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03-23-2011, 11:49 AM
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I don't drive for a living, but I no longer drink when I'm out if i have to drive. Since he drives for a living, he should have played it even more safe than myself IMO. My cousin is an eye surgeon and although he loves seafood, he won't touch crabs or lobsters at resturaunts in fear of cutting up his hands. Posted via RS Mobile | 
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03-23-2011, 06:08 PM
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03-23-2011, 06:20 PM
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The crime simply does not fit the punishment. The law does not state that he should loose his career ontop all the expensive fines. Im sure everyone here has done something against the law at one point or another, imagine loosing your career over it. All I see here is one sided posts of he deserves it with out knowing all the details.
There is obviously a flaw in the whole imobolizer system if the city isnt making it possible to install it on the work vehichles. There should be another method for people who work.
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03-23-2011, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Elements604 The crime simply does not fit the punishment. The law does not state that he should loose his career ontop all the expensive fines. Im sure everyone here has done something against the law at one point or another, imagine loosing your career over it. All I see here is one sided posts of he deserves it with out knowing all the details.
There is obviously a flaw in the whole imobolizer system if the city isnt making it possible to install it on the work vehichles. There should be another method for people who work. | Are you 12 or just trolling?
There is no flaw with the BAC immobilizer system. They won't put it on the trucks because A: it's expensive, and B: it sends the message that they tolerate drinking and driving!
The law states that you lose your license for 3 months if you drink and drive.
If your job depends on you driver's license, don't drink and drive.
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03-23-2011, 07:27 PM
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The law doesn't state that you should lose your career if you murder someone, either, but guess what?
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03-23-2011, 07:35 PM
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what if he paid to have all the trucks outfitted with the blow me device?? I kind of doubt that they would need to put the device on EVERY truck. In most of my experience most workers who drive usually drive the same truck from day to day.
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03-23-2011, 07:46 PM
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Well, this is from the Yukon government's website ( http://www.community.gov.yk.ca/dcb/aiip_facts.html#7), but I would expect BC to similar: Quote: |
The interlock devices are leased from the service provider who sets the fees. The service provider charges $200 for the installation/de-installation of the device. In addition, there is a $125 monthly fee for monitoring and monthly service of the device.
| So let's see... 40 trucks, $200 each... that's $8,000 to install them, and $5,000 *per month* to monitor and maintain. He'd be further ahead just to quit.
And legally, yes, I think they would insist it be on every vehicle that he MIGHT need to drive in his employment.
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03-23-2011, 08:42 PM
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If Charlie Sheen can't fuck hookers, snort coke and call his boss an idiot and keep his job...then there's no way this guy should be able to drive drunk and keep his.
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03-23-2011, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy Well, this is from the Yukon government's website ( http://www.community.gov.yk.ca/dcb/aiip_facts.html#7), but I would expect BC to similar:
So let's see... 40 trucks, $200 each... that's $8,000 to install them, and $5,000 *per month* to monitor and maintain. He'd be further ahead just to quit.
And legally, yes, I think they would insist it be on every vehicle that he MIGHT need to drive in his employment. | you forgot the cost to train all the employees of the trucks to learn how to blow into one of those things, i've had to do it to a customers car to get it to start once, took me approx 30min to get the thing to work properly
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03-24-2011, 01:55 AM
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The problem, is the bad law. Guilty until proven innocent. We give the police too much power on selective enforcement.
Of course the man would go to the press, why not, it's all about political lobbying. Those with the means brainwash and campaign for their own interests.
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03-24-2011, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by observer The problem, is the bad law. Guilty until proven innocent. We give the police too much power on selective enforcement. | Er... there's not much to prove here: he was required to provide a breath sample, and he didn't. What's the argument? "Your honour, I actually DID blow into the breathalyzer and the cop is mistaken"? Quote: |
Of course the man would go to the press, why not, it's all about political lobbying. Those with the means brainwash and campaign for their own interests.
| Uh... wat?
