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BNR32_Coupe · 03-02-2011, 04:46 PM

Have you ever held 4 powerful inches in the palm of your hand?

http://www.gsmarena.com/photo_of_iph...-news-2376.php

KuSouL · 03-02-2011, 04:51 PM

if that's what iPhone 5 looks like ... then I ain't waiting for it

TheNewGirl · 03-02-2011, 07:27 PM

Apple's product cycle is getting shorter and shorter and shorter. They're just suckering you all into buying new tech other year, and staggering the ipad and iphone upgrades so you have at least one up grade every 18 months.

ScizzMoney · 03-02-2011, 08:14 PM

don't they upgrade annually?

alex.w *// · 03-02-2011, 08:27 PM

needs a screen border.

looks out of place without one imo

hongy · 03-02-2011, 08:28 PM

I think she is trying to say that apple has an updated product every few months: ipod, macbook, iPad, Iphone, imac, w.e and is structured in such a way that you will constantly be updating/upgrading every 18 months

ilvtofu · 03-02-2011, 08:58 PM

IMO those photoshops are pretty weaksauce I doubt that's what the real one looks like

t8v6 · 03-02-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KuSouL

if that's what iPhone 5 looks like ... then I ain't waiting for it

thats what you say now...until everybody gets one when it comes out and you can't help but join the bandwagon as well

dinamix · 03-02-2011, 11:03 PM

It's too early for this thread. Get some credible sources b4 u post some fake ass Photoshop prototypes.. Just post in the iPhone 4 thread .

I might as well post a iPhone 7 thread
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LiquidTurbo · 03-03-2011, 06:24 AM

but it's *OFFICIAL*

!MiKrofT · 03-03-2011, 06:58 AM

This post is useless for now. That bezel on GSMArena is frigging crooked at the top. So fake.

hotjoint · 03-03-2011, 07:08 AM

damn that's ugly without the border if thats what its going to look like.

sonick · 03-03-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe

Have you ever held 4 powerful inches in the palm of your hand?

Yes, every night before bed!

Oleophobic · 03-03-2011, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

Apple's product cycle is getting shorter and shorter and shorter. They're just suckering you all into buying new tech other year, and staggering the ipad and iphone upgrades so you have at least one up grade every 18 months.

lol android is even worse

FN-2199 · 03-03-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sonick

Yes, every night before bed!

He said four, not two.

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dignatas · 03-03-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by T.T

lol android is even worse

words can't describe the fail for what you just said about the Android

Oleophobic · 03-03-2011, 09:48 PM

do explain

everything she said of apple is true for the android. Maybe not exactly identical but the idea is still the same. Instead of yearly upgrades to the ipad/iphone/ipod whatever (same product just next generation), you get either an upgrade to the same phone (galaxy s, galaxy s 2, nexus one, nexus S) or just new devices (another tab is coming out for instance) to choose from. It's really no different.

Android, on top of that, has the whole issue with fragmentation. At least when apple provides a software update it updates all devices at once.

That's why I said it's worse in this regard.

I use an android phone myself (switched over from the iphone 4) so it's not like I don't know what's going on in the android world.

Hehe · 03-03-2011, 10:19 PM

^

I'm not a pro dev, but from what I see, the fragmentation won't be a concern for app devs much longer. I think Google will figure some way out on later releases of android.

Fragmentation is really about software upgrade. A SE phone with 1.6 loaded from factory has difficulties getting on 2.x because the UI is heavily modified. SE has to come up with entirely new code for the same UI taking 2.x android's advantages. If you forgo the custom UI completely, upgrade become easy. (ala Nexus one/s)

The_Situation · 03-03-2011, 11:47 PM

If that's what the iphone 5 is gonna look like then the style of cases are all going to change.
No more cases that lift the screen as it would get in the way of the touchscreen edges. No more bumpers also

Oleophobic · 03-04-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hehe

^

I'm not a pro dev, but from what I see, the fragmentation won't be a concern for app devs much longer. I think Google will figure some way out on later releases of android.

Fragmentation is really about software upgrade. A SE phone with 1.6 loaded from factory has difficulties getting on 2.x because the UI is heavily modified. SE has to come up with entirely new code for the same UI taking 2.x android's advantages. If you forgo the custom UI completely, upgrade become easy. (ala Nexus one/s)

I've read articles on how fragmentation won't be a concern in the near future. But it still hasn't been solved completely. I'm also speaking from my experience of switching over to the SGS and not getting froyo for a long time (while other phones had it). Froyo custom roms weren't out until months after I got the phone and I had been keeping up with xda.

But yeah just speaking from experience. The whole android world is more complicated for sure. Complicated isn't necessarily a terrible thing though and I switched over to an android phone because the pros for me outweighed the cons.

