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willystyle 04-18-2012 04:31 PM

I guess he prefers China over Vancouver cause that's where he's playing now.

will068 04-18-2012 11:25 PM

Fuck Stu Jackson... Fuck Otis Thorpe... and Fuck Steve Francis....

fishCak3s 04-18-2012 11:42 PM

^fuck stu jackson +1

wasabisashimi 04-19-2012 12:14 AM

fuck big country

bballguy 04-19-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wasabisashimi (Post 7892709)
fuck big country

Why are you blaming him?? It's not his fault he was signed for $65-mill over 6 years when he hadn't proven shit; what is he supposed to say? "no thanks, I'm going to have to kindly decline that offer because I don't think I'm worth it"??....again, +2 on the fuck Stu Jackson...

Manic! 04-19-2012 01:33 AM

So who here will buy seasons tickets if we get a team?

ae101 04-19-2012 01:48 AM

lol i remember a few of my friends that bought tickets to the grizz games just to see Jordan play back when he was with the bulls

but seriously i think getting a team is just too much for vancouver to handle ATM, wait & see how thinks turn out

IF STU JACKSON COMES BACK IM GONNA FLY BACK TO KILL HIM

G-spec 04-19-2012 08:44 AM

the NBA is one of those pro sports leagues where you can screw and fck up anything and everything you touch, leave your job and go work for another team or end up in the NBA front office like Stu. Stu hit teh big payday when he moved up, me and my friends always joke around how he must have had some major dirt on some bigshot NBA execs to have weaseled his way into that job.

Happens with head coaches all the time especially they just move to another team when they get fired or leave, on a similar note I can't understate how idiotic it is to have a guy who used to be a gotdang video co-ordinator (yes the guy with no playing nor coaching background whatsoever in the video room chopping up clips making copies for players) to move his ass up all the way to head coaching position. That just blows my mind, and there's a handful of coaches like that in the NBA currently, it's almost like going from the mail room to being CEO of a company.

Mike Oxbig 04-19-2012 08:59 AM

Rather have a MLB team instead of basketball here.

Mozo 04-19-2012 09:11 AM

if they didnt move the sonic's to okc, that would have been good enough for me. Would be a close enough drive to see one of the top teams in the west for the next how ever many years.

If the grizz come back, they should sign Lin and make Yao come out of retirement, would be a media frenzy in this city.

GLOW 04-19-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by G-spec (Post 7892903)
I can't understate how idiotic it is to have a guy who used to be a gotdang video co-ordinator (yes the guy with no playing nor coaching background whatsoever in the video room chopping up clips making copies for players) to move his ass up all the way to head coaching position. That just blows my mind,

when i heard a commentator describe the coach's previous position i was like :rukidding::heckno:

wasn't it erik spolstra?

Manic! 04-19-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mozo (Post 7892914)
if they didnt move the sonic's to okc, that would have been good enough for me. Would be a close enough drive to see one of the top teams in the west for the next how ever many years.

If the grizz come back, they should sign Lin and make Yao come out of retirement, would be a media frenzy in this city.

:rukidding:

They should also sign Kobe and bring Jordan out of retirement too.

GLOW 04-19-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mozo
they should sign Lin and make Yao come out of retirement

lets not forget menke bateer, yijianlian, wang zhizhi, and sun yue :lawl:

Vansterdam 04-19-2012 04:07 PM

fuck stu jackson

DanHibiki 04-19-2012 04:08 PM

Lin and Nash in Vancouver would be sex

i-VTEC 04-19-2012 04:09 PM

Hockey is still first, but I don't see Basketball can be too far behind it too, Might even take over who knows. With the Chinese keeps coming in here, basketball will become more and more popular. Most Chinese Immigrate, are mostly canucks bandwagoner, just during the deep playoff not regular season games, yet don't even play hockey at all, but they do play basketball at University/College Gyms, or Community Centre, or Their Backyard almost like every day. Asian, who pay attentions to Canucks, are CBC or those who been here in Vancouver for 5+ years at least. So I believe having a NBA team here, will definitely have the fan base. Asian booming in Vancouver were like during year 2005 and on going. If only they didn't move in 2001

quasi 04-19-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by d87c (Post 7893219)
Hockey is still first, but I don't see Basketball can be too far behind it too, Might even take over who knows.

It's so far behind that it can't be seen from earth. Not a chance in hell, not in our lifetimes. That's like saying given time the Kings will be more popular then the Lakers, it's not happening.