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03-24-2011, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by adambomb I'm the type who always thinks outside the box. 
Does anybody know WHY (maybe stewie) he would go to the media about his situation? He has zero support from the public, his union agrees that he was wrong and the city is justified in not wanting to install interlock devices. What sort of sympathy was the guy expecting for being caught drinking and driving? What sort of help can the media provide?
The story is probably true but it seems kind of fishy. Who would publicly expose their situation knowing they would be slandered? He could get transfered within the city and people would never know about. Tons of people have been caught driving and driving over the years and have lost their jobs. Why does this story get coverage? |
It got coverage because the city was being forced to install the interlocks at taxpayer expense because of his choice to drink and drive...because the unions got involved.....and maybe because water cooler talk about how somebody could "just not get it" and expect others to cover up bad choices? Just a guess. The fact that we are talking about something as straightforward as "don't drink and drive, get caught and whine when you do"
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03-24-2011, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by observer The problem, is the bad law. Guilty until proven innocent.
Not exactly, Police have a duty to investigate impaired drivers...even the supreme court said our rights could be over ruled because of the danger they cause. This is not about a .05 or .08 reading causing him to loose an impounded vehicle...this is about him refusing to provide a sample. . Long before Police had roadside screening devices they investigated impaired drivers. They need grounds to do so. When you refused to go back and provide a breathalizer sample, you were charged with refusal to provide a sample. I was doing this back in the early 1980s. Nothing new.
We give the police too much power on selective enforcement.
This is nothing to do with selective enforcement unless you call removing impaired drivers from the roads selective enforcement? ...or looking into cars to see if they are wearing their seatbelts, or using Radar or Laser to monitor their speeds.[
Of course the man would go to the press, why not, it's all about political lobbying. Those with the means brainwash and campaign for their own interests. | I agree with you on that. He doesn't accept his punishment.
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03-24-2011, 06:45 PM
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03-24-2011, 08:26 PM
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I wish they could start taking a stronger stance against the police like this.
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03-24-2011, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayhall what if he paid to have all the trucks outfitted with the blow me device?? I kind of doubt that they would need to put the device on EVERY truck. In most of my experience most workers who drive usually drive the same truck from day to day. | city works differently, theres about 30 garbage trucks, hes not assigned to one specific truck, every day hes on a different one.
im pretty sure the only reason ken went to the papers with this is because a few years ago a foreman ended up needing one of the blow devices in a vehicle and the city rigged his truck with one.
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03-24-2011, 08:58 PM
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03-24-2011, 09:48 PM
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03-26-2011, 01:15 PM
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I have no sympathy for this individual.
If your job is based on your license, why bother to risk it?
If I lose my license, I lose my job....Not worth the one night of drinking.
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03-26-2011, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OTG-ZR2 I have no sympathy for this individual.
If your job is based on your license, why bother to risk it?
If I lose my license, I lose my job....Not worth the one night of drinking. | Exactly. I work in a call center. If I lose my license, I bus to work. If I lived in a country where the consequence for theft is losing your hand, I probably wouldn't steal. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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03-26-2011, 02:24 PM
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03-27-2011, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by OTG-ZR2 If I lose my license, I lose my job....Not worth the one night of drinking. | a night of drinking is ace in my books, just dont drive home after and everyone is happy. The closest bar to my house is $6.70 cents away.
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03-28-2011, 06:59 AM
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03-28-2011, 11:11 AM
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03-28-2011, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stewie city works differently, theres about 30 garbage trucks, hes not assigned to one specific truck, every day hes on a different one.
im pretty sure the only reason ken went to the papers with this is because a few years ago a foreman ended up needing one of the blow devices in a vehicle and the city rigged his truck with one. | yeah, the foremen is HARDER to replace/ train than a simple garbage truck driver that pretty much anyone with the proper license can operate, and they switch trucks. Unlike the foremen that usually gets to take his truck home.
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