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Old 02-27-2011, 04:58 AM   #26
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with teachers hating Christy Clark
I don't think *teachers* hate her as much as the *BCTF*. And really, the willingness to stand up to the unions gains her major props from me.

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and her involvement in the BC Rail scandal
You have proof of this that the RCMP didn't uncover BOTH times they investigated her?
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Here is all I want and expect:

1: Clean up the liberal image drastically. They are severely tainted.
2: Reduce the HST to 10%.
3: Cut spending to entitlement programs

and the most important

4: Keep the NDP out!

We can't afford them. Every time they get in power, they try to outspend in creating more entitlement programs, and I think North America wide we can see-it doesn't work!

Long term, I'd love to see a third party option that wasn't the green party-or, as I like to think of them, the NDP without the NDP's famed level of fiscal restraint.
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get rid of HST nao.
You do realize that the HST is good for the province, right?
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Let's see how she tackle the unemployment issue.
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I think she was the best candidate if the liberals want to stay in power for another four years. The other three candidates were too close to the HST faisco and Gordo. By saying she wasnt in power when it was implemented she can convice voters who are indecisive between NDP and Liberals, that she hasn't been apart of all the liberal decisions that were not thought highly off over the last couple years.
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You have proof of this that the RCMP didn't uncover BOTH times they investigated her?
i don't understand what you wrote?

but her brother is a lobbyist for BC Rail it came out in court that she provided information (although it wasn't explored) and the police did go to her home to interrogate her husband

you know we paint people guilty on here with far far less "coincidences" revolving around them
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What's not to understand?

Twice she was accused of "involvement" and even "complicity" with the whole affair... twice she was investigated... and twice she was cleared of any wrongdoing.

But apparently you have additional evidence. Why didn't you bring it to the police when you had the chance? Now it's too late, so put up or shut up.

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You do realize that the HST is good for the province, right?
good for province. not good for civilian
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What's not to understand?

Twice she was accused of "involvement" and even "complicity" with the whole affair... twice she was investigated... and twice she was cleared of any wrongdoing.
when was she investigated and cleared? all i read was the police said they weren't investigating her and when it was brought up in trial again it wasn't explored (investigated)
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=christy+clark+investigated+bc+rail

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An exhaustive political corruption investigation into the sale of BC Rail that included an unprecedented raid on the British Columbia legislature found no evidence of wrongdoing by any elected official, including a candidate in the ongoing Liberal leadership race, according to documents obtained by The Globe and Mail.

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The BC Rail scandal has hung over the Liberal party and its leadership race, particularly candidate Christy Clark, who was deputy premier at the time. During pre-trial hearings in the case, defence lawyers suggested Clark might have been a source of cabinet leaks to lobbyists.

But the newly released documents from the investigation show the RCMP found no evidence to support those suggestions, and instead indicate police were never suspicious of Clark.
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I would have voted for Diane Watts in a heart beat had she been willing to run.

Christie Clark was the only hope left of the liberal party getting re elected into power BUT the party themselves dislikes her... strongly. So I'm not sure how well she'll be able to govern (especially given we are in this situation currently because both parties cannibalized their leadership).

Further more, Christie Clark came in very Anti HST and Anti other party issues and has changed her stances considerably as the leadership race got closer. She's moved to a stance of changing HOW the party does business more than what the party business actually is. I am not comfortable with her weak stances on all this and seeming bi polar disorder on a couple issues.



Mind you the only viable alternative we have currently is the NDP.
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Keep in mind a LOT of people in the business sector disliked the HST and have gradually been changing their minds as the benefits to them become evident. Politicians are allowed to change their opinions, too.

And how many of those other "party issues" were based around Campbell in particular? It's quite likely that as she's actually gotten INVOLVED with the party, she's gained new perspective on a lot of them. It's a different view from the inside, than looking in from the outside.
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And we're gonna have another 4 years of NDP raping our province.
opposed to what, another 4 years of the liberals raping us?? Whats it fucking matter anyways, vote for the lesser evil because thats our only choice.

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i really wonder if there is an elected politician who is actually for the people and that does not have a hidden agenda???

I don't get it. If I were in power I would want to make sure I was informed about everything. I would want to try and make the education and health system better while being up to date on our financial situation. making cuts where there needs to be etc...
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i really wonder if there is an elected politician who is actually for the people and that does not have a hidden agenda???

I don't get it. If I were in power I would want to make sure I was informed about everything. I would want to try and make the education and health system better while being up to date on our financial situation. making cuts where there needs to be etc...
Contrary to what most people think, most people in politics actually do want to make a difference in their community.

If you want to get rich easily, you DON'T become a politician. The public sector pales significantly compared to the private sector.
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i really wonder if there is an elected politician who is actually for the people and that does not have a hidden agenda???

I don't get it. If I were in power I would want to make sure I was informed about everything. I would want to try and make the education and health system better while being up to date on our financial situation. making cuts where there needs to be etc...
Chuck Cadman was that way but unfortunaltey he's no longer with us.
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Edit* seriously though, what will she bring to the table?
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hey guys,

can someone clarify this for me...
In regards to "wings"

The conservatives are - Right wing
Liberals are - Left wing
Where do the NDP and the Green party fit into all of this?

are the NDP more left wing than the liberals or less, same with the green party? or are all of them pretty much left wing together?

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hey guys,

can someone clarify this for me...
In regards to "wings"

The conservatives are - Right wing
Liberals are - Left wing
Where do the NDP and the Green party fit into all of this?

are the NDP more left wing than the liberals or less, same with the green party? or are all of them pretty much left wing together?

thanks
Liberals are more moderate whereas NDP are left wing.
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i really wonder if there is an elected politician who is actually for the people and that does not have a hidden agenda???

I don't get it. If I were in power I would want to make sure I was informed about everything. I would want to try and make the education and health system better while being up to date on our financial situation. making cuts where there needs to be etc...

It is easy to say we want to improve the education and heath care system but in actuality it is difficult. There is limited amount of funding available and everyone wants a piece of the pie. There are an insane amount of bureaucratic hurdles that politicians have to cross to make any sort of significant change. Just look at the ridiculous amount of opposition against the HST which has been proven to be effective in other parts of Canada. People look at their bill and realize that they pay several % more and they flip without taking any time to consider the long-term implications.


Biggest problem (IMO) in any democratic society is the sheer amount of uneducated idiots that vote.
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hey guys,

can someone clarify this for me...
In regards to "wings"

The conservatives are - Right wing
Liberals are - Left wing
Where do the NDP and the Green party fit into all of this?

are the NDP more left wing than the liberals or less, same with the green party? or are all of them pretty much left wing together?

thanks
A small guide for reference:

Conservative - Centre-right
Liberal - Centre
NDP - Centre-left
Green - Left

United States is:

Democrat - Right
Republican - Right-er
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