Jobs with strict/boring/tempered boss

[haymura]

for those that work with a boss who's always on a constant pms and gets easily pissed off and throws hissy fits at the smallest things, is it worth dealing with it and keeping your job? pay is not too bad but sometimes i wonder if the pay is worth having to deal with the shit everyday.

[ecchiecchi]

more info plz.

I can relate lol

[haymura]

Originally Posted by ecchiecchi

more info plz.

I can relate lol

well my boss is a demanding type. He wants this, this and this done while your in the middle of doing something. If you dont do one, he freaks out, throws a tantrum and just starts blowing his top off. then at times he would just be the most quiet guy and never smiles. I try to relate or build a social relationship but he just brushes you off and is more focused on what he's doing. Its the tantrums and hissy fits that really make each of my day kinda crappy. The job itself i have no complains.

[TheNewGirl]

Depends.
If you have alternatives, quit. If you don't... well you have to suck it up.

Also what industry are you in? In some industries, bitchy bosses is more common than others.

As for not being social - well that's fine. He is your boss he doesn't have to be your friend. But yeah, adults throwing temper tantrums IMO is not acceptable.

[haymura]

I work in the automotive industry which i am well aware that this industry is not the most proper or "cleanest" in terms of attitude, and as i have stated i have no problem with the work itself. I honestly dont have a problem if the boss is not the sociable type as well but as you pointed out newgirl, throwing temper tantrums is not acceptable for me either. I can understand if a boss is stressed and throws tantrums at his own office or outside the business area but to throw one right in front of your employees and sometimes in front of customers is way too much to accept. But then I dont want to just quit unless its truly justifiable. I dont wanna come out as "your a sissy!, suck it up, you think you have it bad..." kind of employee.

[TheNewGirl]

I don't suppose where you work is large enough to have an HR department is it?

Unacceptable behavior by bosses is tricky and bringing them up can be difficult especially in a small business where it's going to be very clear who made the complaint.

As someone in HR I HIGHLY recommend documenting things, dates, times witnesses when it comes to any behavioral problem. It's easier than ever now, you can just pull out your phone and make a quick email to yourself like:

Mr. Boss threw a box at Jimmy and called him a idiot, ignoring him when he explained that the job took an extra hour because of a faulty thing-a-ma-jig. Jimmy, Bob and I all were present. April 10th, 3 pm

If his behavior escalates and ever leads to something that could be action on the part of the owners, or if he ever tries to dismiss someone wrongly in the midst of a tantrum or if you ever find yourself in a position where this actually leads to stress leave or a harassment case THIS will protect you and your fellow employees. If you ever do wind up in a position where you need to go over his head or speak to HR THIS will be extremely valuable as well.

When it comes to work place behavior problems always remember, document, document, document.

[haymura]

i wish it was that easy newgirl but unfortunately it is not. This is a small individually owned specialty shop and the boss is the owner. I dont wanna make a point to him regarding his attitude. i just want to know how people would deal with it. Is this something worth staying with or would people just get the eff out and find a job that treats employees better.

*on a side note, you mentioned that you are in HR. ive been looking into a career with HR. what did it take for you to get where you are now?

[TheNewGirl]

You should still document anything. Should you find yourself in a wrongful dismissal situation, especially if the irrational boss is the owner, this will protect you. It's very important that you do so and always better to be armed with more info than less in employment situations.

As for the side note:

I am a one person office, I do accounting/bookkeeping and payroll/HR fall under my mandate here. Previously I did some HR working in a non profit sector, at a place that helps persons with disabilities (mostly those who have been taken out of the workforce through injury), transition back into the workforce after their recovery, I actually got that job because of my background in psychology (sometimes having random skills pays off).

Both positions I got lucky and got to get into HR because it was part of a job I had other qualifications for. Eventually I would like to go back to school and get some certification in HR and do it full time as it's by FAR my favorite part of my job and always has been. You'll need to know what sort of HR you want to do though, there's several different aspects of it. If you're interested in payroll administration you can get into that through accounting/bookkeeping, if you're interested in hiring people and people management there's several programs.

Either way you're going to need conflict management skills, no criminal record, and an ability deal with confidential information and able to slog through employment code, union rules, and various other very dry documents and retain them all.

Being a good judge of character is helpful, as is a sturdy knowledge of personality theory (especially if you want to be involved in people management/hiring/recruiting), and the ability to fire someone tactfully. (If you're the kind of person who can't break up with someone, or have a high need for peer approval... this is not the job for you).

There is a wide array of jobs in HR, many want a BA in something (some will be specific, in people management/HR, many will take sociology, psychology, business as well if they have the right knowledge base), but some will take certification programs. It's a good idea to target a few specific jobs and then examine typical qualifications for them.

[ecchiecchi]

Definitely document the incidents.

What are you goals in life? Is there something you're after in this company that you are unable to get anywhere else?

Even though the money is good, thinking of all the unnecessary stress you incur while working in this company. From the looks of it, things aren't gonna be improving. So unless you have something to gain from this position, you should start looking elsewhere.

Work takes a lot of hours from your life. It's bad enough it takes a whole chunk of your life, so don't let that chunk become stressful else you'll starting hating life itself.

[haymura]

i have nothing to gain from this job. the only reason im here is becuz its a job. it pays for the bills and food on my table. Keep in mind i dont really have the proper education or credentials to apply at nicer positions and higher paying wages so that is also a reason why im staying here.

[ecchiecchi]

I see. What's your past work experience like? Definitely try looking and applying- you'll never know.

When hiring for new people, I usually look at attitude more than skills. Skills are easy to teach, with attitude- i'll pass.

I don't have credentials or education in the field i'm working in either. lol

[TheNewGirl]

Have you graduated high school? If not start working on doing so in night school or at Douglas College.

Also there's a few career assessment programs (I know Douglas hosts some, some other must too) that will help you assess your current skill set and then examines your aptitudes and helps you narrow down what careers are desirable and realistically obtainable.

If you have graduated high school and do have an idea of what field you'd like to be in, BCIT, Douglas, Langara, VCC and Kwantlin all have a lot of certification programs that are designed for people who are already working full time. It means giving up some of your free time and some of your free money but you can get started on doing something else.

And like ecchie says, you can also always apply. I've gone into a lot of jobs knowing only peripherally related skills before and ended up both learning a lot and doing pretty well.