Tim Budong 04-19-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by d87c (Post 7893219)
Hockey is still first, but I don't see Basketball can be too far behind it too, Might even take over who knows. With the Chinese keeps coming in here, basketball will become more and more popular. Most Chinese Immigrate, are mostly canucks bandwagoner, just during the deep playoff not regular season games, yet don't even play hockey at all, but they do play basketball at University/College Gyms, or Community Centre, or Their Backyard almost like every day. Asian, who pay attentions to Canucks, are CBC or those who been here in Vancouver for 5+ years at least. So I believe having a NBA team here, will definitely have the fan base. Asian booming in Vancouver were like during year 2005 and on going. If only they didn't move in 2001

You sound like you think the NBA will work if all us chinese ppl gathered to support the team... That is just a small small small factor of the big picture

will068 04-19-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 7893254)
You sound like you think the NBA will work if all us chinese ppl gathered to support the team... That is just a small small small factor of the big picture


haha exactly.

If you check out the crowds in the past exhibition games and Steve Nash Charity Games, the crowds are mostly white and surprisingly - blacks (like wow, where do the blacks hide in the city ?) .

i-VTEC 04-19-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 7893245)
It's so far behind that it can't be seen from earth. Not a chance in hell, not in our lifetimes. That's like saying given time the Kings will be more popular then the Lakers, it's not happening.

Never say never.

LA Laker was crappy team before they got Paul/Odom. They even thought about trading Kobe haha.

Boston is another example, before Ray Allen, KG, they were on terrible, lost tons of games.

Vancouver Grizzlies was a :failed: team at that time due to not enough fan base. All I can say is the timing wasn't right at that time

Look at it now after they moved, with hiring the right GM and Coaches, they were able to change everything around with more fan base in Memphis. They beat San Antonio and almost beat OKC in last year's playoff

Another example would be the Seattle Sonic, now the OKC Thunder. Smart GM, lands 2 big superstars through draft.

Memphis/OKC even tho they can't compare to City like LA, to attract free agents. But with the Right Hiring of GM any team can be successful.

Btw, wouldn't you agree the Vancouver City > Memphis , Vancouver > OKC?

If Basketball would come here again, and more and more mainlander from China, HK, Taiwan immigrates here, I would like to see how many seats Canucks and XXX Basketball sells. Maybe Canucks will in the beginning, but I highly doubt it will stay that way

:fullofwin:

Soundy 04-19-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by d87c (Post 7893258)
Vancouver Grizzlies was a :failed: team at that time due to not enough fan base. All I can say is the timing wasn't right at that time.

It didn't help that the NBA had rules in place that limited new teams' abilities to draft well... or that they really had shit management. Expansion teams at that time were basically made to fail the first few years... don't know if it's any different now.

i-VTEC 04-19-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 7893254)
You sound like you think the NBA will work if all us chinese ppl gathered to support the team... That is just a small small small factor of the big picture

Im talking about the Chinese will be the biggest contributor to the team as the fan base. Will be the driving force. Yes, its small factor, but without that factor, everything could fall apart. The first step is also comes down if you have the fan base. If not, don't even think about it.

I doubt Lakers or the Boston can win Championship with no fan base at all haha

The Owner/GM won't even want to put the effort to do their job if no one support their decision.

pure.life 04-19-2012 05:03 PM

Vancouver would undoubtedly be known as "China's" team with all the investors here coming from the Mainland. Just think of Mariners and Ichiro. Everyone in Japan knows the Mariners because of Ichiro and half of their ads have some sort of Japanese in them. Likewise, if a NBA team do land themselves in Vancouver again and given that we have some decent Asian players, the team will be backed by not only fans in Vancouver but their origin - China.

Monetary support will not be an issue

But all these may just be wishful thinking :okay:

Btw, our logo was sick
http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/...82f5275f_m.jpg

i-VTEC 04-19-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7893264)
It didn't help that the NBA had rules in place that limited new teams' abilities to draft well... or that they really had shit management. Expansion teams at that time were basically made to fail the first few years... don't know if it's any different now.

Well, it's not like if Kings were to move to Vancouver, they have to build from scratch.

They already got good pieces. Tyreke Evans (even tho, this year was slump for him), Cousins, Jimmer, on coming Draft.

Now they really need is a good coach, and knows how to develop their potential. Also make good decision on getting the right pieces to the team.

Give a few more years, they could be a playoff time, 8th seat.

:woot2:

i-VTEC 04-19-2012 05:25 PM

Not all owner have their main goal is to win Championship, mostly they just want to make profit. Right not, Kings in Sac is not making any profit. However, moving to Vancouver, would definitely be a good investment. Moreover, if they were to get JLin, to play for them, I dont know if everyone will be talking about Canucks, or the Basketball team. Even if JLin turns out to be not as big as a star like that week of amazing performance, it would still be best advertising tool to make a lot of money like how Huston use Yao Ming, but Yao was a great player. All in all, as long as owners can make money, whether is through ticket sales or advertisement, owners will tend to move to that area.

Furthermore, look how JLin created a hugh buzz. He plays for New York, not even here in Vancouver. He affected a lot of countries.

Since when Canucks, were able to create that kind of buzz like how Lin, 1 person, did.

Also, have you seen Floyd Mayweather making fun of Canucks or ESPN =)

:nyan:


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