhere, tax and spend policies that will eventually go bust.

Shit...I could go on forever. Bad, bad place.

baggdis300 02-07-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gridlock (Post 7296516)
I hate the UK. That whole concept that the gov't

Third, he's a ward of the state, so that makes it seem like they have a right to make decisions for him.

.


'nuff said

hes a burden on the state, so they can dictate his life.

or let him live in the streets then he can do what ever gayseks he wants

SoulCrusher 02-07-2011 07:28 PM

According to that logic, half of those that frequent RS would be banned from having sex. Hate to say it, but it might do society some good.

hchang 02-07-2011 07:31 PM

I wish they would ban people with low IQs here on Revscene...

CKLCKL 02-07-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hchang (Post 7296565)
I wish they would ban people with low IQs here on Revscene...

then where would you go?

hchang 02-07-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKLCKL (Post 7296637)
then where would you go?

Vancouver Mustangs :troll:

Gridlock 02-07-2011 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggdis300 (Post 7296555)
'nuff said

hes a burden on the state, so they can dictate his life.

or let him live in the streets then he can do what ever gayseks he wants

I'll guarantee you people would care more if he wasn't wanting to do men. That's a problem for me, as I'm a firm believer in the gov't not belonging in bedrooms. Period.

If he was scoring with a woman, people would be congratulating him.

As far as him being on social assistance, what does it really matter?

SkinnyPupp 02-07-2011 08:47 PM

The headline sounds scarily like eugenics, bringing science back a few hundred years or so. But really it makes sense, it's more about the guy not being able to take proper care of himself.

EDIT: Wow, not as long ago as I thought... Read the whole Wiki on it, it's quite fascinating (and scary)

ra604 02-07-2011 11:01 PM

epic thread

The_AK 02-08-2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulCrusher (Post 7296562)
According to that logic, half of those that frequent RS would be banned from having sense. Hate to say it, but it might do society some good.

I believe in the early 20th century the US forced sterilization of some lower class people, however, I also believe that the gov't didn't follow through with this completely since its easier to control "dumb" people.

Jayhall 02-08-2011 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7296376)
Did you read the article?

Ya for some reason I registered it as a typo. I guess in hopes that someone had stopped stupid people from reproducing. False alarm, but would it be against the rules for him to switch teams again?

!Yaminashi 02-08-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulCrusher (Post 7296562)
According to that logic, half of those that frequent RS would be banned from having sense. Hate to say it, but it might do society some good.

WUT??

Phil@rise 02-08-2011 12:09 PM

"A psychiatrist involved in the case tried to prevent the man being given sex education, on the grounds that it would leave him "confused"."

Why would basic sex ed confuse him being that its a instinctive urge? Because basic sex ed is based on straight coupling. One would assume this half wit has never had a chance to copulate with a woman. A difference he has yet to distinguish so he satisfies those urges with a man.
By these assessments I think it would be safe to assume the gov is basing this judgment on the fact its a gay relationship if he was screwing a woman he'd be left alone and or be given sex ed in an attempt to understand the risks.

PiuYi 02-08-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7296725)
EDIT: Wow, not as long ago as I thought... Read the whole Wiki on it, it's quite fascinating (and scary)

Quote:

In Alberta, the Sexual Sterilization Act was enacted in 1928, focusing the movement on the sterilization of mentally deficient individuals, as determined by the Alberta Eugenics Board.

Individuals were assessed using IQ tests like the Stanford-Binet. This posed a problem to new immigrants arriving in Canada, as many had not mastered the English language, and often their scores denoted them as having impaired intellectual functioning. As a result, many of those sterilized under the Sexual Sterilization Act were immigrants who were unfairly categorized.[102] The province of British Columbia enacted its own Sexual Sterilization Act in 1933. As in Alberta, the British Columbia Eugenics Board could recommend the sterilization of those it considered to be suffering from "mental disease or mental deficiency."

Although the eugenics excesses of Nazi Germany diminished the popularity of the eugenics movement, the Sexual Sterilization Acts of Alberta and British Columbia were not repealed until 1972
crazyballs

Nightwalker 02-08-2011 08:38 PM

I'm half surprised they didn't make this into some type of statutory rape charge for the other party as well considering the ruling.

murmur 02-11-2011 09:05 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oviePoster.jpg


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