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unit 02-18-2011 05:43 PM

lol obama. what a joke. they definitely need ron paul for president in 2012, then they can focus on generating revenue by savings not small peanuts like this.

MG1 02-18-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 7310710)
Hey BNR.. I got this breast pump for sale..

Oh shit, I remember that thread......... sort of .............. link again, please, just for giggles.

Oh, nevermind. I found it and it's not pretty. Sorry, BNR, I remember defending you once, long ago in yet another post. I felt you were being ridiculed unfairly. My bad.

At least you're not like Bradford. You're a good sport.

dual 02-18-2011 10:45 PM

What pisses me off the most is Canada isn't doing anything about it. The Canadian government is too scared to do anything against the US.

StylinRed 02-18-2011 10:58 PM

CTV news commercial, Freight Tax for entering the US too? oO wtf "to pay for roads"

here's an article

http://www.vancouversun.com/business...122/story.html

Quote:

OTTAWA — Even as the prime minister criticized a proposed U.S. head-tax on Canadian air travellers, some cash-strapped American politicians are pushing for a levy on Canadian imports to pay for U.S. road works.

A bill recently introduced in Congress calls for a "freight fee" on international trade goods that could, if approved, cost Canadian and U.S. importers and exporters an estimated $420 million a year over 10 years.

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/busines...#ixzz1ENyi5ezU

Mr.Money 02-19-2011 03:37 AM

i just took note,obama doesn't give a fuck that Canadian soldiers are helping in the war or normal everyday canadian's so he goe's and start's taxing us just to visit & step on their soil,yet alone we spent a shit load of money over there for item's and food..

already fuckin it up,Get your Greedy Black Ass out the office,ya black George bush.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UUMgLVKg5B...2BW%2BBush.JPG

tegz 02-19-2011 04:46 AM

jewbama

Soundy 02-19-2011 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 7309639)
Basically, america is like a nightclub, and if youre from north america, you don't have to pay cover. if youre from anywhere else, covers $5.50.

......

that is the reason why obama is cutting the slack for canadians. we had a privilege, now he's taking it away.

Actually, cover for everywhere is is MORE than $5.50 - as TRDood pointed out, it's $10 for UK visitors... other places may be more or less.

So no, they're not "taking away" the privilege... they're just reducing it; we still get a rate. And it's not JUST Canadians - the same applies to Mexico and the Caribbean.

Graeme S 02-19-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 7309621)
When I read these types of complaints from canadians, it makes me wonder about perspective. what if we taxed all chinese tourists and put the money into making our transportation infrastructure (primarily streets and highways) more efficient? would you argue against a $5 fee from all chinese tourists if it meant that you could get to places faster and experience less traffic congestion?

If we were taxing all others and simply had an exemption for Chinese citizens, no, I probably wouldn't argue against it. But then, the situations are completely different.

Canadians travel to the US because it's often closer to go down south than it is to go across Canada.

Canadians travel to the US because it's often cheaper to buy goods that are also available here even when accounting for travel costs when spending less than a full paycheque's worth.

Canadians have had a history of working to open the border with the US in order to work up both economies; the Americans are less enthusiastic about it now because they no longer have the dollar-value advantage, and so Canadian labour is the same or even more than American Labour.


These things are all Canadian advantages, not American, so what reason would the US have to keep the exemption in place? And how many of those are true for China and Canada?

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 7310949)
CTV news commercial, Freight Tax for entering the US too? oO wtf "to pay for roads"

here's an article

http://www.vancouversun.com/business...122/story.html

The article says it's estimated to bring in $400 million over the next 10 years, yet it also says that based on the $1.2b in daily bilateral trade, it'd add about $112 million per day.

Anything that has such wildly ranging numbers seems to me more to be inflammatory rather than informational. Add to that it's the equivalent of a private member's bill, and we face very little threat from it.

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Originally Posted by dual (Post 7310944)
What pisses me off the most is Canada isn't doing anything about it. The Canadian government is too scared to do anything against the US.

Where does it say the Canadian government isn't doing anything about it? Making a giant fuss in public is always counterproductive; most likely there is something going on through diplomatic channels.

And even if there isn't, let's be realistic:
Those who are cheap often already fly out of the US (people flying within the US would not be subject to this tax, since it's a tax for entering the US on a plane)

If you're driving down to Blaine or Point Roberts to pick up shipping or go shopping, you won't get charged anything.

Remember the "Airport Improvement Fee" at YVR? It was more than the $5.50 that the US wants to charge flyers. Did you boycott YVR because of it?

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Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 7309732)
i dont care if you're impressed, but i feel like a god in this thread.

I am not impressed. At all. Much as you accuse others of, you are simply "fanning the flames" and trying to make peoples' opinions become more extreme simply to make them exaggerate their own opinions to make you trumpet your triumph.


Read my posts. They're filled with logic.

Quote:

just look at what's happening: people get thanked for stupid videos, strategic economic policies labeled as dick moves and bullying, selective reading which supports emotional reactions, points assigned for slightly mean posts directed at mods. nobody's trying to discern the logic behind a decision that a panel of experts constructed, yet the people that do (myself) are being told they're not worthy of a discussion.
You are not worthy of a discussion.

Some of the points you're making are.


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