TheNewGirl · 03-04-2011, 07:28 AM

Andriod isn't really the same because it's spread out over so many different hardware developers which both severs the brand loyalty tie and whole software culture that Apple has.

Apple is set up so that once you're on the apple ship you're looking at shelling out about $500-600 every year and a half, injecting a constant stream of funds into Apple, furthermore, the content controls on their devices force you to give more cash to Apple any time you want anything else - a song, a movie, an app. Jail broken phones/pads represent a fairly small percentage of apple products, and the culture of Apple has further enforced the mentality that returns the user to the app store and Apple products/upgrades.

From a psych stand point, the more financially and emotionally you're invested in a brand, the harder it is to break your tie with it. At this juncture as we have several people onto their 2nd phone, 3rd touch, 1st pad, 2nd macbook, Apple could release a block of dried shit and there would people people who would praise it for it's innovative nature and going back to the basics, because they're conditioned to do so.

Marketing genius.

As further releases come I expect you'll see more and more bugs at release time (much as the iphone 4 was) but bad press for that will be off set with a limit in supply which creates a demand despite it (again as we saw with the iphone 4).

I would suggest getting off the Apple ship now if you're on it, I think they've already done their best work and unless they make a great alteration to their OS, most upgrades from this point on will be largely cosmetic.

.Renn.Sport · 03-04-2011, 08:03 AM

Thanks Miss Obvious.

This practice is call a business. Apple is here to make money. From the sound of it, you don't even pay for your apps or music.

On the other hand, without apple creating the iPhone, there would be no android.
Apple is pretty much the only brand that actually bring innovation. A year ago, there wasn't even a tablet and look at how many brands are making a tablet today?

Oleophobic · 03-04-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

Andriod isn't really the same because it's spread out over so many different hardware developers which both severs the brand loyalty tie and whole software culture that Apple has.

Apple is set up so that once you're on the apple ship you're looking at shelling out about $500-600 every year and a half, injecting a constant stream of funds into Apple, furthermore, the content controls on their devices force you to give more cash to Apple any time you want anything else - a song, a movie, an app. Jail broken phones/pads represent a fairly small percentage of apple products, and the culture of Apple has further enforced the mentality that returns the user to the app store and Apple products/upgrades.

From a psych stand point, the more financially and emotionally you're invested in a brand, the harder it is to break your tie with it. At this juncture as we have several people onto their 2nd phone, 3rd touch, 1st pad, 2nd macbook, Apple could release a block of dried shit and there would people people who would praise it for it's innovative nature and going back to the basics, because they're conditioned to do so.

Marketing genius.

As further releases come I expect you'll see more and more bugs at release time (much as the iphone 4 was) but bad press for that will be off set with a limit in supply which creates a demand despite it (again as we saw with the iphone 4).

I would suggest getting off the Apple ship now if you're on it, I think they've already done their best work and unless they make a great alteration to their OS, most upgrades from this point on will be largely cosmetic.

Good point. I guess I was looking at it from the perspective of a typical user who's into technology, but at an upper beginner/intermediate level (does this even make sense LOL can't think of the right word). Brand loyalty is definitely a huge factor in the idevices being successful. 18 months for an upgrade isn't too unusual though.

Maybe I'm just inherently stubborn but to me, all I see is that there are new android phones and other devices out so often one is very quickly left behind in the technological dust. Of course, there isn't just one device for Google/Android, but many. So when it is time for that hardware upgrade, HTC fans will most likely upgrade to the next HTC android phone, while Samsung fans will most likely upgrade to the next Samsung phone, and others may try something new.

It's harder to see the consumer-brand connection in the android world but trust me it is there and will get worse in the coming years. Currently Android OS smartphones account for 29% of the U.S. market; iOS and RIM devices stand at 27% each. This whole 'suckering people in for upgrades' will get worse, only that for android there isn't one primary company doing the suckering (so I guess in that sense it is different). Anyway I did mention it is not exactly the same

Of course, to a lot of people in both worlds, none of the above apply since they are satisfied with their devices and don't feel to upgrade for at least two years.

!Yaminashi · 03-04-2011, 09:28 AM

I would imagine not having a border on the sides would make the phone more fragile and vulnerable to screen damage..

TOS'd · 03-04-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport

Thanks Miss Obvious.

This practice is call a business. Apple is here to make money. From the sound of it, you don't even pay for your apps or music.

On the other hand, without apple creating the iPhone, there would be no android.
Apple is pretty much the only brand that actually bring innovation. A year ago, there wasn't even a tablet and look at how many brands are making a tablet today?

Don't you own like 90% of Apple anyways?